[amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT

[k8kfj]

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Kiehner 
To: Kent Frazier 
Cc: amsat-bb 
Sent: Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:32 am
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT


   > I personally use a recorder to record my contacts via the birds.
   > I have two hands, one holding the antenna, the other the speaker mic,
   > I'd need two more to hold pen and paper

As I recall, I used a "Y" adapter coming out of the headphone jack.
One side to my earphones, the other to my digital recorder.  Made
a quick note of my start and end of pass times.  I later logged my
contacts from the recording based on how far into the pass our contact
took place.


73, Gary  -K8KFJ-
West Virginia
Sat VUCC #125


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[amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT

[Andrew Glasbrenner]

-Original Message-
>From: Kent Frazier 
>Sent: Nov 9, 2010 10:40 AM
>To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT
>
>Would this apply to using a digital voice recorder also, in your opinion?
>

Of course not, no more than writing it down would, but I think you know that. 

73, Drew KO4MA

PS If you want to avoid competing with others on satellite, may I suggest the 
transponder satellites? Hope to hear you on soon.


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[amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT

[Jeremy Kiehner]

I personally use a recorder to record my contacts via the birds. I have two 
hands, one holding the antenna, the other the speaker mic, I'd need two more to 
hold pen and paper. I'd think so long as the QSL is two way confirmed there's 
no harm. Regardless how it's logged.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Kent Frazier  wrote:

> Would this apply to using a digital voice recorder also, in your opinion?
> 
> I operate handheld (using an Icom w32a and an Elk antenna) I'm unable to
> write down ANY information during a contact.
> I'd hate to think I'm somehow disqualified from an award because I listened
> to my recordings to log my contacts after the pass is over.
> 
> The OP only missed the call by one character, and they sound similar. I'm
> not sure what equipment both parties were using, but I remember having a
> very hard time making out calls with my gear. Especially on AO-51 pileups.
> One of the reasons I quit for awhile is I got tired of competing with the
> "big guns".
> 
> I've been off the air for about a year now. I'm looking forward to getting
> back on the birds.
> 
> Kent, K5KNT
> 
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 07:45, Andrew Glasbrenner > wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-
>>> From: n...@lavabit.com
>>> Sent: Nov 9, 2010 8:32 AM
>>> To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT
>>> 
>>> I may be hated for this but I have to ask, if you make a contact and you
>>> get the call wrong so you would not get a QSL card because you can't mail
>>> the right person is it really fair to use another medium to search out the
>>> correct call in order to secure the contact for award reasons?  I always
>>> thought the QSO had to be a successful exchange of at least the call signs
>>> over the air to count as a contact.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>> 
>>> Jerry
>>> N0JY
>>> 
>> 
>> In my opinion you are 100% correct. Make a second contact to make it legit.
>> If you just want to find the right call for your own reasons or to arrange
>> another contact, cool. If you want to use the busted QSO for an award, not
>> cool.
>> 
>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>> 
>> 
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[amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT

[Kent Frazier]

Would this apply to using a digital voice recorder also, in your opinion?

I operate handheld (using an Icom w32a and an Elk antenna) I'm unable to
write down ANY information during a contact.
I'd hate to think I'm somehow disqualified from an award because I listened
to my recordings to log my contacts after the pass is over.

The OP only missed the call by one character, and they sound similar. I'm
not sure what equipment both parties were using, but I remember having a
very hard time making out calls with my gear. Especially on AO-51 pileups.
One of the reasons I quit for awhile is I got tired of competing with the
"big guns".

I've been off the air for about a year now. I'm looking forward to getting
back on the birds.

Kent, K5KNT

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 07:45, Andrew Glasbrenner  wrote:

>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: n...@lavabit.com
> >Sent: Nov 9, 2010 8:32 AM
> >To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> >Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT
> >
> >I may be hated for this but I have to ask, if you make a contact and you
> >get the call wrong so you would not get a QSL card because you can't mail
> >the right person is it really fair to use another medium to search out the
> >correct call in order to secure the contact for award reasons?  I always
> >thought the QSO had to be a successful exchange of at least the call signs
> >over the air to count as a contact.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
> >
> >Jerry
> >N0JY
> >
>
> In my opinion you are 100% correct. Make a second contact to make it legit.
> If you just want to find the right call for your own reasons or to arrange
> another contact, cool. If you want to use the busted QSO for an award, not
> cool.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
>
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[amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT

[Rick Tejera]

I'm reasonably certain I'll work him again, so there shouldn't be any
scandal in my VUCC.

