[android-beginners] Re: How to install and run applications from within another application?

2009-08-25 Thread engin

Hi calle, I also tried to install application but get package parsing
error. Can't we use file:///data/data/package/files/application.apk.
I  downloaded file /files but I cannot install it. Installation code
is below.What may be problem?
 String packageName=this.getPackageName() ;
 String fileName ="file:///data/data/"+packageName+"/files/
Button5.apk";
 File apkFile = new File(fileName);
  Intent intent = new Intent(Intent.ACTION_VIEW);
  intent.setDataAndType(Uri.fromFile(apkFile),
"application/vnd.android.package-archive");
startActivity(intent);

On 13 Temmuz, 16:27, calleandersson 
wrote:
> Hi Justin,
>
> Thanks for your answers.
>
> I didn't realize that a file was be placed in the private directory
> when using MODE_WORLD_READABLE. I've been testing using the mode you
> suggested and this seems to work as intended (meaning, the system
> install UI is invoked and the application can be installed).
>
> I still have some questions though.
>
> Where is the private directory of an application located? Is it
> located in the phone memory or some kind of hidden files on the memory
> card?
>
> I discovered an article (http://strazzere.com/blog/?p=185) which
> described a problem with the Android Market. I suppose that something
> has been done to prevent the problem but is this something that could
> be done to every private directory or was it just an application
> specific problem?
>
> If my client install an application from an .apk file and then remove
> that .apk file, is it still possible for an user to somehow retreive
> or copy the application and use it on another device? What if the .apk
> file isn't removed?
>
> Regards,
> Calle
>
> On 6 Juli, 19:39, "Justin (Google Employee)"  wrote:
>
>
>
> > > > How does the process for retrieving system rights look like?
>
> > Its a matter of signatures. Whoever signs the system is also going to
> > need to sign any app that wants system privileges.
>
> > > I suppose this problem
> > > shouldn't exist if I was able to save the .apk file in the private
> > > directory of my application and then invoke the system install UI on
> > > the file.
>
> > Well, no, you can't have your cake and eat it to. The package manager
> > needs to be able to read the APK file to install the app. In order to
> > do this you need to place the APK in a world-readable location because
> > you can't have the same UID or GID as the package manager. No matter
> > what you do, if you want to allow the package manager to read the
> > file, everyone can. Now, if you put the file in your private directory
> > and set the mode to MODE_WORLD_READABLE, the package manager may be
> > able to read the file, I think it should be able to. Everyone else
> > can, but they would have to know the exact path because I don't
> > believe they can list the directory in which the file resides.
>
> > Now, regardless of where the APK is placed, you should probably delete
> > it after installation, otherwise you're at least doubling storage
> > space required per application. If you delete the APK after its
> > installed, you also fix your "install only to device downloaded on".
>
> > Cheers,
> > Justin
> > Android Team @ Google
>
> > On Jul 2, 3:48 am, calleandersson  wrote:
>
> > > I have been testing with the 'file://' prefix and got the following
> > > results:
>
> > > When saving an .apk file in the private directory of my application
> > > and trying to invoke the system installation UI, an parse error
> > > occured due to permission issues:
> > >   07-02 07:15:27.826: WARN/zipro(726): Unable to open zip '/data/data/
> > > test.calle.helloworld/files/AndroidHelloWorld.apk': Permission denied
> > >   07-02 07:15:27.826: DEBUG/asset(726): failed to open Zip archive '/
> > > data/data/test.calle.helloworld/files/AndroidHelloWorld.apk'
> > >   07-02 07:15:27.846: WARN/PackageParser(726): Unable to read
> > > AndroidManifest.xml of /data/data/test.calle.helloworld/files/
> > > AndroidHelloWorld.apk
> > >   07-02 07:15:27.846: WARN/PackageParser(726):
> > > java.io.FileNotFoundException: AndroidManifest.xml
> > >    ...
> > >   07-02 07:15:27.856: WARN/PackageInstaller(726): Parse error when
> > > parsing manifest. Discontinuing installation
>
> > > When I saved the .apk file on the SD card, everything went as supposed
> > > and the system installation UI was displayed.
>
> > > So far so good. However, I only want a downloaded .apk file to be
> > > installed on the same phone which downloaded it. If the application is
> > > placed on the SD card, wouldn't it be possible to use the same SD card
> > > in another phone (or copy the .apk file to another SD card used by
> > > another phone) and install the application on that phone too? Am I
> > > correct in these assumtions?
>
> > > With regards to what I wrote above, is it somehow possible to restrict
> > > an application file from beeing installed on any other phone except
> > > t

[android-beginners] Re: How to install and run applications from within another application?

