[amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu 847 vs. Icom 910
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:00:41 pm zach hillerson wrote: I am finally in the market for a base station radio for satellites. I should mention that I am also planning to install a wire dipole in the backyard for HF work, but convenience shouldn't be the reason to buy/not to buy a radio. It seems that the Icom 910 and Yaesu 847 are the two main transceivers in base use for satellites. I know some folks are using the Kenwood TS2000, bu i t I understand thatit has a birdie that makes operation on a couple FM satellites challenging. I am hoping to work both the linear and fm birds with this transceiver. Is there a BB favorite? Have I just opened up a bad can of worms? I just want to make sure that I am purchasing the proper parts the first time Hello Zach, I've owned an FT-847 for the past eleven years and although it has served me well (mostly satellite use but some HF operation as well) it has several annoying birdies which are most noticeable the 144 MHz band. One particularly annoying S7 birdie appears around 145.9 MHz which makes communication via VO-52 difficult at times. Other that that it has been a very reliable radio. -- Regards, Phil ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu 847 vs. Icom 910
I have a 910, a friend has an 847. We typically use both at Field Day. I think the 910 is a better satellite radio. Good luck! 73, Jim wb4...@amsat.org On 2/16/2011 12:46 AM, Phil wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:00:41 pm zach hillerson wrote: I am finally in the market for a base station radio for satellites. I should mention that I am also planning to install a wire dipole in the backyard for HF work, but convenience shouldn't be the reason to buy/not to buy a radio. It seems that the Icom 910 and Yaesu 847 are the two main transceivers in base use for satellites. I know some folks are using the Kenwood TS2000, bu i t I understand thatit has a birdie that makes operation on a couple FM satellites challenging. I am hoping to work both the linear and fm birds with this transceiver. Is there a BB favorite? Have I just opened up a bad can of worms? I just want to make sure that I am purchasing the proper parts the first time Hello Zach, I've owned an FT-847 for the past eleven years and although it has served me well (mostly satellite use but some HF operation as well) it has several annoying birdies which are most noticeable the 144 MHz band. One particularly annoying S7 birdie appears around 145.9 MHz which makes communication via VO-52 difficult at times. Other that that it has been a very reliable radio. ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu 847 vs. Icom 910
Icom is coming out with a new hf/sat rig the IC-9100. It looks to be a bit pricy at around $3000 or so, but it will be newer technology. I sold my 910 to make room for one on my desk :) I did keep my trusty 14 year old 847 I purchased new. I would recommend the 847 over the 910, and if you have the means the 9100 would be my choice... 73 Jeff kb2m -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of zach hillerson Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 21:01 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu 847 vs. Icom 910 I am finally in the market for a base station radio for satellites. I should mention that I am also planning to install a wire dipole in the backyard for HF work, but convenience shouldn't be the reason to buy/not to buy a radio. It seems that the Icom 910 and Yaesu 847 are the two main transceivers in base use for satellites. I know some folks are using the Kenwood TS2000, bu i t I understand thatit has a birdie that makes operation on a couple FM satellites challenging. I am hoping to work both the linear and fm birds with this transceiver. Is there a BB favorite? Have I just opened up a bad can of worms? I just want to make sure that I am purchasing the proper parts the first time Thanks, Zach N4ERZ ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu 847 vs. Icom 910
At long last, the IC-9100 received FCC approval last week, so it may finally be hitting the market. I talked to an ICOM rep at the Orlando hamfest on Saturday, and she said they still do not have any in the USA. There are photos on the ICOM website. Still no official word on price, but it won't be cheap, perhaps even more than the $3000 mentioned by Jeff (I've heard speculation close to $4000). I have 2 FT-847s and like them, especially in Europe where I can use it on 70mhz (4 meters). Cons: only 50w out on 2 meters, problematic volume control and power switch, no 1296 mhz option, no internal antenna tuner, no VOX. The TS-2000 has 100w on 2 meters, a 1296 mhz option, VOX, and an HF/50 mhz antenna tuner, but it does have the incurable birdie that inhibits reception on AO-27 and SO-50. Kenwood apparently has no interest in providing a fix. The IC-910 is supposedly the best VHF/UHF radio of the group, but it does not do HF or 6 meters. These are the only current options for a first class all-in-one setup for linear satellites. They are similar in price on the used market, about $900-$1200. Many opt instead for 2 separate radios, such as a pair of IC-7000s, FT-817s, FT-857, FT-897, FT-706 MKII, or a combo of any of these. This is particularly attractive if you already have an all mode rig for 2 meters. The cheapest route may be a pair of FT-817s, if you can live with the small knobs and controls and the 5w out (adequate for the sats with a good antenna, and if you want more you can buy a cheap 30w amp). You can buy these used for under $400 each (the newer ND model is pricier). Software such as SatPC32 or Ham Radio Deluxe controls the 2 radios so that the downlink frequency matches your uplink. Stay away from the older radios that cannot be computer controlled. It is theoretically possible to work the linear sats with a single, non-duplex radio. As the tracking programs are supposed to set transmit frequency automatically to match the spot where your receiver is tuned, it should not be necessary to hear your downlink. I made a few contacts this way with a single IC-7000, but it is not recommended, as the tracking programs are often a bit off with the frequency calculation. There are also some intriguing transverter options but I'm not familiar with those. If interested, check out the Elecraft, Down East Microwave, and Flex Radio. 73, Bill NZ5N Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 06:55:08 -0500 From: Jeff KB2M k...@comcast.net Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu 847 vs. Icom 910 To: 'zach hillerson' qstick...