[android-developers] Android Pirate Site
I stumbled upon this site offering 1000's of Android apps for free (including mine!). http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/ap6z0/redditapps_a_1000_listing_of_android_applications/ http://www.mediafire.com/redditapps How do I report this to Google? How do we shut them down? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site
I've been in "the business" for quite some time, and I know that drill. But I do not accept your reply as a useful response to this problem. This problem is damaging to the entire development community as a whole as well as the forward progress of the platform. Few developers will be interested in building on a platform which has a reputation for easy piracy. Their development efforts will be focused on other platforms, and Android will suffer from less innovation and fewer useful apps. I've also found piracy on other sites, including droidfanz.com, and this forum: http://www.ipmart-forum.com/archive/index.php/t-337082.html I'd like to know what Google is doing about this, and who to forward abuse complaints to. On Jan 16, 11:33 am, schwiz wrote: > shut one down 3 more pop up, its an unavoidable part of software > development. > > On Jan 16, 10:13 am, MakeMobile > wrote: > > > I stumbled upon this site offering 1000's of Android apps for free > > (including mine!). > > >http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/ap6z0/redditapps_a_1000_list... > > > How do I report this to Google? How do we shut them down? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site
On Jan 16, 1:08 pm, Wayne Wenthin wrote: > My question is why would google do anything. These are your apps. You hold > copyright not google. You have to do something. Unless you are finding > Market or Maps on these sites google could care less and rightly so. I believe I've already answered the question of why Google would do something about this, but I'll say it again. Piracy damages the platform as a whole. Google cares about this kind of thing because it slows the progress of the platform as a whole. That's why they released the Nexus One -- to advance the platform by gaining new developers and users. I'd be surprised if Google did not have people working on this. But my specific inquiry is who can I talk to about this? who or where do I report this? And if it does not yet exist, Google should definitely set up a system for reporting these abuses. On another note, I think the common attitude of apathy surrounding this issue is shocking. I am fully aware that it's not possible within reason to completely eliminate this problem -- and I do not expect that. However that does not mean we should ignore the issue on the premise that its "too difficult" a problem to deal with. This is especially problematic for small time developers who don't have the resources (time or financial) to do much about this. I believe it's these small time developers who provide the most value to the platform -- there are far more small time developers than large organizations, and I believe they provide the bulk of the innovation. So lack of a robust support system for these developers is a big problem. I'd like to steer the discussion in a more positive direction. So lets go guys -- resources, information, options... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Android Pirate Site
On Jan 16, 2:46 pm, Mark Murphy wrote: > MakeMobile wrote: > > I believe I've already answered the question of why Google would do > > something about this, but I'll say it again. Piracy damages the > > platform as a whole. Google cares about this kind of thing because it > > slows the progress of the platform as a whole. > > That is debatable. For every force (developers electing to abandon one > platform with piracy for another platform with piracy) there can be a > countervailing force (more consumer interest because of wider free app > availability). While I agree with your overall point that there are dualities to perceived problems with something as complex as a platform or OS, I do not agree with your idea that there would be more consumer interest because of the increased availability of pirated apps. I hardly believe that the majority of consumers consider the availability of pirated apps among the important things to consider when looking to migrate to a new device. > > > But my > > specific inquiry is who can I talk to about this? who or where do I > > report this? > > If you have an app on the Android Market, and you are using their copy > protection, and you find your app is pirated, complain to the Android > Market (via their support forums) that their copy protection did not > help you. I suspect you'll find a few posts to that effect out there > already, though I haven't looked. > I'll certainly do that, but I was wondering if there is a more formal system for reporting such abuses. > > On another note, I think the common attitude of apathy surrounding > > this issue is shocking. > > I think an attitude of not *worrying* much about this issue is decidedly > healthy. > It's not a matter of worrying too much, but a matter of keeping it in check. I think there are ways to improve what we have. Certainly Market could do a better job. > For those who have been living under a rock for the past two decades, > digital goods get pirated, plain and simple... > IMHO, developers for all platforms can take three possible approaches to > piracy: > > 1. Embrace piracy, by coming up with business strategies that do not > require payment for individual copies of apps. > > 2. Ignore piracy, treating it as a manageable loss (akin to "breakage" > in a retail store), and focusing on serving those customers that do pay. > > 3. Have their blood pressure climb to unsafe levels. Again, I think ignoring such problems is not a feasible approach. When we sit up and take notice, it leads to discussion, and then implementation of better solutions. To be clear, I expect piracy to exist. In fact, I think any developer who has not considered piracy as they build out their product is just not being realistic. However, burying your head in the sand does not make a problem go away. > If you are truly serious about app development, get truly serious about > choosing a business model you'll be happy with. With luck, you'll settle > on one for which piracy is not an issue. Agreed. But some of us do not have the option to implement a business model less susceptible to piracy. Some applications are just not conducive to the models which do well to avoid piracy. There are strategies which a developer can employ to make piracy more difficult. The most common of which might be some form of "call home" functionality. But this wont work for my application (and many others). Asking for internet access on a stand-alone app would be silly. I believe it would provide an additional barrier to acceptance that I am not willing to construct. Mr Benjamin made a good post on this point, so I wont bother repeating it. As the platform moves forward, this will become a much lager and more serious issue. If we want to continue to attract great developers who make great apps -- and the platform to continue to be competitive -- we must think proactively about such problems. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Unable to Download Paid App Upgrade
