[amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu FT-8800

2011-01-12 Thread Gary "Joe" Mayfield
I have an 8900 and have found the right side hears the birds a just a little 
better than the left  Anyone else hear anything like that?

73,
Joe kk0sd

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Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 2:51 PM
To: Clint Bradford
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Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu FT-8800

The 8800 is sweet for everything else that I use it for - repeaters, x-band 
repeat (handy function!), simplex, you name it, but I never seemed to have 
good success using it for satellite work.  Maybe I need to pull it out again 
and give it another try.

Like I said, I can’t make an accurate judgment on it since I have only used 
it a few times.  I do know that in my experience the receive sensitivity of 
radios (of the same make/model) differ from radio to radio.  I have 2 
THG71As sitting on my desk that are proof of that.  I have to use a certain 
one for receive because the other one doesn’t produce as good results.

Just my 2 cents.

Zack
KD8KSN

-Original Message- 
From: Clint Bradford
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 3:43 PM
To: Zachary Beougher
Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: Re: Yaesu FT-8800

>> ...  I do not like the receive sensitivity ...

Hmmm ... I just didn't experience that. Does your '8800 work fine for 
local/repeater work?

Clint, K6LCS


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[amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu FT-8800

2011-01-12 Thread Ari Kosonen
2011/1/12 Ernie Howard 

> I have three of the FT-8800 mobiles. They work great for satellite.


I have FT-8900 in my car (which is pretty much the same radio, except with
2 additional bands, 28 and 50 MHz).
I am quite happy with the sensitivity of the radio, no problems hearing
AO-51
and having few QSOs with suitable passes with Diamond NR770 mobile whip
in the tailgate of my vehicle. Usually passes rising not higher than ~60
degs
are quite good but the whip is not that good in higher elevations.

What I particularily like (besides the sat-capability) is that normally I am
using
the left side of the radio for monitoring the local repeaters while right
side acts
as an APRS transmitter (with TinyTrak attached).

What I don't like is the wobbly and fragile feeling of knobs of the radio.

The first FT-8900 I bought was DOA right out of the box, but after it got
replaced with another one, the current unit has served few years flawlessly.

73 de Ari OH3KAV
Tampere, Finland (grid: KP11)
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[amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu FT-8800

2011-01-12 Thread Edward R. Cole
At 12:17 PM 1/12/2011, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) wrote:
>Hi Zack!
>
> > I don't mean to be the odd guy on the block, but I do not like the 8800 for
> > satellite work.  I enjoy the full duplex function, and it is very easy to
> > maneuver through the frequencies/bands using the mic, but I do not like the
> > receive sensitivity.  Every time I have tried to use it for 
> satellite work I
> > feel like I fight it the entire time trying to get a strong 
> signal.  I can't
> > exactly make a very accurate judgment on it either since I have 
> only used it
> > a few times.
>
>Don't apologize for posting an opinion.  As you mentioned with your
>TH-G71As, there can be differences between two of the same model
>of radio.
>
>I bought two FT-8800s a year or so ago.  One is in Mexico with an Elk
>antenna I left down there, and the other one needs to have those knobs
>replaced.  The 8800 is my backup to that IC-2820H I mentioned in an
>earlier post as my full-duplex FM satellite radio.  The sensitivity could
>be a little better, but I'm happier with it than other radios like my
>DJ-G7T.  I probably should send it off to Yaesu to get those knobs
>replaced, and then try it again on the FM birds.
>
>73!
>
>
>
>
>Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
>http://www.wd9ewk.net/

Just reading the mail.  I wonder if anyone uses the TM-700 or TM-710 
for satellite?  Are they duplex?  They are supposedly the mobile mate 
to the TH-D7 and new TH-D72.  Looking at them for potential future 
use on both APRS and Sat as a mobile.



73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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[amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu FT-8800

2011-01-12 Thread Ernie Howard
I have three of the FT-8800 mobiles. They work great for satellite. It 
is my FM radio for sat operation installed here at home. I've tried 
other dual band radios, but the FT-8800 is much preferred.

The downside is that I too have noticed that they lack sensitivity 
especially on 70cm. Yes, I measured it on a signal generator. They are 
more than 5 to 7 db down from other radios that I have. But they do have 
better intermod immunity that most radios.

I have used one of my FT-8800 units with a hand held Arrow antenna and 
short coax for club and class demos with good success.

Don't expect it to hear the weaker sats well, like SO-50, on the end of 
about 75' of coax on steerable beams on the roof. My solution for this 
at home was to place a SSB preamp at the antenna on the roof. With that 
setup I can hear SO-50 horizon to horizon. Without the preamp I have 
drop outs and signals are very weak at the horizon.


Ernie W8EH


On 1/12/2011 3:43 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
>>> ...  I do not like the receive sensitivity ...
> Hmmm ... I just didn't experience that. Does your '8800 work fine for 
> local/repeater work?
>
> Clint, K6LCS
>
>
>
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[amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu FT-8800

2011-01-12 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Hi Zack!