2009-07-13 Thread QuickFix

Anyway,thers's no way to install without user interaction?
I'm developing App for automatic download, install and run.

Thanks,
BM

On Jul 13, 10:27 pm, calleandersson 
wrote:
> Hi Justin,
>
> Thanks for your answers.
>
> I didn't realize that a file was be placed in the private directory
> when using MODE_WORLD_READABLE. I've been testing using the mode you
> suggested and this seems to work as intended (meaning, the system
> install UI is invoked and the application can be installed).
>
> I still have some questions though.
>
> Where is the private directory of an application located? Is it
> located in the phone memory or some kind of hidden files on the memory
> card?
>
> I discovered an article (http://strazzere.com/blog/?p=185) which
> described a problem with the Android Market. I suppose that something
> has been done to prevent the problem but is this something that could
> be done to every private directory or was it just an application
> specific problem?
>
> If my client install an application from an .apk file and then remove
> that .apk file, is it still possible for an user to somehow retreive
> or copy the application and use it on another device? What if the .apk
> file isn't removed?
>
> Regards,
> Calle
>
> On 6 Juli, 19:39, "Justin (Google Employee)"  wrote:
>
>
>
> > > > How does the process for retrieving system rights look like?
>
> > Its a matter of signatures. Whoever signs the system is also going to
> > need to sign any app that wants system privileges.
>
> > > I suppose this problem
> > > shouldn't exist if I was able to save the .apk file in the private
> > > directory of my application and then invoke the system install UI on
> > > the file.
>
> > Well, no, you can't have your cake and eat it to. The package manager
> > needs to be able to read the APK file to install the app. In order to
> > do this you need to place the APK in a world-readable location because
> > you can't have the same UID or GID as the package manager. No matter
> > what you do, if you want to allow the package manager to read the
> > file, everyone can. Now, if you put the file in your private directory
> > and set the mode to MODE_WORLD_READABLE, the package manager may be
> > able to read the file, I think it should be able to. Everyone else
> > can, but they would have to know the exact path because I don't
> > believe they can list the directory in which the file resides.
>
> > Now, regardless of where the APK is placed, you should probably delete
> > it after installation, otherwise you're at least doubling storage
> > space required per application. If you delete the APK after its
> > installed, you also fix your "install only to device downloaded on".
>
> > Cheers,
> > Justin
> > Android Team @ Google
>
> > On Jul 2, 3:48 am, calleandersson  wrote:
>
> > > I have been testing with the 'file://' prefix and got the following
> > > results:
>
> > > When saving an .apk file in the private directory of my application
> > > and trying to invoke the system installation UI, an parse error
> > > occured due to permission issues:
> > >   07-02 07:15:27.826: WARN/zipro(726): Unable to open zip '/data/data/
> > > test.calle.helloworld/files/AndroidHelloWorld.apk': Permission denied
> > >   07-02 07:15:27.826: DEBUG/asset(726): failed to open Zip archive '/
> > > data/data/test.calle.helloworld/files/AndroidHelloWorld.apk'
> > >   07-02 07:15:27.846: WARN/PackageParser(726): Unable to read
> > > AndroidManifest.xml of /data/data/test.calle.helloworld/files/
> > > AndroidHelloWorld.apk
> > >   07-02 07:15:27.846: WARN/PackageParser(726):
> > > java.io.FileNotFoundException: AndroidManifest.xml
> > >    ...
> > >   07-02 07:15:27.856: WARN/PackageInstaller(726): Parse error when
> > > parsing manifest. Discontinuing installation
>
> > > When I saved the .apk file on the SD card, everything went as supposed
> > > and the system installation UI was displayed.
>
> > > So far so good. However, I only want a downloaded .apk file to be
> > > installed on the same phone which downloaded it. If the application is
> > > placed on the SD card, wouldn't it be possible to use the same SD card
> > > in another phone (or copy the .apk file to another SD card used by
> > > another phone) and install the application on that phone too? Am I
> > > correct in these assumtions?
>
> > > With regards to what I wrote above, is it somehow possible to restrict
> > > an application file from beeing installed on any other phone except
> > > the very same phone which downloaded the .apk file (using my
> > > application)? Is system rights needed? I suppose this problem
> > > shouldn't exist if I was able to save the .apk file in the private
> > > directory of my application and then invoke the system install UI on
> > > the file.
>
> > > Regards,
> > > Calle
>
> > > On 1 Juli, 18:22, calleandersson  wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Justin,
>
> > > > Thanks for the tips about the 'file://' prefix and SD card, I will
> > > > look into that tomorrow.
>
> 

[android-beginners] Re: How to install and run applications from within another application?

