[android-developers] Re: Almost nobody is rating my app.

[albnok]

Man I most certainly don't click Rate, no matter what, I just want to
get in the game or whatever app.

I guess they have to feel compelled to want to rate it?

On Feb 8, 11:44 pm, decastro  wrote:
> I have recently released a game called "tangle twister" to the market.
> I have spent a little on admob advertising so now have 650 downloads.
> But only two people have rated it so far. I wonder if I'm doing
> something wrong to get so few ratings.
>
> At the moment I bring up a prompt for the user to rate after they have
> run the app at least three times and have just completed a level
> higher than three (very easy). I only prompt if there is currently an
> internet connection.There is also a "Rate" option that appears if the
> users press the menu button during game play.
>
> I guess there are a few possibilities:
>
> A) I have a bug in the code which results in me seeing the prompt, but
> other users not seeing it.
> B) The wording on the prompt is not encouraging enough.
> C) People simply don't like the app and never play long enough to get
> the prompt.
> D) I have made some market configuration error which results in
> ratings being lost.
> E) 2 out of 650 is actually what I should expect for this type of
> game.
> F) Something else.
>
> Any ideas?

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[android-developers] Re: Almost nobody is rating my app.

[John Coryat]

Ratings are an odd thing on the Android market. My app has over 3,000,000 
downloads but only has about 20,000 ratings. That works out to 0.7% of 
users rate the app. I think this is pretty typical. Unless you have a 
really excellent or really terrible app, people won't rate it.

For 650 downloads, I would expect four ratings. Two is a bit low but that 
could mean your app is neither compelling or awful. In a way, that's a 
compliment for a new app.

The best way to increase the number of ratings is to improve the excitement 
generated by your app. My app is a weather radar app and during the major 
storms last year it received hundreds of ratings in a week. This was 
because it was actually saving people from getting wet, getting clobbered 
by hail and even their lives in a couple of cases. That's excitement.

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[android-developers] Re: Almost nobody is rating my app.

[FiltrSoft]

Yea, unless your app does something completely out of the ordinary,
you will get very few ratings.  The rating system is a little wonky,
where people have to go back to the market to rate it, and it's
probably that extra step that people don't want to bother with.  The
best thing you can do is maybe put a link somewhere in your app to
rate your app and just hope for the best.

On Feb 9, 1:36 pm, John Coryat  wrote:
> Ratings are an odd thing on the Android market. My app has over 3,000,000
> downloads but only has about 20,000 ratings. That works out to 0.7% of
> users rate the app. I think this is pretty typical. Unless you have a
> really excellent or really terrible app, people won't rate it.
>
> For 650 downloads, I would expect four ratings. Two is a bit low but that
> could mean your app is neither compelling or awful. In a way, that's a
> compliment for a new app.
>
> The best way to increase the number of ratings is to improve the excitement
> generated by your app. My app is a weather radar app and during the major
> storms last year it received hundreds of ratings in a week. This was
> because it was actually saving people from getting wet, getting clobbered
> by hail and even their lives in a couple of cases. That's excitement.
>
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[android-developers] Re: Almost nobody is rating my app.

[Zsolt Vasvari]

And apparently there is a whole new crop of
> so called 'malware' (mostly filled with ads, etc.) that require you to
> give them a 5-star rating to continue playing/watching, etc. Most people
>  apparently fall for it, and those apps get a high ranking. Eventually
> most are removed, but I would be wary of any app that requires you
> to rate it.

Can you ellaborate on this?  I suspect one of my competitors is doing
us.  After 800 ratings in 2 YEARS, they got 800 5-star ratings in 2
WEEKS.  So something is going on there, but I don't know what, or how
to catch them.

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[android-developers] Re: Almost nobody is rating my app.

[Jim Andresakis]

I know it wouldnt show up in the market place but you could put
something in your app that allowed the users to message you directly
like a form that takes a few strings and sends them to your database
or email or something. Then you could at least get feed back and at
that point you could offer in app content without breaking market
rules.

On Feb 9, 9:55 pm, Nikolay Elenkov  wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Zsolt Vasvari  wrote:
> > And apparently there is a whole new crop of
> >> so called 'malware' (mostly filled with ads, etc.) that require you to
> >> give them a 5-star rating to continue playing/watching, etc. Most people
> >>  apparently fall for it, and those apps get a high ranking. Eventually
> >> most are removed, but I would be wary of any app that requires you
> >> to rate it.
>
> > Can you ellaborate on this?  I suspect one of my competitors is doing
> > us.  After 800 ratings in 2 YEARS, they got 800 5-star ratings in 2
> > WEEKS.  So something is going on there, but I don't know what, or how
> > to catch them.
>
> Can't find the link right now, but the fake Instagram app made the news:
>
> http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/photography/instagram...
>
> It got a whole lot of rankings in no time, apparently most users just though
> 'if it has that much ratings, it must be safe', and installed it. Of
> course, the
> 'malware' hype was vastly exaggerated, apparently it was just using
> rather aggressive ads.
>
> Have you tried using the app in question? If you use it for a while it
> might prompt you to rate it (which is not a bad thing, IMHO, as long
> it doesn't *require* it).

