[amsat-bb] Re: Fwd: Launch your own satellite for only eight grand

2009-08-06 Thread Richard Limebear
VE4YZ wrote:

  They need a track record. They need a launch site.
  Googling Neptune 30, Tubesat, Spaceport Tonga and anything else on
  their web site reminds me of a circular reference in Excel.
  Colour me suspicious.

I'm surprised no-one else has done the math on this. The website says 
they'll launch 30 tubesats on a flight. 30 x eight grand comes out just 
under a quarter million US dollars - and they say this will cover *all* 
associated services as well as the launch. I find it rather hard to 
believe that even the launch vehicle would only cost US$240K per flight.

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[amsat-bb] Re: Fwd: Launch your own satellite for only eight grand

2009-08-05 Thread Mark Spencer

The PDF on their web site also mentions at 420 to 480 mhz radio option with a 
500 mw output which might be somewhat more usefull (although the voltage 
requirements of this radio seem different than the sattelite can provide ?)

http://interorbital.com/Downloads/TubeSat%20Sales%20Brochure%20Publish%201.0.pdf



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From: W4ART Arthur Feller afel...@ieee.org
To: Mark Thompson wb9qzb_gro...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 4:43:56 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fwd: Launch your own satellite for only eight grand

Hi, Mark,

The 902-928 MHz is not available for space stations in any radio  
service.  2400 to 2450 MHz is available to the amateur-satellite  
service.  However, many of the example projects appear unrelated to  
radio or may be commercial in nature, so they may not qualify for the  
amateur-satellite service.

Wi-Fi equipment operates at very low power and relies upon provisions  
in the radio regulations allowing administrations to use frequencies  
for any purpose, provided they don't cause interference to stations  
operating in accordance with the Table of Frequency Allocations.  Low  
power in this band fits the bill very nicely for short range use; not  
for space operations.  Timing issues may also apply.

Some good frequency planning is in order.

73, art.
W4ART  Arlington, VA

On 5-Aug-2009, at 3:52 PM, Mark Thompson wrote:


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 Subject: [BARS] $8000 to launch a satellite?


 Here's an interesting article from The Register:

 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/04/tube_sat/

 Launch your own satellite for only eight grand
 Prospective world domination candidates apply here
 By Bill Ray • Get more from this author
 Posted in Telecoms, 4th August 2009 14:59 GMT
 Interorbital Systems is offering your own orbiting satellite for  
 only $8,000, including launch, though evil geniuses might balk at  
 the expected 2-week lifespan before a fiery re-entry.

 The plan is to launch 32 of the diminutive TubeSats into low earth  
 orbit, around 310Km up, using a single Neptune 30 launcher (under  
 development by=2 0Interorbital). The Neptune 30 will time release  
 the TubeSats into orbits that decay within a few weeks, after which  
 they'll burn up re-entering the Earth's atmosphere.

 The cost of each one is $8,000, though you'll have to pay up front  
 to guarantee a launch slot, and put the satellite together yourself  
 from the supplied kit. Stil, at least Interorbital Systems accepts  
 PayPal.

 Fitting a doomsday machine into the 13.5cm long TubeSat, which is  
 only 8.7cm wide, will challenge plans for world domination, but that  
 will be where the genius comes into play.

 The company suggests you might use your TubeSat for everything from  
 Earth-from-space video imaging to private e-mail or On-orbit  
 advertising, though we're not sure what the audience figures would  
 be for the latter. More realistically, buyers might like to bounce  
 amateur radio signals off their own bird, or try experiments within  
 orbital conditions.

 The radio aboard the TubeSat will operate at 902-928MHz or  
 2.4-2.4835GHz, the latter being ideal for Wi-Fi, as well as covering  
 the bands allocated for amateur satellite operations - allowing Hams  
 to fly even if pigs can't. Full specifications are available from  
 Interorbital (pdf).

 Not that professionals will be allowed to buy TubeSats: The listed  
 price is not valid for military, governmental, or large corporate  
 entities. Members of these organizations should contact Interorbital  
 Systems if interested in purchasing a TubeSat.

 Interorbital Systems has some form in space operations. It was a  
 competitor in the X-Prize, and has entered Google's Lunar X-Prize to  
 retrieve a bit of the moon. More practically, the company has been  
 testing engines in the Mojave desert, but the TubeSat launches  
 planned for next year will be the first time the company has flown a  
 bird, even a small one. ®



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