2009-07-13 Thread calleandersson

Hi Justin,

Thanks for your answers.

I didn't realize that a file was be placed in the private directory
when using MODE_WORLD_READABLE. I've been testing using the mode you
suggested and this seems to work as intended (meaning, the system
install UI is invoked and the application can be installed).

I still have some questions though.

Where is the private directory of an application located? Is it
located in the phone memory or some kind of hidden files on the memory
card?

I discovered an article (http://strazzere.com/blog/?p=185) which
described a problem with the Android Market. I suppose that something
has been done to prevent the problem but is this something that could
be done to every private directory or was it just an application
specific problem?

If my client install an application from an .apk file and then remove
that .apk file, is it still possible for an user to somehow retreive
or copy the application and use it on another device? What if the .apk
file isn't removed?

Regards,
Calle

On 6 Juli, 19:39, "Justin (Google Employee)"  wrote:
> > > How does the process for retrieving system rights look like?
>
> Its a matter of signatures. Whoever signs the system is also going to
> need to sign any app that wants system privileges.
>
> > I suppose this problem
> > shouldn't exist if I was able to save the .apk file in the private
> > directory of my application and then invoke the system install UI on
> > the file.
>
> Well, no, you can't have your cake and eat it to. The package manager
> needs to be able to read the APK file to install the app. In order to
> do this you need to place the APK in a world-readable location because
> you can't have the same UID or GID as the package manager. No matter
> what you do, if you want to allow the package manager to read the
> file, everyone can. Now, if you put the file in your private directory
> and set the mode to MODE_WORLD_READABLE, the package manager may be
> able to read the file, I think it should be able to. Everyone else
> can, but they would have to know the exact path because I don't
> believe they can list the directory in which the file resides.
>
> Now, regardless of where the APK is placed, you should probably delete
> it after installation, otherwise you're at least doubling storage
> space required per application. If you delete the APK after its
> installed, you also fix your "install only to device downloaded on".
>
> Cheers,
> Justin
> Android Team @ Google
>
> On Jul 2, 3:48 am, calleandersson  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I have been testing with the 'file://' prefix and got the following
> > results:
>
> > When saving an .apk file in the private directory of my application
> > and trying to invoke the system installation UI, an parse error
> > occured due to permission issues:
> >   07-02 07:15:27.826: WARN/zipro(726): Unable to open zip '/data/data/
> > test.calle.helloworld/files/AndroidHelloWorld.apk': Permission denied
> >   07-02 07:15:27.826: DEBUG/asset(726): failed to open Zip archive '/
> > data/data/test.calle.helloworld/files/AndroidHelloWorld.apk'
> >   07-02 07:15:27.846: WARN/PackageParser(726): Unable to read
> > AndroidManifest.xml of /data/data/test.calle.helloworld/files/
> > AndroidHelloWorld.apk
> >   07-02 07:15:27.846: WARN/PackageParser(726):
> > java.io.FileNotFoundException: AndroidManifest.xml
> >    ...
> >   07-02 07:15:27.856: WARN/PackageInstaller(726): Parse error when
> > parsing manifest. Discontinuing installation
>
> > When I saved the .apk file on the SD card, everything went as supposed
> > and the system installation UI was displayed.
>
> > So far so good. However, I only want a downloaded .apk file to be
> > installed on the same phone which downloaded it. If the application is
> > placed on the SD card, wouldn't it be possible to use the same SD card
> > in another phone (or copy the .apk file to another SD card used by
> > another phone) and install the application on that phone too? Am I
> > correct in these assumtions?
>
> > With regards to what I wrote above, is it somehow possible to restrict
> > an application file from beeing installed on any other phone except
> > the very same phone which downloaded the .apk file (using my
> > application)? Is system rights needed? I suppose this problem
> > shouldn't exist if I was able to save the .apk file in the private
> > directory of my application and then invoke the system install UI on
> > the file.
>
> > Regards,
> > Calle
>
> > On 1 Juli, 18:22, calleandersson  wrote:
>
> > > Hi Justin,
>
> > > Thanks for the tips about the 'file://' prefix and SD card, I will
> > > look into that tomorrow.
>
> > > How does the process for retrieving system rights look like? Is it the
> > > manufacturer of an Android device which decides if an application
> > > should have system rights? I suppose that that kind of clients must be
> > > installed/included in the device before it is released or am I wrong?
>
> > > Is there somehow possible to simulate that an ap

[android-beginners] Re: How to install and run applications from within another application?

