Re: [analog-help] Re: Ranking logic; characters; total referrals

2004-06-10 Thread analog-help
Just to be clear, you are talking about adding a column to each of the 
time reports that counts the number of unique referrers for the 
specified time period. In order to do this, Analog would need to 
aggregate the referrers and count the number of lines for each time 
period that each unique referrer has. It may seem different than the 
cross-referencing, but it's exactly the same problem as asking to count 
the number of hosts visiting on each day.

Yes, this can be done, but it will require a lot more memory. Both hosts 
and referrers have *lots* of unique entries in most logs (whereas 
requests have much fewer), so it would significantly increase the memory 
overhead of the processing.
There are lots of existing arguments in this list archive about when 
such things could or could not be done and whether the option of 
enabling or disabling such reports could be determined by condiguration 
rather than design. Right now, the design spec (as far as I know) is to 
not include any such reports.

--
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Seven Simple Machines
Szegő Ákos wrote:
Re: Referral Time Reports
"Can I find out which files each referrer pointed to? 
or Can I find out which files each host has read? 
or Can I find out which hosts have read each file? 
or Can I find out the number of hosts visiting on each day?
or lots of similar questions." [from FAQ]

I feel my suggestion is not analogous with these. In such cases analog 
would first aggregate entries that belong together (e.g. log lines 
belonging to the same host or same file) then sort them by another 
parameter (e.g date or file). 

To create a referral time report, analog does not have to aggregate 
entries that belong together because each referral is on its own. A 
referrer field is a straightforward, easily recognizable, one-off 
information, like a page request. I am not a programmer (not by far), but 
to me it seems that a time report should not need cross-referencing as 
long as it counts individual, discrete entries, without any 
pre-aggregation.

Perhaps I am wrong, I only wonder. Thanks for your help.
 

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RE: [analog-help] arguments to request

2004-06-10 Thread analog-help
Just to follow up on that response.

There are 4 different type of search strings, all of
which do show up on the request report. It is just
that that request is not sub categorized into showing
the individual strings. On tht note I also set
REQARGSFLOOR 1R

and it does not show the query still. 

Funny thing is that setting does not show up when I do
the "analog -setting" command.

Abhi.

--- Jeff Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are you sure the query string is present in your log
> files?
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> 
> Hi my server recives requets in the form 
> 
> "GET
>
/vafwebapp/sportsWatch.do?category=sportMain&assID=2&sports=Football
> HTTP/1.1" 
> 
> 
> By default, argumens showing in REQUEST REPORT is
> supposed to be enabled. But apaprently, after
> reading
> the entire docs and tyring various things including
> ARGSINCLE (after reading the docs) did not show it
> in
> the report.
> 
> Please help.
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RE: [analog-help] arguments to request

2004-06-10 Thread analog-help
Yes.
My initial email is showing the exact request field
copy pasted from the log file. The query string is
shown as part of the request field and not seprately
in the log file.

Please tell me what arguments would you use to display
it. In the mean time I also used the "analog
-settings" command

Found some interesting stuff:

Although the doc says, search strings are enabled by
default, it is just the opposite. Search strings are
disabled by default. So I enabled them using
ARGSINCLUDE *

 and found the folowing  confirmation 

..
..
Including (+) and excluding (-) the following search
arguments:
  All excluded, then
  + *
..
..

I also 
1. made the floor for items and sub items as one
request
2. I also included the all LINKS for REQUEST REPORTT

they are confirmed as follows:

  Request Report [ON]
Columns: #requests %bytes last-time
Sorting by number of requests
Floor is: 1 request
Sorting sub-items by number of requests
Floor for sub-items is: 1 request
Plotting pie chart by number of requests
Including (+) and excluding (-) the following in
the report:
  All included, then
  - *
  + *.htm*
  + /vafwebapp/sportsWatch.do
Including (+) and excluding (-) the following
links in the report:
  All excluded, then
  + *

--- Jeff Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are you sure the query string is present in your log
> files?
> 
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> Subject: [analog-help] arguments to request
> 
> Hi my server recives requets in the form 
> 
> "GET
>
/vafwebapp/sportsWatch.do?category=sportMain&assID=2&sports=Football
> HTTP/1.1" 
> 
> 
> By default, argumens showing in REQUEST REPORT is
> supposed to be enabled. But apaprently, after
> reading
> the entire docs and tyring various things including
> ARGSINCLE (after reading the docs) did not show it
> in
> the report.
> 
> Please help.
> 
> 
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Re: [analog-help] Problem with a query string url

2004-06-10 Thread analog-help
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Paul Richards-Training wrote:

> Hi...
>
> Trying to run a report on a url which we cannot seem to isolate, ie. So
> we just get an html report on this link alone.
>
> The url is exactly as follows (it's an intranet url):
> http://learn.gateway.bbc.co.uk/searchResults.asp?delivery=ONLINECOURSE
>

Did you try

FILEINCLUDE
http://learn.gateway.bbc.co.uk/searchResults.asp?delivery=ONLINECOURSE

(all on one line)?