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[android-developers] Re: Almost nobody is rating my app.

[niko20]

Some apps, like an app named "Amuse", pop up a message saying that
they will hide the ads for a while if you click on it.

I'm not sure if that's legal or against Google's policy, but it's a
brilliant strategy to get more click through, because even I will
click an ad to get rid of ads for a few hours at a time.


-niko

On Feb 10, 3:04 am, Jim Andresakis  wrote:
> I know it wouldnt show up in the market place but you could put
> something in your app that allowed the users to message you directly
> like a form that takes a few strings and sends them to your database
> or email or something. Then you could at least get feed back and at
> that point you could offer in app content without breaking market
> rules.
>
> On Feb 9, 9:55 pm, Nikolay Elenkov  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Zsolt Vasvari  wrote:
> > > And apparently there is a whole new crop of
> > >> so called 'malware' (mostly filled with ads, etc.) that require you to
> > >> give them a 5-star rating to continue playing/watching, etc. Most people
> > >>  apparently fall for it, and those apps get a high ranking. Eventually
> > >> most are removed, but I would be wary of any app that requires you
> > >> to rate it.
>
> > > Can you ellaborate on this?  I suspect one of my competitors is doing
> > > us.  After 800 ratings in 2 YEARS, they got 800 5-star ratings in 2
> > > WEEKS.  So something is going on there, but I don't know what, or how
> > > to catch them.
>
> > Can't find the link right now, but the fake Instagram app made the news:
>
> >http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/photography/instagram...
>
> > It got a whole lot of rankings in no time, apparently most users just though
> > 'if it has that much ratings, it must be safe', and installed it. Of
> > course, the
> > 'malware' hype was vastly exaggerated, apparently it was just using
> > rather aggressive ads.
>
> > Have you tried using the app in question? If you use it for a while it
> > might prompt you to rate it (which is not a bad thing, IMHO, as long
> > it doesn't *require* it).

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[android-developers] Re: Almost nobody is rating my app.

[John Coryat]

>
> Some apps, like an app named "Amuse", pop up a message saying that 
> they will hide the ads for a while if you click on it. 
>
> I'm not sure if that's legal or against Google's policy, but it's a 
> brilliant strategy to get more click through, because even I will 
> click an ad to get rid of ads for a few hours at a time. 
>
> Brilliant until they get their advertising account suspended! It's 
certainly against the best interest of the advertiser and undoubtedly 
against the terms of the ad provider to tempt users to click on ads solely 
to get rid of them. I suggest not using this "brilliant" strategy.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Almost nobody is rating my app.

[Mark Phillips]

Could you release an update and offer something for the rating? Additional
levels, characters, some way to personalize the game for the user?

Mark
On Feb 9, 2012 9:46 AM, "albnok"  wrote:

> Man I most certainly don't click Rate, no matter what, I just want to
> get in the game or whatever app.
>
> I guess they have to feel compelled to want to rate it?
>
> On Feb 8, 11:44 pm, decastro  wrote:
> > I have recently released a game called "tangle twister" to the market.
> > I have spent a little on admob advertising so now have 650 downloads.
> > But only two people have rated it so far. I wonder if I'm doing
> > something wrong to get so few ratings.
> >
> > At the moment I bring up a prompt for the user to rate after they have
> > run the app at least three times and have just completed a level
> > higher than three (very easy). I only prompt if there is currently an
> > internet connection.There is also a "Rate" option that appears if the
> > users press the menu button during game play.
> >
> > I guess there are a few possibilities:
> >
> > A) I have a bug in the code which results in me seeing the prompt, but
> > other users not seeing it.
> > B) The wording on the prompt is not encouraging enough.
> > C) People simply don't like the app and never play long enough to get
> > the prompt.
> > D) I have made some market configuration error which results in
> > ratings being lost.
> > E) 2 out of 650 is actually what I should expect for this type of
> > game.
> > F) Something else.
> >
> > Any ideas?
>
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Almost nobody is rating my app.

[a1]

>
> Could you release an update and offer something for the rating? Additional 
> levels, characters, some way to personalize the game for the user? 


Which is, of course, violation of market content policy terms (
http://www.android.com/us/developer-content-policy.html  see "Spam and 
Placement" section: "Developers also should not attempt to change the 
placement of any Product in the Store by rating an application multiple 
times, or by offering incentives to users to rate an application with 
higher or lower ratings.")