2009-07-10 Thread Yasser

For getLaunchIntentForPackage(), it says it is undefined for type
PackageManager and hence code cannot compile?
i can see the other methods when I put . after getPackageManager()
except this one.

Thanks
Yasser

On Jul 6, 10:39 am, "Justin (Google Employee)" 
wrote:
> > > How does the process for retrieving system rights look like?
>
> Its a matter of signatures. Whoever signs the system is also going to
> need to sign any app that wants system privileges.
>
> > I suppose this problem
> > shouldn't exist if I was able to save the .apk file in the private
> > directory of my application and then invoke the system install UI on
> > the file.
>
> Well, no, you can't have your cake and eat it to. The package manager
> needs to be able to read the APK file to install the app. In order to
> do this you need to place the APK in a world-readable location because
> you can't have the same UID or GID as the package manager. No matter
> what you do, if you want to allow the package manager to read the
> file, everyone can. Now, if you put the file in your private directory
> and set the mode to MODE_WORLD_READABLE, the package manager may be
> able to read the file, I think it should be able to. Everyone else
> can, but they would have to know the exact path because I don't
> believe they can list the directory in which the file resides.
>
> Now, regardless of where the APK is placed, you should probably delete
> it after installation, otherwise you're at least doubling storage
> space required per application. If you delete the APK after its
> installed, you also fix your "install only to device downloaded on".
>
> Cheers,
> Justin
> Android Team @ Google
>
> On Jul 2, 3:48 am, calleandersson  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I have been testing with the 'file://' prefix and got the following
> > results:
>
> > When saving an .apk file in the private directory of my application
> > and trying to invoke the system installation UI, an parse error
> > occured due to permission issues:
> >   07-02 07:15:27.826: WARN/zipro(726): Unable to open zip '/data/data/
> > test.calle.helloworld/files/AndroidHelloWorld.apk': Permission denied
> >   07-02 07:15:27.826: DEBUG/asset(726): failed to open Zip archive '/
> > data/data/test.calle.helloworld/files/AndroidHelloWorld.apk'
> >   07-02 07:15:27.846: WARN/PackageParser(726): Unable to read
> > AndroidManifest.xml of /data/data/test.calle.helloworld/files/
> > AndroidHelloWorld.apk
> >   07-02 07:15:27.846: WARN/PackageParser(726):
> > java.io.FileNotFoundException: AndroidManifest.xml
> >    ...
> >   07-02 07:15:27.856: WARN/PackageInstaller(726): Parse error when
> > parsing manifest. Discontinuing installation
>
> > When I saved the .apk file on the SD card, everything went as supposed
> > and the system installation UI was displayed.
>
> > So far so good. However, I only want a downloaded .apk file to be
> > installed on the same phone which downloaded it. If the application is
> > placed on the SD card, wouldn't it be possible to use the same SD card
> > in another phone (or copy the .apk file to another SD card used by
> > another phone) and install the application on that phone too? Am I
> > correct in these assumtions?
>
> > With regards to what I wrote above, is it somehow possible to restrict
> > an application file from beeing installed on any other phone except
> > the very same phone which downloaded the .apk file (using my
> > application)? Is system rights needed? I suppose this problem
> > shouldn't exist if I was able to save the .apk file in the private
> > directory of my application and then invoke the system install UI on
> > the file.
>
> > Regards,
> > Calle
>
> > On 1 Juli, 18:22, calleandersson  wrote:
>
> > > Hi Justin,
>
> > > Thanks for the tips about the 'file://' prefix and SD card, I will
> > > look into that tomorrow.
>
> > > How does the process for retrieving system rights look like? Is it the
> > > manufacturer of an Android device which decides if an application
> > > should have system rights? I suppose that that kind of clients must be
> > > installed/included in the device before it is released or am I wrong?
>
> > > Is there somehow possible to simulate that an application has system
> > > rights in the Emulator?
>
> > > By the way, I was thinking of using the same Intent code to start an
> > > already installed application but, currently, I'm using the following
> > > code which seems to work pretty well (and the class name doesn't need
> > > to be specified):
> > > Intent intent = getPackageManager().getLaunchIntentForPackage
> > > (packageName);
> > > startActivity(intent);
>
> > > Regards,
> > > Calle
>
> > > On 1 Juli, 17:18, "Justin (Google Employee)"  wrote:
>
> > > > The package manager way will not work, you need the permission you
> > > > referenced, INSTALL_PACKAGES, which only the system has and is not
> > > > obtainable by user-installed applications.
>
> > > > I think your Intent-based method should work, I believe this is more
> > > > or

[android-beginners] Re: How to install and run applications from within another application?

