Re: [android-developers] Google Drive says Action Bars on the bottom are ok?

[Ken]

On Monday, December 16, 2013 5:47:40 PM UTC-5, Nathan wrote:
>
> I may be tempted to try the hamburger menu, I mean navigation drawer. 
> You'd have to train users to click on it, but then, you would have to do 
> that with the options menu. 
>

hamburger menu...LOL :-)

I always thought that was for jumping to alternate parts of the application 
or to use to stuff miscellaneous stuff in like your contact info, about 
dialog, etcaka, a replacement for the viewpager tabs + to get rid of 
junk in the options menu.
It didn't seem to be a place for dynamically changing stuff that's more of 
a contextmenu that the options menu should be used for.

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Re: [android-developers] Google Drive says Action Bars on the bottom are ok?

[Nathan]

On Sunday, December 15, 2013 6:29:11 PM UTC-8, Ken wrote:
>
>
>
> On Saturday, December 14, 2013 7:46:18 PM UTC-5, Douglas Drumond wrote:
>>
>> split action bar?
>> https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/actionbar.html#SplitBar
>>
>
> Yep, you can do it w/ that, but what Google's doing in their apps is 
> something else...it's actually another panel that shifts up when you scroll 
> around.
>
> They are probably trying out a new design pattern that isn't a pattern 
yet.  
 

> Still, I think the split action bar isn't really recommended.  
>

I haven't gotten much leverage out of the split action bar. I'd hoped I 
could put more icons there to avoid the options menu, but no, it just moves 
them to the bottom. 

I guess the advantage of multiple design standards is that you can pick the 
one you like. 

The design pattern I am hating the most at the moment is the options menu. 
In a way, its worse than the menu button from 2X days, because it is 
broken. The options menu icon won't show when the user has a menu button. 
Users have no idea that they have one, particularly because Samsung has 
made them obscure and mysterious and dark until pressed. If users couldn't 
find the menu button when it stuck up and said MENU, they aren't going to 
find it now.  

I may be tempted to try the hamburger menu, I mean navigation drawer. You'd 
have to train users to click on it, but then, you would have to do that 
with the options menu. 

Nathan

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Re: [android-developers] Google Drive says Action Bars on the bottom are ok?

[Ken]

On Saturday, December 14, 2013 7:46:18 PM UTC-5, Douglas Drumond wrote:
>
> split action bar?
> https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/actionbar.html#SplitBar
>

Yep, you can do it w/ that, but what Google's doing in their apps is 
something else...it's actually another panel that shifts up when you scroll 
around.

Still, I think the split action bar isn't really recommended.  Or at least 
it wasn't back in the Honeycomb days when they were pushing the soft 
buttons.  So confusing...or they're trying to add back the pre-Honeycomb 
options menu at the bottom that they told us to get rid of when they added 
soft buttons :-P

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Re: [android-developers] Google Drive says Action Bars on the bottom are ok?

[Doug]

Hamburger menu.

On Saturday, December 14, 2013 7:17:44 PM UTC-8, Nathan wrote:
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> Somewhat related. 
>
> What's that thing called on Gmail where they got three bars in the upper 
> left that slides out to become a menu on the left? 
>

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Re: [android-developers] Google Drive says Action Bars on the bottom are ok?

[Nathan]

On Saturday, December 14, 2013 7:17:44 PM UTC-8, Nathan wrote:
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> Somewhat related. 
>
> What's that thing called on Gmail where they got three bars in the upper 
> left that slides out to become a menu on the left? 
>

Ok, it's a navigation drawer. Back to subject at hand, this doesn't appear 
related. 

Nathan 

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Re: [android-developers] Google Drive says Action Bars on the bottom are ok?

[Nathan]

Somewhat related. 

What's that thing called on Gmail where they got three bars in the upper 
left that slides out to become a menu on the left? 

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Re: [android-developers] Google Drive says Action Bars on the bottom are ok?

[Douglas Drumond]

split action bar?
https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/actionbar.html#SplitBar


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2013/12/12 Ken 

>
> On Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:40:45 PM UTC-5, Kostya Vasilyev wrote:
>>
>> Do you mean the panel that slides up and down as you scroll the documents
>> list?
>> Google+ does this too.
>>
>
> Yep...the panel at the bottom w/ the Camera button.  I thought Google said
> not to do this? :-P
> It's a weird UI pattern.  Almost seems to conflict w/ the other UI pattern
> where the softkeys (back/home/etc.) hide when you're viewing content.
> Scroll down and the camera panel shows up...touch the bottom of the screen
> and the softkeys show up.  It works fine if your device has hardkeys for
> the home button like a Galaxy S3, but doesn't work well on the N7.
> There's even a library for it named AndroidSlidingUpPanel.
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Re: [android-developers] Google Drive says Action Bars on the bottom are ok?

[Ken]

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:40:45 PM UTC-5, Kostya Vasilyev wrote:
>
> Do you mean the panel that slides up and down as you scroll the documents 
> list?
> Google+ does this too.
>

Yep...the panel at the bottom w/ the Camera button.  I thought Google said 
not to do this? :-P
It's a weird UI pattern.  Almost seems to conflict w/ the other UI pattern 
where the softkeys (back/home/etc.) hide when you're viewing content.  
Scroll down and the camera panel shows up...touch the bottom of the screen 
and the softkeys show up.  It works fine if your device has hardkeys for 
the home button like a Galaxy S3, but doesn't work well on the N7.
There's even a library for it named AndroidSlidingUpPanel.

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Re: [android-developers] Google Drive says Action Bars on the bottom are ok?

[Kostya Vasilyev]

Do you mean the panel that slides up and down as you scroll the documents
list?

Google+ does this too.

I guess it's the fashionable UI pattern du jour.

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2013/12/12 Ken 

> Just noticed this recently...Google Drive has a few action bar items at
> the bottom.
>
> I thought we weren't supposed to put action bar items at the bottom
> because it's confusing to users with the soft button bar (with back, home,
> etc.) down there as well?
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[android-developers] Google Drive says Action Bars on the bottom are ok?

[Ken]

Just noticed this recently...Google Drive has a few action bar items at the 
bottom.

I thought we weren't supposed to put action bar items at the bottom because 
it's confusing to users with the soft button bar (with back, home, etc.) 
down there as well?

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