And with that I will now withdraw from this thread.

Clear Skies

Rick Tejera
Editor SACnews,
Public Outreach Coordinator
Saguaro Astronomy Club
Phoenix, Arizona
www.saguaroastro.org
saguaroas...@cox.net 
K7TEJ, AMSAT 38452


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From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of n...@lavabit.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 6:32
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT

I may be hated for this but I have to ask, if you make a contact and you
get the call wrong so you would not get a QSL card because you can't mail
the right person is it really fair to use another medium to search out the
correct call in order to secure the contact for award reasons?  I always
thought the QSO had to be a successful exchange of at least the call signs
over the air to count as a contact.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Jerry
N0JY

> Hey! Rick you contacted famous Loren K7CWQ in CN94 from Oregon!
>
> 73's Larry KI6YAA
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Rick Tejera  wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> Worked AO51 this evening, a pretty quiet pass, had some time to actually
>> talk! Myself & Dave Kb5WIA  work a station with call K7TWQ in CN94. When
>> I
>> went to log him in I could not find his call in any of the usual DB's,
>> Dave
>> also could not find him. We both tried several variations on the theme
>> but
>> no soap. If you're out there and we got your call wrong or if anyone
>> knows
>> who we worked, please let us know. CN94 is a new grid for me, I'd like
>> to
>> get it in the book.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Clear Skies
>>
>> Rick Tejera
>> Editor SACnews,
>> Public Outreach Coordinator
>> Saguaro Astronomy Club
>> Phoenix, Arizona
>> www.saguaroastro.org <http://www.saguaroastro.org/>
>> saguaroas...@cox.net
>> K7TEJ, AMSAT 38452



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[amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT

[Larry Teran]

You are completely right Jerry, an exchange of call signs and acknowledge from
both stations is needed for a successful QSO, but we need to keep in mind
that satellite contacts are performed on tight time period and the signals
from the birds are not all the time clear enough to copy 100%, as you
get experience working on the sats you familiarize with most of the every
day operators and then you began relaying on equipment like a recorder that
help you analyze the audio and if you were not able to copy the call at the
time you contacted that station you probably will have a better reception of
that station on another QSO going on, but we all were inexperienced
operators once and missed a couple of call because of that reason, a little
help is always of great support and we all can give new station the
opportunity to enjoy this wonderful hobby.

73's Larry KI6YAA

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 5:32 AM,  wrote:

> I may be hated for this but I have to ask, if you make a contact and you
> get the call wrong so you would not get a QSL card because you can't mail
> the right person is it really fair to use another medium to search out the
> correct call in order to secure the contact for award reasons?  I always
> thought the QSO had to be a successful exchange of at least the call signs
> over the air to count as a contact.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> Jerry
> N0JY
>
> > Hey! Rick you contacted famous Loren K7CWQ in CN94 from Oregon!
> >
> > 73's Larry KI6YAA
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Rick Tejera 
> wrote:
> >
> >> All,
> >>
> >> Worked AO51 this evening, a pretty quiet pass, had some time to actually
> >> talk! Myself & Dave Kb5WIA  work a station with call K7TWQ in CN94. When
> >> I
> >> went to log him in I could not find his call in any of the usual DB's,
> >> Dave
> >> also could not find him. We both tried several variations on the theme
> >> but
> >> no soap. If you're out there and we got your call wrong or if anyone
> >> knows
> >> who we worked, please let us know. CN94 is a new grid for me, I'd like
> >> to
> >> get it in the book.
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Clear Skies
> >>
> >> Rick Tejera
> >> Editor SACnews,
> >> Public Outreach Coordinator
> >> Saguaro Astronomy Club
> >> Phoenix, Arizona
> >> www.saguaroastro.org 
> >> saguaroas...@cox.net
> >> K7TEJ, AMSAT 38452
>
>
>
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[amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT

[Andrew Glasbrenner]