2009-07-06 Thread Justin (Google Employee)

> > How does the process for retrieving system rights look like?

Its a matter of signatures. Whoever signs the system is also going to
need to sign any app that wants system privileges.

> I suppose this problem
> shouldn't exist if I was able to save the .apk file in the private
> directory of my application and then invoke the system install UI on
> the file.

Well, no, you can't have your cake and eat it to. The package manager
needs to be able to read the APK file to install the app. In order to
do this you need to place the APK in a world-readable location because
you can't have the same UID or GID as the package manager. No matter
what you do, if you want to allow the package manager to read the
file, everyone can. Now, if you put the file in your private directory
and set the mode to MODE_WORLD_READABLE, the package manager may be
able to read the file, I think it should be able to. Everyone else
can, but they would have to know the exact path because I don't
believe they can list the directory in which the file resides.

Now, regardless of where the APK is placed, you should probably delete
it after installation, otherwise you're at least doubling storage
space required per application. If you delete the APK after its
installed, you also fix your "install only to device downloaded on".

Cheers,
Justin
Android Team @ Google

On Jul 2, 3:48 am, calleandersson  wrote:
> I have been testing with the 'file://' prefix and got the following
> results:
>
> When saving an .apk file in the private directory of my application
> and trying to invoke the system installation UI, an parse error
> occured due to permission issues:
>   07-02 07:15:27.826: WARN/zipro(726): Unable to open zip '/data/data/
> test.calle.helloworld/files/AndroidHelloWorld.apk': Permission denied
>   07-02 07:15:27.826: DEBUG/asset(726): failed to open Zip archive '/
> data/data/test.calle.helloworld/files/AndroidHelloWorld.apk'
>   07-02 07:15:27.846: WARN/PackageParser(726): Unable to read
> AndroidManifest.xml of /data/data/test.calle.helloworld/files/
> AndroidHelloWorld.apk
>   07-02 07:15:27.846: WARN/PackageParser(726):
> java.io.FileNotFoundException: AndroidManifest.xml
>    ...
>   07-02 07:15:27.856: WARN/PackageInstaller(726): Parse error when
> parsing manifest. Discontinuing installation
>
> When I saved the .apk file on the SD card, everything went as supposed
> and the system installation UI was displayed.
>
> So far so good. However, I only want a downloaded .apk file to be
> installed on the same phone which downloaded it. If the application is
> placed on the SD card, wouldn't it be possible to use the same SD card
> in another phone (or copy the .apk file to another SD card used by
> another phone) and install the application on that phone too? Am I
> correct in these assumtions?
>
> With regards to what I wrote above, is it somehow possible to restrict
> an application file from beeing installed on any other phone except
> the very same phone which downloaded the .apk file (using my
> application)? Is system rights needed? I suppose this problem
> shouldn't exist if I was able to save the .apk file in the private
> directory of my application and then invoke the system install UI on
> the file.
>
> Regards,
> Calle
>
> On 1 Juli, 18:22, calleandersson  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Justin,
>
> > Thanks for the tips about the 'file://' prefix and SD card, I will
> > look into that tomorrow.
>
> > How does the process for retrieving system rights look like? Is it the
> > manufacturer of an Android device which decides if an application
> > should have system rights? I suppose that that kind of clients must be
> > installed/included in the device before it is released or am I wrong?
>
> > Is there somehow possible to simulate that an application has system
> > rights in the Emulator?
>
> > By the way, I was thinking of using the same Intent code to start an
> > already installed application but, currently, I'm using the following
> > code which seems to work pretty well (and the class name doesn't need
> > to be specified):
> > Intent intent = getPackageManager().getLaunchIntentForPackage
> > (packageName);
> > startActivity(intent);
>
> > Regards,
> > Calle
>
> > On 1 Juli, 17:18, "Justin (Google Employee)"  wrote:
>
> > > The package manager way will not work, you need the permission you
> > > referenced, INSTALL_PACKAGES, which only the system has and is not
> > > obtainable by user-installed applications.
>
> > > I think your Intent-based method should work, I believe this is more
> > > or less what the browser does when you download an APK from the
> > > internet. I have two thoughts. First, you haven't specified a proper
> > > Uri, you've specified a file path, try file:///data/data/... Second,
> > > I'm not sure you can place the file in your app's private directory
> > > and have this work, to remove this variable, try placing the APK on
> > > the SD card.
>
> > > As far as removing packages, I'm not sure, I'm not sure 

[android-beginners] Re: How to install and run applications from within another application?