It doesnt seem to be a paid apps only problem. I am the developer of CoursePro. I have one paid version and have tried several demo versions on the market. The download problem is not happening for the paid version but is for all of the demo versions I've tried. The first demo I had out worked perfectly for a while. I was getting good reviews, people were downloading. Then I updated it. After that people were complaining about a force close. I investigated and the crash was "can not open database file". This problem apparently had something to do with the copy protection system in the market. Even trying to open the database inside "adb shell" returned a permission denied error. This is probably a separate bug that Google needs to look into. You cant upload a non-protected app and then update it as protected. The app will no longer have permission to open the database that it created itself. I then re-updated the demo in the market and removed the copy protection. After that all I get is users complaining that it wont download and flagging CoursePro with 1 star. Now, we cant even update our paid app because we are afraid to break it, and most users cant even try my demo before they buy! On Feb 22, 3:38 pm, joshbeck wrote: > This is a very bad situation indeed as my app relies on regular > updates! > I hope they prioritize this. > > On Feb 22, 2:30 pm, Stoyan Damov wrote: > > >http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/label?lid=7dc8a5... > > > Basically, you're not the only one. A reinstall helps in most cases. > > > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 9:52 PM, joshbeck wrote: > > > > Hello All, > > > -I have a paid app on the market. > > > -I uploaded an upgrade > > > -The market download manager hangs on 'Starting Download' when I try > > > to download the newest version. > > > > -Has anyone experienced this? > > > > (If the problem is resolved shortly, I'll post here.) > > > > Thanks, > > > Josh Beck --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Neither user nor current process has android.permission.SET_PREFERRED_APPLICATIONS
Hello, I'd like to revisit a topic that was previously posted, but never resolved. http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/565d89d354691a30 "Neither user 10002 nor current process has android.permission.SET_PREFERRED_APPLICATIONS" I'm running into the same problem as the original poster. Currently my development is blocked until this problem is resolved. What is causing this problem and how do I resolve it? If you need more information about the application I'm writing, I'm happy to provide it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Neither user nor current process has android.permission.SET_PREFERRED_APPLICATIONS
What do you mean by not supported? Do you mean that you should not be able to do this for any TabActivity class? What is to stop other developers from falling into the same trap? Also, if this is the case, it seems to be impossible to create a new call-log application because one would have to re-implement the entire phone application, which would be Ok if that were possible. But, looking at the code it seems that the phone application has access to privileged code, making writing a 3rd party phone app imposible. So it is impossible to completely replace the default phone application? On Mar 5, 3:13 pm, Dianne Hackborn wrote: > Ah yeah. This is either a bug, or just not something that is supported. We > will change Dialtacs to not use implicit intents for its tabs, since > replacing them just won't work. This will avoid running into such problems > involving it. > > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:53 AM, DanM wrote: > > > I'd also like to point out that there is a bug in the android system > > when handling intents for subactivities. > > > I created an application that responds to the same intent as the call- > > log portion of the phone application (the intent that is started when > > the call-log tab is selected within that app). Normally, the activity > > that is started via this intent runs inside the call-log tab of the > > phone application, but if the activity resolver runs, the activity > > started thereafter runs as a regular full-screen activity and not > > inside of the call-log tab of the phone application. This happens no > > matter which activity you choose to start with the resolver, even if > > you select the default activity that usually runs with the phone > > application. It seems to me this has to be a problem with the activity > > resolver. > > > The problem with SET_PREFERRED_APPLICATIONS may be related to this. It > > happens if you select the "use by default for this action" check box, > > and then select one of the activities. The application then crashes > > with the error above. > > > -Dan > > > On Mar 3, 11:38 am, MakeMobile > > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > I'd like to revisit a topic that was previously posted, but never > > > resolved. > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/threa... > > > > "Neither user 10002 nor current process has > > > android.permission.SET_PREFERRED_APPLICATIONS" > > > > I'm running into the same problem as the original poster. Currently my > > > development is blocked until this problem is resolved. What is causing > > > this problem and how do I resolve it? If you need more information > > > about the application I'm writing, I'm happy to provide it. > > -- > Dianne Hackborn > Android framework engineer > hack...@android.com > > Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to > provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public > forums, where I and others can see and answer them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