-Original Message-
>From: n...@lavabit.com
>Sent: Nov 9, 2010 8:32 AM
>To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT
>
>I may be hated for this but I have to ask, if you make a contact and you
>get the call wrong so you would not get a QSL card because you can't mail
>the right person is it really fair to use another medium to search out the
>correct call in order to secure the contact for award reasons?  I always
>thought the QSO had to be a successful exchange of at least the call signs
>over the air to count as a contact.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
>Jerry
>N0JY
>

In my opinion you are 100% correct. Make a second contact to make it legit. If 
you just want to find the right call for your own reasons or to arrange another 
contact, cool. If you want to use the busted QSO for an award, not cool.

73, Drew KO4MA


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[amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT

[n0jy]

I may be hated for this but I have to ask, if you make a contact and you
get the call wrong so you would not get a QSL card because you can't mail
the right person is it really fair to use another medium to search out the
correct call in order to secure the contact for award reasons?  I always
thought the QSO had to be a successful exchange of at least the call signs
over the air to count as a contact.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Jerry
N0JY

> Hey! Rick you contacted famous Loren K7CWQ in CN94 from Oregon!
>
> 73's Larry KI6YAA
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Rick Tejera  wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> Worked AO51 this evening, a pretty quiet pass, had some time to actually
>> talk! Myself & Dave Kb5WIA  work a station with call K7TWQ in CN94. When
>> I
>> went to log him in I could not find his call in any of the usual DB's,
>> Dave
>> also could not find him. We both tried several variations on the theme
>> but
>> no soap. If you're out there and we got your call wrong or if anyone
>> knows
>> who we worked, please let us know. CN94 is a new grid for me, I'd like
>> to
>> get it in the book.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Clear Skies
>>
>> Rick Tejera
>> Editor SACnews,
>> Public Outreach Coordinator
>> Saguaro Astronomy Club
>> Phoenix, Arizona
>> www.saguaroastro.org 
>> saguaroas...@cox.net
>> K7TEJ, AMSAT 38452



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[amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT

[Rick Tejera]

3 for K7CWQ. Thank for the replies.

Sent from my iPod
Rick Tejera
Editor, SACnews
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.saguaroastro.org
K7TEJ

On Nov 9, 2010, at 2:19, Larry Teran  wrote:

> Hey! Rick you contacted famous Loren K7CWQ in CN94 from Oregon!
> 
> 73's Larry KI6YAA
> 
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Rick Tejera  wrote:
> All,
> 
> Worked AO51 this evening, a pretty quiet pass, had some time to actually
> talk! Myself & Dave Kb5WIA  work a station with call K7TWQ in CN94. When I
> went to log him in I could not find his call in any of the usual DB's, Dave
> also could not find him. We both tried several variations on the theme but
> no soap. If you're out there and we got your call wrong or if anyone knows
> who we worked, please let us know. CN94 is a new grid for me, I'd like to
> get it in the book.
> 
> 73
> 
> Clear Skies
> 
> Rick Tejera
> Editor SACnews,
> Public Outreach Coordinator
> Saguaro Astronomy Club
> Phoenix, Arizona
> www.saguaroastro.org 
> saguaroas...@cox.net
> K7TEJ, AMSAT 38452
> 
> 
> 
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[amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT

[Larry Teran]

Hey! Rick you contacted famous Loren K7CWQ in CN94 from Oregon!

73's Larry KI6YAA

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Rick Tejera  wrote:

> All,
>
> Worked AO51 this evening, a pretty quiet pass, had some time to actually
> talk! Myself & Dave Kb5WIA  work a station with call K7TWQ in CN94. When I
> went to log him in I could not find his call in any of the usual DB's, Dave
> also could not find him. We both tried several variations on the theme but
> no soap. If you're out there and we got your call wrong or if anyone knows
> who we worked, please let us know. CN94 is a new grid for me, I'd like to
> get it in the book.
>
> 73
>
> Clear Skies
>
> Rick Tejera
> Editor SACnews,
> Public Outreach Coordinator
> Saguaro Astronomy Club
> Phoenix, Arizona
> www.saguaroastro.org 
> saguaroas...@cox.net
> K7TEJ, AMSAT 38452
>
>
>
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