2009-07-02 Thread David Turner
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 6:22 PM, calleandersson
wrote:

>
> Is there somehow possible to simulate that an application has system
> rights in the Emulator?
>

No, and very intentionally.


>
>

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[android-beginners] Re: How to install and run applications from within another application?

2009-07-02 Thread calleandersson

I have been testing with the 'file://' prefix and got the following
results:

When saving an .apk file in the private directory of my application
and trying to invoke the system installation UI, an parse error
occured due to permission issues:
  07-02 07:15:27.826: WARN/zipro(726): Unable to open zip '/data/data/
test.calle.helloworld/files/AndroidHelloWorld.apk': Permission denied
  07-02 07:15:27.826: DEBUG/asset(726): failed to open Zip archive '/
data/data/test.calle.helloworld/files/AndroidHelloWorld.apk'
  07-02 07:15:27.846: WARN/PackageParser(726): Unable to read
AndroidManifest.xml of /data/data/test.calle.helloworld/files/
AndroidHelloWorld.apk
  07-02 07:15:27.846: WARN/PackageParser(726):
java.io.FileNotFoundException: AndroidManifest.xml
   ...
  07-02 07:15:27.856: WARN/PackageInstaller(726): Parse error when
parsing manifest. Discontinuing installation

When I saved the .apk file on the SD card, everything went as supposed
and the system installation UI was displayed.

So far so good. However, I only want a downloaded .apk file to be
installed on the same phone which downloaded it. If the application is
placed on the SD card, wouldn't it be possible to use the same SD card
in another phone (or copy the .apk file to another SD card used by
another phone) and install the application on that phone too? Am I
correct in these assumtions?

With regards to what I wrote above, is it somehow possible to restrict
an application file from beeing installed on any other phone except
the very same phone which downloaded the .apk file (using my
application)? Is system rights needed? I suppose this problem
shouldn't exist if I was able to save the .apk file in the private
directory of my application and then invoke the system install UI on
the file.

Regards,
Calle

On 1 Juli, 18:22, calleandersson  wrote:
> Hi Justin,
>
> Thanks for the tips about the 'file://' prefix and SD card, I will
> look into that tomorrow.
>
> How does the process for retrieving system rights look like? Is it the
> manufacturer of an Android device which decides if an application
> should have system rights? I suppose that that kind of clients must be
> installed/included in the device before it is released or am I wrong?
>
> Is there somehow possible to simulate that an application has system
> rights in the Emulator?
>
> By the way, I was thinking of using the same Intent code to start an
> already installed application but, currently, I'm using the following
> code which seems to work pretty well (and the class name doesn't need
> to be specified):
> Intent intent = getPackageManager().getLaunchIntentForPackage
> (packageName);
> startActivity(intent);
>
> Regards,
> Calle
>
> On 1 Juli, 17:18, "Justin (Google Employee)"  wrote:
>
>
>
> > The package manager way will not work, you need the permission you
> > referenced, INSTALL_PACKAGES, which only the system has and is not
> > obtainable by user-installed applications.
>
> > I think your Intent-based method should work, I believe this is more
> > or less what the browser does when you download an APK from the
> > internet. I have two thoughts. First, you haven't specified a proper
> > Uri, you've specified a file path, try file:///data/data/... Second,
> > I'm not sure you can place the file in your app's private directory
> > and have this work, to remove this variable, try placing the APK on
> > the SD card.
>
> > As far as removing packages, I'm not sure, I'm not sure what Intent
> > you would use to do this, although certainly some Intent exists,
> > albeit probably private/undocumented. You could watch the logcat
> > output when you go into the application manager from settings.
>
> > Cheers,
> > Justin
> > Android Team @ Google
>
> > On Jul 1, 6:22 am, calleandersson  wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
>
> > > I am going to create an application (using Android 1.5) which can
> > > download and install other applications and also be able to remove
> > > these applications when needed. I have tried to do this in two
> > > different ways but havn't had any success:
>
> > > -- A: the PackageManager way --
>
> > > Using the following code:
>
> > > getPackageManager().installPackage(Uri.parse(url));
>
> > > an SecurityException occur since (as I understand) it isn't possible
> > > for an application to be granted the INSTALL_PACKAGES permission
> > > (which is needed by the installPackage() method) unless the program
> > > has system rights.
>
> > > A1. Is it correct that system rights is needed by an application to be
> > > granted INSTALL_PACKAGES permission?
>
> > > A2. How can an application acquire system rights?
>
> > > A3. Will this approach generate some kind of platform specific install
> > > popups (or something like that) or could an application be installed
> > > without any user interaction required?
>
> > > -- B: the Intent way --
>
> > > I download an .apk-file using code similar to the following code:
>
> > > URL sourceUrl = new URL(source);
> > > Object data = sourceUrl.getCo

