[android-beginners] The use of Eclipse for android development

2008-12-08 Thread Brad Fuller

I'm beginning to investigate the android development env and see that
Eclipse is heavily promoted for both editing and debugging. How
integrated, or how important, is the use of Eclipse for android
development? Will I be losing out by using another editor (I use vi)?
And what about debugging? From experience, I know that some companies
heavily promote one tool and focus their help in that one area --
often ignoring the rest. Often times developers end up with
insufficient assistance if they don't go along with the status quo
since documentation is concentrated around their tool(s) of choice.
Anyone NOT using Eclipse? what are your (horror) stories for android
development? Those using Eclipse, how well did you adapt to Eclipse
and the android plugin?

thanks much,

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[android-beginners] Re: The use of Eclipse for android development

2008-12-09 Thread Brad Fuller

Thanks Ralf and Ian. I too use vi so it's good to know that it works
well for you. I've started using it yesterday and compiled and ran the
source demos fine. It sure seems like there's a lot of "stuff" in
eclipse to learn, though. I'm used to Smalltalk environment with its
integrated "everything". Eclipse seems the way to go, though. Guess
I'll start learning it. (sigh, yet another tool to learn...>

Thanks again!

brad
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[android-beginners] Re: Android and Windows Host file

2008-12-09 Thread Brad Fuller

did you try "localhost"? as the address (or 127.0.0.1)

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:17 AM, isisagate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I am trying to develop an Android app that connects to a tomcat web
> service and want to be able to load it off my local machine.
>
> In my host file on my windows dev machine I have the service's URL
> defined and tomcat running, however when i try to load the page it
> says it cannot find it. I read that the Android emulator is not setup
> to use the host file. Is there a way I can get it to use the host
> file, or add the url entry to android so it will connect to the server
> hosted on the same machine the emulator is hosted on.
>


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[android-beginners] Re: The use of Eclipse for android development

2008-12-09 Thread Brad Fuller

Thanks Fabor. Seems we are in the same boat, preferring vi and command
line for Java programming. I think my experience in Smalltalk is both
beneficial and detrimental to learning Eclipse. While I know Java,
(and have done Brew and J2ME) Eclipse is only a bit like Smalltalk
class browsers and Java certainly ain't Smalltalk!

I appreciate your reply!

brad

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Faber Fedor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Brad Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> I'm beginning to investigate the android development env and see that
>> Eclipse is heavily promoted for both editing and debugging. How
>> integrated, or how important, is the use of Eclipse for android
>> development?
>
> Unless you are well-versed in Java, XML, ANT and how this platform
> integrates the above with resources and how tightly integrated all these
> parts are, I'd say you would be a fool not to use Eclipse.
>
> If you're familiar with Java ME or BREW, it might not be as painful for you.
>
>> Will I be losing out by using another editor (I use vi)?
>
> I'm a vi(m) guy and I m loving Eclipse.  I do screw up switching back and
> forth between them (some things are just better in vi(m)) but I've gotten
> used to it.
>
> There are vi bindings for Eclipse, but I've not installed it yet.
>
>>
>> And what about debugging?
>
> It's awesome.  While the Perl debugger is very capable, I never realized how
> much I missed a GUI debugger.  There's also a scary looking hardware
> debugger thingie call DDMS (IIRC) that looks pretty powerful but I've not
> needed to use it yet.
>
> And the Google App Engine plugin makes debugging GAE apps a breeze (no more
> print statements scattered through your web app).
>
>>
>>  Those using Eclipse, how well did you adapt to Eclipse
>> and the android plugin?
>
> I am a hard-core command line guy. I have come to love Eclipse.  I would
> have never been able to tackle and Android app without it; the plugin takes
> care of much of the drudgery work so you can get to learning the framework
> (which is a major chore in and of itself).
>
> Use the Eclipse and the Android plugin.  you can always go back to vi later
> if it suits you, but I don't think it will.
>
> --
>
> Faber Fedor
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>
> >
>



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[android-beginners] Re: how to use rild on OMAP2430

2008-12-09 Thread Brad Fuller

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Tejaswi Jayaprakash
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> hi
>
> v hav ported android on OMAP2430 hardware.
> Can anyone tell me how to use the rild which is available. We tried to
> execute like
>
> rild -l  /system/lib/librild.so -p /dev/ttyS1
>
> it just hangs. Can anyone help pls

You might send your inquiries to the android porting group.

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[android-beginners] Anatomy of receiving a call

2009-01-08 Thread Brad Fuller

Is there documentation available that details, or can someone tell me,
what happens in Android when a phone call is coming in? I guess that
would include the detection of the incoming call, how the
RingToneManager is called, how it goes off-hook, etc.


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