> I don’t mean to be the odd guy on the block, but I do not like the 8800 for
> satellite work.  I enjoy the full duplex function, and it is very easy to
> maneuver through the frequencies/bands using the mic, but I do not like the
> receive sensitivity.  Every time I have tried to use it for satellite work I
> feel like I fight it the entire time trying to get a strong signal.  I can’t
> exactly make a very accurate judgment on it either since I have only used it
> a few times.

Don't apologize for posting an opinion.  As you mentioned with your
TH-G71As, there can be differences between two of the same model
of radio.

I bought two FT-8800s a year or so ago.  One is in Mexico with an Elk
antenna I left down there, and the other one needs to have those knobs
replaced.  The 8800 is my backup to that IC-2820H I mentioned in an
earlier post as my full-duplex FM satellite radio.  The sensitivity could
be a little better, but I'm happier with it than other radios like my
DJ-G7T.  I probably should send it off to Yaesu to get those knobs
replaced, and then try it again on the FM birds.

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/




>  If others say it works well, I would have to go with the
> general consensus since I don't use it much.  The 2 THG71As, and now the
> THD7A and 1 THG71A (yeah, I know the D7 is full duplex, but that is another
> story) are my regular satellite equipment.
>
> 73!
>
> Zack
> KD8KSN
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Clint Bradford
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 2:19 PM
> To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu FT-8800
>
> Great for sat work - like Patrick mentioned.
>
> For portability, I have installed mine in an ice chest ... photos at ...
>
> ttp://tinyurl.com/cooler-radios
>
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS
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[amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu FT-8800

2011-01-12 Thread Zachary Beougher
The 8800 is sweet for everything else that I use it for - repeaters, x-band 
repeat (handy function!), simplex, you name it, but I never seemed to have 
good success using it for satellite work.  Maybe I need to pull it out again 
and give it another try.

Like I said, I can’t make an accurate judgment on it since I have only used 
it a few times.  I do know that in my experience the receive sensitivity of 
radios (of the same make/model) differ from radio to radio.  I have 2 
THG71As sitting on my desk that are proof of that.  I have to use a certain 
one for receive because the other one doesn’t produce as good results.

Just my 2 cents.

Zack
KD8KSN

-Original Message- 
From: Clint Bradford
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 3:43 PM
To: Zachary Beougher
Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: Re: Yaesu FT-8800

>> ...  I do not like the receive sensitivity ...

Hmmm ... I just didn't experience that. Does your '8800 work fine for 
local/repeater work?

Clint, K6LCS


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[amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu FT-8800

2011-01-12 Thread Clint Bradford
>> ...  I do not like the receive sensitivity ...

Hmmm ... I just didn't experience that. Does your '8800 work fine for 
local/repeater work?

Clint, K6LCS



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[amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu FT-8800

2011-01-12 Thread Zachary Beougher
Hi Everyone!

I don’t mean to be the odd guy on the block, but I do not like the 8800 for 
satellite work.  I enjoy the full duplex function, and it is very easy to 
maneuver through the frequencies/bands using the mic, but I do not like the 
receive sensitivity.  Every time I have tried to use it for satellite work I 
feel like I fight it the entire time trying to get a strong signal.  I can’t 
exactly make a very accurate judgment on it either since I have only used it 
a few times.  If others say it works well, I would have to go with the 
general consensus since I don't use it much.  The 2 THG71As, and now the 
THD7A and 1 THG71A (yeah, I know the D7 is full duplex, but that is another 
story) are my regular satellite equipment.

73!

Zack
KD8KSN

-Original Message- 
From: Clint Bradford
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 2:19 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu FT-8800

Great for sat work - like Patrick mentioned.

For portability, I have installed mine in an ice chest ... photos at ...

ttp://tinyurl.com/cooler-radios

Clint Bradford, K6LCS
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[amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu FT-8800

2011-01-12 Thread Clint Bradford
Great for sat work - like Patrick mentioned.

For portability, I have installed mine in an ice chest ... photos at ...

ttp://tinyurl.com/cooler-radios

Clint Bradford, K6LCS
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[amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu FT 8800

2011-01-12 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Hi!

> Does anyone on the reflector have any experience with? the Yaesu FT8800
> for satellite operation?? Any information will be appreciated.

It is a good radio for FM satellite work.  You get separate knobs for volume
and tuning on each VFO, so you don't have to switch between the VFOs
when it is time to adjust your receiver. My 8800 is one of 3 radios I have
that are capable of cross-band full-duplex operation (the others are an
IC-2820H dual-band mobile, and the new TH-D72A HT).  The 8800's
receiver is not as sensitive as the receivers in the other two radios, but it
is adequate for satellite work.

One huge advantage for the FT-8800 over the IC-2820H is price.  I think
the 2820 is almost $200 more than the 8800, and you don't get anything
extra with the 2820 like D-Star (it is *capable* of D-Star operation, but you
must buy the optional board for that - almost $200 more).  The knobs on
the 8800's control head will not resist much banging around, so be careful
if you plan to pack the 8800 in a box or bag and travel with it (or if you
mount it somewhere).  They can break off easily, something I have seen
with mine.  :-(

73!






Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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