[android-beginners] Re: How to install and run applications from within another application?

2009-07-01 Thread calleandersson

Hi Justin,

Thanks for the tips about the 'file://' prefix and SD card, I will
look into that tomorrow.

How does the process for retrieving system rights look like? Is it the
manufacturer of an Android device which decides if an application
should have system rights? I suppose that that kind of clients must be
installed/included in the device before it is released or am I wrong?

Is there somehow possible to simulate that an application has system
rights in the Emulator?

By the way, I was thinking of using the same Intent code to start an
already installed application but, currently, I'm using the following
code which seems to work pretty well (and the class name doesn't need
to be specified):
Intent intent = getPackageManager().getLaunchIntentForPackage
(packageName);
startActivity(intent);

Regards,
Calle


On 1 Juli, 17:18, "Justin (Google Employee)"  wrote:
> The package manager way will not work, you need the permission you
> referenced, INSTALL_PACKAGES, which only the system has and is not
> obtainable by user-installed applications.
>
> I think your Intent-based method should work, I believe this is more
> or less what the browser does when you download an APK from the
> internet. I have two thoughts. First, you haven't specified a proper
> Uri, you've specified a file path, try file:///data/data/... Second,
> I'm not sure you can place the file in your app's private directory
> and have this work, to remove this variable, try placing the APK on
> the SD card.
>
> As far as removing packages, I'm not sure, I'm not sure what Intent
> you would use to do this, although certainly some Intent exists,
> albeit probably private/undocumented. You could watch the logcat
> output when you go into the application manager from settings.
>
> Cheers,
> Justin
> Android Team @ Google
>
> On Jul 1, 6:22 am, calleandersson  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I am going to create an application (using Android 1.5) which can
> > download and install other applications and also be able to remove
> > these applications when needed. I have tried to do this in two
> > different ways but havn't had any success:
>
> > -- A: the PackageManager way --
>
> > Using the following code:
>
> > getPackageManager().installPackage(Uri.parse(url));
>
> > an SecurityException occur since (as I understand) it isn't possible
> > for an application to be granted the INSTALL_PACKAGES permission
> > (which is needed by the installPackage() method) unless the program
> > has system rights.
>
> > A1. Is it correct that system rights is needed by an application to be
> > granted INSTALL_PACKAGES permission?
>
> > A2. How can an application acquire system rights?
>
> > A3. Will this approach generate some kind of platform specific install
> > popups (or something like that) or could an application be installed
> > without any user interaction required?
>
> > -- B: the Intent way --
>
> > I download an .apk-file using code similar to the following code:
>
> > URL sourceUrl = new URL(source);
> > Object data = sourceUrl.getContent();
> > String fileName = sourceUrl.getFile().substring(fileName.lastIndexOf
> > ('/') + 1);
> > // create/open file in the 'data/data//files' directory
> > FileOutputStream fos = openFileOutput(fileName, Context.MODE_PRIVATE);
> > int read = 0;
> > byte[] buffer = new byte[512];
> > BufferedInputStream bis = new BufferedInputStream((InputStream) data);
> > do{
> >         read = bis.read(buffer);
> >         if(read > 0){
> >                 fos.write(buffer, 0, read);
> >         }
>
> > }while(read != -1);
>
> > and then i try to invoke an installation of the application by using
> > the following code (which I belive should bring the system UI up for
> > the user to confirm the install):
>
> > Intent intent = new Intent();
> > intent.setAction(android.content.Intent.ACTION_VIEW);
> > intent.setDataAndType(Uri.parse("/data/data/test.calle.helloworld/
> > files/AndroidHelloWorld.apk"), "application/vnd.android.package-
> > archive");
> > startActivity(intent);
>
> > but this only generates an ActivityNotFoundException:
> > 07-01 10:11:05.354: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(2480):
> > android.content.ActivityNotFoundException: No Activity found to handle
> > Intent { action=android.intent.action.VIEW data=/data/data/
> > test.calle.helloworld/files/AndroidHelloWorld.apk type=application/
> > vnd.android.package-archive }
>
> > B1. What am I doing wrong/missing in the attempt to install the
> > downloaded application?
>
> > B2. Will this approach bring the system UI up (for the user to confirm
> > the install) or have I misunderstood something?
>
> > B3. Could I use the same Intent code to start an already installed
> > application or do I need change some input data?
>
> > B4. Is it possible to initiate an uninstall of an application with a
> > similar approach (without beeing granted the REMOVE_PACKAGES
> > permission)?
>
> > B5. Is there some cleaner/easier way of downloading an entire file
> > from the internet to the file system