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RE: [analog-help] arguments to request

2004-06-10 Thread analog-help
Are you sure the query string is present in your log files?

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Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [analog-help] arguments to request

Hi my server recives requets in the form 

"GET
/vafwebapp/sportsWatch.do?category=sportMain&assID=2&sports=Football
HTTP/1.1" 


By default, argumens showing in REQUEST REPORT is
supposed to be enabled. But apaprently, after reading
the entire docs and tyring various things including
ARGSINCLE (after reading the docs) did not show it in
the report.

Please help.




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[analog-help] arguments to request

2004-06-10 Thread analog-help
Hi my server recives requets in the form 

"GET
/vafwebapp/sportsWatch.do?category=sportMain&assID=2&sports=Football
HTTP/1.1" 


By default, argumens showing in REQUEST REPORT is
supposed to be enabled. But apaprently, after reading
the entire docs and tyring various things including
ARGSINCLE (after reading the docs) did not show it in
the report.

Please help.




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[analog-help] Problem with a query string url

2004-06-10 Thread analog-help
Title: Problem with a query string url






Hi…


Trying to run a report on a url which we cannot seem to isolate, ie. So we just get an html report on this link alone. 


The url is exactly as follows (it's an intranet url):

http://learn.gateway.bbc.co.uk/searchResults.asp?delivery=ONLINECOURSE


We have tried all sorts of variants of fileinclude, reqinclude and arginclude but just cannot extract this url.


The best we have so far got is the following set of commands in the config file:


FILEINCLUDE /searchresults.asp*delivery=* 

REQINCLUDE /searchresults.asp?*delivery=* 

REQINCLUDE /searchresults.asp*



This at least gives us all the query which include "delivery=", but when we add the letter "O*" after the "=" we get nowhere again…Ie, a report with null results.

We have tried in both 5.32 and 5.91 BETA with identical issues arising.


Would welcome any guidance in trying to extract this particular query-string url.


Paul


Very best wishes, 

Paul Richards
BBC Gateway Team - Statistics and Search
Internal ext: 89354
External phone number: 020 7208 9354
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[analog-help] RE: Browser Report/Summary - None Displayed - Problem Solved

2004-06-10 Thread analog-help
Thanks Aengus!  That was the problem.


Sincerely,
Paul Dowd
Special Systems Technician
C/W MARS, Inc
1 Sunset Lane
Paxton, Massachusetts 01612-1197
Phone: (508) 755-3323 x.28
Fax: (508) 755-3721
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Web: http://www.cwmars.org

 On 2004-06-10 at 17:35:00 you wrote: 

>Paul Dowd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> When processing my logfile I cannot get analog to display the
>> browsers used to access my pages in the report.  Instead I see [not
>> listed: 4 browsers] in the report and [not listed: 1 browser] in the
>> summary.  I'm not sure what is wrong.
>
>The line immediately above the report should show what the "floor" for
>that report is, for example:
>
>Listing browsers with at least 1 request for a page, sorted by the
>number of requests for pages.
>
>You can change the floor by using the BROWREPFLOOR and BROWSUMFLOOR
>directives:
>
>BROWREPFLOOR 1r
>
>to list all browsers with at least 1 request. (Note that the default
>seems to be for browsers with a request for _pages_ - if you are using
>IIS, for example, you shoule make sure to use PAGEINCLUDE *.asp, as not
>all requests are requests for pages).
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Re: [analog-help] RE: Browser Report/Summary - None Displayed

2004-06-10 Thread analog-help
Paul Dowd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> When processing my logfile I cannot get analog to display the
> browsers used to access my pages in the report.  Instead I see [not
> listed: 4 browsers] in the report and [not listed: 1 browser] in the
> summary.  I'm not sure what is wrong.

The line immediately above the report should show what the "floor" for
that report is, for example:

Listing browsers with at least 1 request for a page, sorted by the
number of requests for pages.

You can change the floor by using the BROWREPFLOOR and BROWSUMFLOOR
directives:

BROWREPFLOOR 1r

to list all browsers with at least 1 request. (Note that the default
seems to be for browsers with a request for _pages_ - if you are using
IIS, for example, you shoule make sure to use PAGEINCLUDE *.asp, as not
all requests are requests for pages).

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[analog-help] RE: Browser Report/Summary - None Displayed

2004-06-10 Thread analog-help
Hi Everyone,

I'm new to the list and I'm currently engaged in learning Analog.  I find the program 
to be awesome in its ability to process logs and to do so quickly.  But, I'm faced 
with a small problem right now.  I've already RTFM, but could not find my answer 
(possibly I missed it).  When processing my logfile I cannot get analog to display the 
browsers used to access my pages in the report.  Instead I see [not listed: 4 
browsers] in the report and [not listed: 1 browser] in the summary.  I'm not sure what 
is wrong.  

