[amsat-bb] Re: Lessons I learned the hard way

2014-05-12 Thread Glen Zook
A number of companies, in which upper management have been engineers, suffer 
from the fact that most engineers are not completely satisfied when products 
are released.

When I went to work for the Collins Radio Company, right out of college at the 
new corporate headquarters in Richardson, Texas, Art Collins had a very bad 
habit of coming up with minor production changes to equipment being 
manufactured and insisting that these changes be made before the equipment 
shipped to the customer.  Then, before all those changes had been made, he 
would come up with still other changes.  This caused no equipment being shipped 
and, therefore, no income to the company.

To get around Art's changes, every division had an Art project to keep him 
occupied and away from equipment that was really intended to ship to customers. 
 The Art project items were never intended to ship.  But, by keeping him away 
from the real production, equipment was being shipped and there was income to 
the company.


 
Glen, K9STH


Website:  http://k9sth.com
On Monday, May 12, 2014 11:57 AM, Thomas Doyle tomdoyle1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
When I was a young engineer working for Motorola Communication Division in
Chicago I recall a meeting where the engineers met with upper level
management on the release to production of a UHF mobile radio. Each
engineer had some additional tests they wanted to perform before it was
released to production and out of our hands. After listening to our
concerns for a fairly long time he said - If it was up to you engineers we
would never release anything to production and we would have nothing to
sell and we would not have any money to pay you with. Never forgot that.

Any engineer worthy of his salt is never 100% sure about anything that is
going into an environment they can not control. The problem comes in when
there is suddenly more time to do additional testing and the time is used
to try out fun exciting new things rather than the much less
interesting and often boring testing and refining the existing product. I
do hope the hard working FOX crew takes advantage of the time they have
been given to make sure everything is right with the good work they have
done rather than trying out some new fun interesting things that could wind
up flying without adequate testing. We need something that works not
necessarily the latest trendy technology gadget. I have seen this happen
with unpleasant results in other non-AMSAT projects. In any event thanks to
the Fox crew for their hard work.

W9KE Tom Doyle
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[amsat-bb] Re: Lessons I learned the hard way

2014-05-12 Thread Ted
Good story, Glen

...the days when American industry actually 'made things'

Must have been a fun place to work

73, Ted
K7TRK

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Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 3:49 PM
To: Thomas Doyle; AMSAT-BB@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Lessons I learned the hard way

A number of companies, in which upper management have been engineers, suffer
from the fact that most engineers are not completely satisfied when products
are released.

When I went to work for the Collins Radio Company, right out of college at
the new corporate headquarters in Richardson, Texas, Art Collins had a
very bad habit of coming up with minor production changes to equipment being
manufactured and insisting that these changes be made before the equipment
shipped to the customer.  Then, before all those changes had been made, he
would come up with still other changes.  This caused no equipment being
shipped and, therefore, no income to the company.

To get around Art's changes, every division had an Art project to keep him
occupied and away from equipment that was really intended to ship to
customers.  The Art project items were never intended to ship.  But, by
keeping him away from the real production, equipment was being shipped and
there was income to the company.


 
Glen, K9STH


Website:  http://k9sth.com
On Monday, May 12, 2014 11:57 AM, Thomas Doyle tomdoyle1...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
When I was a young engineer working for Motorola Communication Division in
Chicago I recall a meeting where the engineers met with upper level
management on the release to production of a UHF mobile radio. Each engineer
had some additional tests they wanted to perform before it was released to
production and out of our hands. After listening to our concerns for a
fairly long time he said - If it was up to you engineers we would never
release anything to production and we would have nothing to sell and we
would not have any money to pay you with. Never forgot that.

Any engineer worthy of his salt is never 100% sure about anything that is
going into an environment they can not control. The problem comes in when
there is suddenly more time to do additional testing and the time is used to
try out fun exciting new things rather than the much less interesting and
often boring testing and refining the existing product. I do hope the hard
working FOX crew takes advantage of the time they have been given to make
sure everything is right with the good work they have done rather than
trying out some new fun interesting things that could wind up flying without
adequate testing. We need something that works not necessarily the latest
trendy technology gadget. I have seen this happen with unpleasant results in
other non-AMSAT projects. In any event thanks to the Fox crew for their hard
work.

W9KE Tom Doyle
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