[android-beginners] Re: How to install and run applications from within another application?

2009-07-01 Thread Justin (Google Employee)

The package manager way will not work, you need the permission you
referenced, INSTALL_PACKAGES, which only the system has and is not
obtainable by user-installed applications.

I think your Intent-based method should work, I believe this is more
or less what the browser does when you download an APK from the
internet. I have two thoughts. First, you haven't specified a proper
Uri, you've specified a file path, try file:///data/data/... Second,
I'm not sure you can place the file in your app's private directory
and have this work, to remove this variable, try placing the APK on
the SD card.

As far as removing packages, I'm not sure, I'm not sure what Intent
you would use to do this, although certainly some Intent exists,
albeit probably private/undocumented. You could watch the logcat
output when you go into the application manager from settings.

Cheers,
Justin
Android Team @ Google

On Jul 1, 6:22 am, calleandersson  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am going to create an application (using Android 1.5) which can
> download and install other applications and also be able to remove
> these applications when needed. I have tried to do this in two
> different ways but havn't had any success:
>
> -- A: the PackageManager way --
>
> Using the following code:
>
> getPackageManager().installPackage(Uri.parse(url));
>
> an SecurityException occur since (as I understand) it isn't possible
> for an application to be granted the INSTALL_PACKAGES permission
> (which is needed by the installPackage() method) unless the program
> has system rights.
>
> A1. Is it correct that system rights is needed by an application to be
> granted INSTALL_PACKAGES permission?
>
> A2. How can an application acquire system rights?
>
> A3. Will this approach generate some kind of platform specific install
> popups (or something like that) or could an application be installed
> without any user interaction required?
>
> -- B: the Intent way --
>
> I download an .apk-file using code similar to the following code:
>
> URL sourceUrl = new URL(source);
> Object data = sourceUrl.getContent();
> String fileName = sourceUrl.getFile().substring(fileName.lastIndexOf
> ('/') + 1);
> // create/open file in the 'data/data//files' directory
> FileOutputStream fos = openFileOutput(fileName, Context.MODE_PRIVATE);
> int read = 0;
> byte[] buffer = new byte[512];
> BufferedInputStream bis = new BufferedInputStream((InputStream) data);
> do{
>         read = bis.read(buffer);
>         if(read > 0){
>                 fos.write(buffer, 0, read);
>         }
>
> }while(read != -1);
>
> and then i try to invoke an installation of the application by using
> the following code (which I belive should bring the system UI up for
> the user to confirm the install):
>
> Intent intent = new Intent();
> intent.setAction(android.content.Intent.ACTION_VIEW);
> intent.setDataAndType(Uri.parse("/data/data/test.calle.helloworld/
> files/AndroidHelloWorld.apk"), "application/vnd.android.package-
> archive");
> startActivity(intent);
>
> but this only generates an ActivityNotFoundException:
> 07-01 10:11:05.354: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(2480):
> android.content.ActivityNotFoundException: No Activity found to handle
> Intent { action=android.intent.action.VIEW data=/data/data/
> test.calle.helloworld/files/AndroidHelloWorld.apk type=application/
> vnd.android.package-archive }
>
> B1. What am I doing wrong/missing in the attempt to install the
> downloaded application?
>
> B2. Will this approach bring the system UI up (for the user to confirm
> the install) or have I misunderstood something?
>
> B3. Could I use the same Intent code to start an already installed
> application or do I need change some input data?
>
> B4. Is it possible to initiate an uninstall of an application with a
> similar approach (without beeing granted the REMOVE_PACKAGES
> permission)?
>
> B5. Is there some cleaner/easier way of downloading an entire file
> from the internet to the file system and should I use
> 'Context.MODE_PRIVATE' when I call the openFileOutput() method?
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