To OP, 1 rating for ca. 400-500 user is what I'm seeing in my free games, 
also take a quick look at other free games on market it's looks like this 
is more or less what you should expect.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Almost nobody is rating my app.

[Mark Phillips]

My apologies for recommending something against the market policies. I was
not aware of that policy. I am just starting out, so I have not gotten that
far in the process to actually put an app  on the market.

BTW, I was not advocating making an offer for a better rating. I meant an
incentive for the user to just rate the game.

Mark
On Feb 9, 2012 11:08 AM, "a1"  wrote:

> Could you release an update and offer something for the rating? Additional
>> levels, characters, some way to personalize the game for the user?
>
>
> Which is, of course, violation of market content policy terms (
> http://www.android.com/us/developer-content-policy.html  see "Spam and
> Placement" section: "Developers also should not attempt to change the
> placement of any Product in the Store by rating an application multiple
> times, or by offering incentives to users to rate an application with
> higher or lower ratings.")
>
> To OP, 1 rating for ca. 400-500 user is what I'm seeing in my free games,
> also take a quick look at other free games on market it's looks like this
> is more or less what you should expect.
>
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Almost nobody is rating my app.

[Nikolay Elenkov]

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:18 AM, Mark Phillips
 wrote:
> My apologies for recommending something against the market policies. I was
> not aware of that policy. I am just starting out, so I have not gotten that
> far in the process to actually put an app  on the market.
>
> BTW, I was not advocating making an offer for a better rating. I meant an
> incentive for the user to just rate the game.

There is actually now way to know if they rated your app or not, so this
wouldn't work anyway. And apparently there is a whole new crop of
so called 'malware' (mostly filled with ads, etc.) that require you to
give them a 5-star rating to continue playing/watching, etc. Most people
 apparently fall for it, and those apps get a high ranking. Eventually
most are removed, but I would be wary of any app that requires you
to rate it.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Almost nobody is rating my app.

[Jim Graham]

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 03:24:51AM +0900, Nikolay Elenkov wrote:

> so called 'malware' (mostly filled with ads, etc.) that require you to
> give them a 5-star rating to continue playing/watching, etc. Most people
>  apparently fall for it, and those apps get a high ranking.

I seem to recall seeing one like that.  I had a VERY different
response  It started with an "[self-censored] YOU MORON" and
ended with an uninstall.  Problem solved (at least, on my end).
Oh, and I think I gave it a 1-star rating, too.  :-)

Later,
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Almost nobody is rating my app.

[Ted Scott]

As long as you are not tying the enhancement to a rating level, I don't 
think that would violate the policy.


Now telling whether or not someone actually rated the app is a different 
issue.


On 2/9/2012 1:18 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:


My apologies for recommending something against the market policies. I 
was not aware of that policy. I am just starting out, so I have not 
gotten that far in the process to actually put an app  on the market.


BTW, I was not advocating making an offer for a better rating. I meant 
an incentive for the user to just rate the game.


Mark

On Feb 9, 2012 11:08 AM, "a1" > wrote:


Could you release an update and offer something for the
rating? Additional levels, characters, some way to personalize
the game for the user? 



Which is, of course, violation of market content policy terms
(http://www.android.com/us/developer-content-policy.html  see
"Spam and Placement" section: "Developers also should not attempt
to change the placement of any Product in the Store by rating an
application multiple times, or by offering incentives to users to
rate an application with higher or lower ratings.")

To OP, 1 rating for ca. 400-500 user is what I'm seeing in my free
games, also take a quick look at other free games on market it's
looks like this is more or less what you should expect.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Almost nobody is rating my app.

[Nikolay Elenkov]

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Zsolt Vasvari  wrote:
> And apparently there is a whole new crop of
>> so called 'malware' (mostly filled with ads, etc.) that require you to
>> give them a 5-star rating to continue playing/watching, etc. Most people
>>  apparently fall for it, and those apps get a high ranking. Eventually
>> most are removed, but I would be wary of any app that requires you
>> to rate it.
>
> Can you ellaborate on this?  I suspect one of my competitors is doing
> us.  After 800 ratings in 2 YEARS, they got 800 5-star ratings in 2
> WEEKS.  So something is going on there, but I don't know what, or how
> to catch them.
>

Can't find the link right now, but the fake Instagram app made the news:

http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/photography/instagram_byzxr.html

It got a whole lot of rankings in no time, apparently most users just though
'if it has that much ratings, it must be safe', and installed it. Of
course, the
'malware' hype was vastly exaggerated, apparently it was just using
rather aggressive ads.

Have you tried using the app in question? If you use it for a while it
might prompt you to rate it (which is not a bad thing, IMHO, as long
it doesn't *require* it).

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