@yahoo.com, amsat-bb@amsat.org Message-ID: 003c01cbcd07$31bc24b0$95346e10$@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Icom is coming out with a new hf/sat rig the IC-9100. It looks to be a bit pricy at around $3000 or so, but it will be newer technology. I sold my 910 to make room for one on my desk :) I did keep my trusty 14 year old 847 I purchased new. I would recommend the 847 over the 910, and if you have the means the 9100 would be my choice... 73 Jeff kb2m -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of zach hillerson Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 21:01 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu 847 vs. Icom 910 I am finally in the market for a base station radio for satellites.? I should mention that I am also planning to install a wire dipole in the backyard for HF work, but convenience shouldn't be the reason to buy/not to buy a radio. It seems that the Icom 910 and Yaesu 847 are the two main transceivers in base use for satellites.? I know some folks are using the Kenwood TS2000, bu i t I understand thatit has a birdie that makes operation on a couple FM satellites challenging.? I am hoping to work both the linear and fm birds with this transceiver.? Is there a BB favorite?? Have I just opened up a bad can of worms?? I just want to make sure that I am purchasing the proper parts the first time ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu 847 vs. Icom 910
I might suggest an Icom 821H. I had used mine on Sats for many years and works great with SatPC32. It is now upstares in closet. Maybe I should sell it? John WB9PNU -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org]On Behalf Of Bill Dzurilla Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 1:18 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu 847 vs. Icom 910 At long last, the IC-9100 received FCC approval last week, so it may finally be hitting the market. I talked to an ICOM rep at the Orlando hamfest on Saturday, and she said they still do not have any in the USA. There are photos on the ICOM website. Still no official word on price, but it won't be cheap, perhaps even more than the $3000 mentioned by Jeff (I've heard speculation close to $4000). I have 2 FT-847s and like them, especially in Europe where I can use it on 70mhz (4 meters). Cons: only 50w out on 2 meters, problematic volume control and power switch, no 1296 mhz option, no internal antenna tuner, no VOX. The TS-2000 has 100w on 2 meters, a 1296 mhz option, VOX, and an HF/50 mhz antenna tuner, but it does have the incurable birdie that inhibits reception on AO-27 and SO-50. Kenwood apparently has no interest in providing a fix. The IC-910 is supposedly the best VHF/UHF radio of the group, but it does not do HF or 6 meters. These are the only current options for a first class all-in-one setup for linear satellites. They are similar in price on the used market, about $900-$1200. Many opt instead for 2 separate radios, such as a pair of IC-7000s, FT-817s, FT-857, FT-897, FT-706 MKII, or a combo of any of these. This is particularly attractive if you already have an all mode rig for 2 meters. The cheapest route may be a pair of FT-817s, if you can live with the small knobs and controls and the 5w out (adequate for the sats with a good antenna, and if you want more you can buy a cheap 30w amp). You can buy these used for under $400 each (the newer ND model is pricier). Software such as SatPC32 or Ham Radio Deluxe controls the 2 radios so that the downlink frequency matches your uplink. Stay away from the older radios that cannot be computer controlled. It is theoretically possible to work the linear sats with a single, non-duplex radio. As the tracking programs are supposed to set transmit frequency automatically to match the spot where your receiver is tuned, it should not be necessary to hear your downlink. I made a few contacts this way with a single IC-7000, but it is not recommended, as the tracking programs are often a bit off with the frequency calculation. There are also some intriguing transverter options but I'm not familiar with those. If interested, check out the Elecraft, Down East Microwave, and Flex Radio. 73, Bill NZ5N Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 06:55:08 -0500 From: Jeff KB2M k...@comcast.net Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu 847 vs. Icom 910 To: 'zach hillerson' qstick...@yahoo.com, amsat-bb@amsat.org Message-ID: 003c01cbcd07$31bc24b0$95346e10$@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Icom is coming out with a new hf/sat rig the IC-9100. It looks to be a bit pricy at around $3000 or so, but it will be newer technology. I sold my 910 to make room for one on my desk :) I did keep my trusty 14 year old 847 I purchased new. I would recommend the 847 over the 910, and if you have the means the 9100 would be my choice... 73 Jeff kb2m -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of zach hillerson Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 21:01 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu 847 vs. Icom 910 I am finally in the market for a base station radio for satellites.? I should mention that I am also planning to install a wire dipole in the backyard for HF work, but convenience shouldn't be the reason to buy/not to buy a radio. It seems that the Icom 910 and Yaesu 847 are the two main transceivers in base use for satellites.? I know some folks are using the Kenwood TS2000, bu i t I understand thatit has a birdie that makes operation on a couple FM satellites challenging.? I am hoping to work both the linear and fm birds with this transceiver.? Is there a BB favorite?? Have I just opened up a bad can of worms?? I just want to make sure that I am purchasing the proper parts the first time ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3445 - Release Date: 02/15/11 ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support
[amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu 847 vs. Icom 910
The 847 and I have covered many a mile. It's a workhorse great on the birds and okay on HF. 73, Joe kk0sd -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of zach hillerson Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 8:01 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu 847 vs. Icom 910 I am finally in the market for a base station radio for satellites. I should mention that I am also planning to install a wire dipole in the backyard for HF work, but convenience shouldn't be the reason to buy/not to buy a radio. It seems that the Icom 910 and Yaesu 847 are the two main transceivers in base use for satellites. I know some folks are using the Kenwood TS2000, bu i t I understand thatit has a birdie that makes operation on a couple FM satellites challenging. I am hoping to work both the linear and fm birds with this transceiver. Is there a BB favorite? Have I just opened up a bad can of worms? I just want to make sure that I am purchasing the proper parts the first time Thanks, Zach N4ERZ ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
