Re: [android-developers] Re: Android MVC Framework

2011-02-15 Thread Luiz Henrique
Hi,

   actually Veritatis I'm looking for a way to pack my android application
like is used by the best pratices of MVC pattern. I don´t know if you
understood, but I miss a better way to organize the native code of android.

Thanks,
Henrique

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 05:40, Indicator Veritatis wrote:

> Unfortunately, the term 'MVC' has suffered some corruption over the
> years: purists, especially Smalltalk aficionados, insist that unless
> you do it the Smalltalk way, it is not MVC. Others use the term more
> loosely, many too loosely.
>
> In any case, some of the latter DO say that Android's SDK meets the
> MVC model already. See, for example,
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2925054/mvc-pattern-in-android
>
> Or do you have something specific in mind you want to see in an "MVC
> Framework" that you do not see in Android?
>
> On Feb 10, 8:40 am, Luiz Henrique  wrote:
> > Hello Guys,
> >
> >   I'm starting in the Android world and searching some MVC Framework
> to
> > build an application in my company. Is there any MVC Framework that you
> > could recomend me ?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Henrique
>
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Re: [android-developers] Re: Android MVC Framework

2011-02-12 Thread Mark Murphy
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Kevin Duffey  wrote:
> I am a little confused about this android MVC. I always associate MVC with a
> server side architecture, such as Struts, or Spring Web.

MVC was originally a client-side architecture. In fact, it originated
with Smalltalk:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model%E2%80%93View%E2%80%93Controller

(damn, that's an ugly URL)

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Android MVC Framework

2011-02-12 Thread Kevin Duffey
I am a little confused about this android MVC. I always associate MVC with a
server side architecture, such as Struts, or Spring Web. I thought at first
the OP was asking about building a web server on an android device using
MVC. So I am not sure I see how MVC is relevant to android apps themselves
per se?

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Streets Of Boston
wrote:

> First, welcome to the Android dev community! :-)
>
> Whether the Android is MVC framework or not, why are you specifically
> searching for one?
> I would just learn the Android SDK, its concepts and start creating my app
> that fits these concepts, MVC or not.
>
> But if your question is a question whether Android allows/helps you to
> seperate data from controller(s) and view(s), then the answer is 'yes' (see
> Indicator's post earlier). :-)
> Still, you could code you app in such a way that would violate the MVC
> principles.
>
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[android-developers] Re: Android MVC Framework

2011-02-12 Thread Streets Of Boston
First, welcome to the Android dev community! :-)
 
Whether the Android is MVC framework or not, why are you specifically 
searching for one?
I would just learn the Android SDK, its concepts and start creating my app 
that fits these concepts, MVC or not.
 
But if your question is a question whether Android allows/helps you to 
seperate data from controller(s) and view(s), then the answer is 'yes' (see 
Indicator's post earlier). :-)
Still, you could code you app in such a way that would violate the MVC 
principles.

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[android-developers] Re: Android MVC Framework

2011-02-12 Thread Indicator Veritatis
Unfortunately, the term 'MVC' has suffered some corruption over the
years: purists, especially Smalltalk aficionados, insist that unless
you do it the Smalltalk way, it is not MVC. Others use the term more
loosely, many too loosely.

In any case, some of the latter DO say that Android's SDK meets the
MVC model already. See, for example, 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2925054/mvc-pattern-in-android

Or do you have something specific in mind you want to see in an "MVC
Framework" that you do not see in Android?

On Feb 10, 8:40 am, Luiz Henrique  wrote:
> Hello Guys,
>
>       I'm starting in the Android world and searching some MVC Framework to
> build an application in my company. Is there any MVC Framework that you
> could recomend me ?
>
> Cheers,
> Henrique

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