My log is in the following format:  

LOGFORMAT (%s %S %u [%d/%M/%Y:%h:%n:%j] "%j %r %j" %c %b "%B")

A couple of examples of the "%B" field from the logfile itself:

"Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705)"
"Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; AOL 9.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)"

I should note here that the OS report populates nicely showing the various OSes used.  
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.



Sincerely,
Paul Dowd
Special Systems Technician
C/W MARS, Inc
1 Sunset Lane
Paxton, Massachusetts 01612-1197
Phone: (508) 755-3323 x.28
Fax: (508) 755-3721
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Re: [analog-help] Re: Ranking logic; characters; total referrals

2004-06-10 Thread analog-help
There is no secondary sort criterion, and I don't have any desire to add
one. It's much more cumbersome than it's worth.

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Re: [analog-help] Re: Ranking logic; characters; total referrals

2004-06-10 Thread analog-help
Szegő Ákos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My question referred to
> entries that cannot be sorted by the parameter given there, because
> the parameter has the same value for them (i.e. pages each requested
> once, referrers each referring once etc.). I cannot see a consistent
> logic behind ranking such entries.

I have a (very!) vague recollection that this question came up some time
back on the list, but I can't remember what the answer was. Without
looking into it in any way, I would imagine that the list is created as
items are encounterd in the log, and therefore "unsortable" items
default to sorting by date.

You might want to add the "Date and time of last access" (D) and "Date
and time of first access" (E) columns to your request report to see if
it at least explains what is happening, even if it doesn't allow you to
control it

REQCOLS NPpDE

http://analog.cx/docs/othreps.html#othCOLS

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Re: [analog-help] Can you change the "Listing the top # "

2004-06-10 Thread analog-help
Tom W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On the report file, underneath some graphs it says (for example),
> 'Listing the top 40 browsers'.
> 
> Is it possible to change this number so that it would list the top 60
> browsers, for example?
> 
> (I have been through the documentation and FAQ's etc. but have not
> found an answer.

You use the FLOOR directives:

BROWREPFLOOR -60r
will list the top 60 Browsers (by number of requests).

BROWREPFLOOR 60r
will list all browsers with at least 60 requests.

http://analog.cx/docs/othreps.html#FLOOR
http://analog.cx/docs/hierreps.html#SUBFLOOR

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[analog-help] Re: Ranking logic; characters; total referrals

2004-06-10 Thread analog-help
Dear Mr Wadsack,

Thank you for your answers.

Re: SORTBY

I do know and use the SORTBY command. My question referred to 
entries that cannot be sorted by the parameter given there, because 
the parameter has the same value for them (i.e. pages each requested 
once, referrers each referring once etc.). I cannot see a consistent logic 
behind ranking such entries.

Running analog one day might produce:

no.: pages: %pages: site
---: -: --: 

85:1:  0.24%: http://images.google.com/
86:1:  0.24%: http://www.google.com.au/
87:1:  0.24%: http://www.google.ca/

and the next day (run on fresh log files):

87:1:  0.22%: http://images.google.com/
88:1:  0.22%: http://www.google.ca/
89:1:  0.22%: http://www.google.com.au/

Nothing changes in terms of these 3 items, still they are shown in a 
different order. Why is this happening, and what can be done to make 
such entries rank according to some rule consistently?

Re: Referral Time Reports

"Can I find out which files each referrer pointed to? 
or Can I find out which files each host has read? 
or Can I find out which hosts have read each file? 
or Can I find out the number of hosts visiting on each day?
or lots of similar questions." [from FAQ]

I feel my suggestion is not analogous with these. In such cases analog 
would first aggregate entries that belong together (e.g. log lines 
belonging to the same host or same file) then sort them by another 
parameter (e.g date or file). 

To create a referral time report, analog does not have to aggregate 
entries that belong together because each referral is on its own. A 
referrer field is a straightforward, easily recognizable, one-off 
information, like a page request. I am not a programmer (not by far), but 
to me it seems that a time report should not need cross-referencing as 
long as it counts individual, discrete entries, without any 
pre-aggregation.

Perhaps I am wrong, I only wonder. Thanks for your help.

Best regards,

Akos
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[analog-help] Can you change the "Listing the top # "

2004-06-10 Thread analog-help
On the report file, underneath some graphs it says (for example), 'Listing 
the top 40 browsers'.

Is it possible to change this number so that it would list the top 60 
browsers, for example?

(I have been through the documentation and FAQ's etc. but have not found an 
answer.

Many Thanks,
Tom.
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