[android-developers] Re: Android Market 1.6

2009-10-04 Thread Wenwei Cai

I do not really understand the sorting criteria in Just In list of
Android Market. I saw some apps floats to the top of this category,
but obviously they are not just in apps.

Best regards,
-stanley

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Robert Green rbgrn@gmail.com wrote:

 2 Things that could seriously benefit Android market users:

 1)  Hot this week or month
 - Like mcgowen said - this would allow for new apps being launched to
 actually be able to stand out if they're really good.
 2)  A recommender.  Did you enjoy this app/game?  Try this other app/
 game!  Users are already rating things on a 5 point scale.  Using any
 standard recommender algorithm would work.


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[android-developers] Re: Android Market 1.6

2009-10-04 Thread Jason Van Anden
Of course the other problem is that there are clearly

devs gaming the system.  In entertainment this is particularly a bummer.  I
wish I could switch categories  BubbleBeats is surrounded by sexy girls
and 'soundboards' ... both of which contain collections of content that
seems to violate copyright laws.  Some version of this seems to always be on
top of 'just in'.

Despite getting a few really nice reviews the biggest bump I get in terms of
downloads is when my app is at the top of the 'just in' list.

On Oct 4, 2009 8:54 AM, Wenwei Cai stanley.w@gmail.com wrote:


I do not really understand the sorting criteria in Just In list of
Android Market. I saw some apps floats to the top of this category,
but obviously they are not just in apps.

Best regards,
-stanley

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Robert Green rbgrn@gmail.com wrote: 
 2 Things that could ...

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[android-developers] Re: Android Market 1.6

2009-09-15 Thread mcgowen007

Whichever criterion Google wants to use is fine, I just think it would
benefit both us developers and the end users to see hot apps for
different time periods.  An app that is brand new is thrown into the
mix with all of the other new apps on the one tab, and it's hard to
tell which ones are worthwhile.  If the user could filter the most
popular (some mix of downloads, active installs, star-rating, etc.) of
the day or week, it would be a very powerful and useful tool.  I offer
this suggestion up because I would use it all the time as an android
user, but would love even more to see it as a developer.  And
furthermore, I don't believe it is a huge effort for developers of the
market 1.6 upgrade.  When a user clicks on Top Paid or Top Free
for instance, hitting the 'menu' button will give them a time-filter
option.  It's a pretty simple tweak I hope they consider.

I would love to hear other opinions or comments (especially from
someone from the Googleplex ;).

-Graham


On Sep 5, 5:42 pm, Dan Sherman impact...@gmail.com wrote:
 Gotcha,

 Still the same effect :)  Apps at the top of the list will have a larger
 number of downloads (and assuming an equal retention rate), a higher active
 count :)

 Not really complaining, just pointing it out :)

 - Dan



 On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Max_well maxouw...@gmail.com wrote:

  I don't think it's download count. It's more active installs count.

  -Max

  On Sep 5, 12:16 am, Dan Sherman impact...@gmail.com wrote:
   Agreed,

   I've got a few very highly rated apps, but continue to be dominated by
  apps
   with lower overall ratings due to (what I assume is) download count.
   Basically the issue of those on top stay on top.

   - Dan

   On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:35 PM, mcgowen007 mcgowen...@gmail.com wrote:

Glad to see you guys are updating the market.  The changes look nice
and the additional promo tools will be a great way to get our target
consumers' attention.  At some point however, I think you should
consider a you-tube style filter for the market.  As a developer I
work hard to put out something cool that is downloaded en masse for
about a day and a half while it floats near the top of the new apps
category, but won't pick back up again without some additional
promotion.  It would be very helpful to have a most popular filter for
today, this week, this month, this year, all time.  That way, we can
gain some traction as a most popular app for the week or month (and
hopefully beyond!).  Please consider this in your next round of
upgrades to the market.  Otherwise, great job guys!
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[android-developers] Re: Android Market 1.6

2009-09-15 Thread Robert Green

2 Things that could seriously benefit Android market users:

1)  Hot this week or month
- Like mcgowen said - this would allow for new apps being launched to
actually be able to stand out if they're really good.
2)  A recommender.  Did you enjoy this app/game?  Try this other app/
game!  Users are already rating things on a 5 point scale.  Using any
standard recommender algorithm would work.

On Sep 15, 7:28 am, mcgowen007 mcgowen...@gmail.com wrote:
 Whichever criterion Google wants to use is fine, I just think it would
 benefit both us developers and the end users to see hot apps for
 different time periods.  An app that is brand new is thrown into the
 mix with all of the other new apps on the one tab, and it's hard to
 tell which ones are worthwhile.  If the user could filter the most
 popular (some mix of downloads, active installs, star-rating, etc.) of
 the day or week, it would be a very powerful and useful tool.  I offer
 this suggestion up because I would use it all the time as an android
 user, but would love even more to see it as a developer.  And
 furthermore, I don't believe it is a huge effort for developers of the
 market 1.6 upgrade.  When a user clicks on Top Paid or Top Free
 for instance, hitting the 'menu' button will give them a time-filter
 option.  It's a pretty simple tweak I hope they consider.

 I would love to hear other opinions or comments (especially from
 someone from the Googleplex ;).

 -Graham

 On Sep 5, 5:42 pm, Dan Sherman impact...@gmail.com wrote:

  Gotcha,

  Still the same effect :)  Apps at the top of the list will have a larger
  number of downloads (and assuming an equal retention rate), a higher active
  count :)

  Not really complaining, just pointing it out :)

  - Dan

  On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Max_well maxouw...@gmail.com wrote:

   I don't think it's download count. It's more active installs count.

   -Max

   On Sep 5, 12:16 am, Dan Sherman impact...@gmail.com wrote:
Agreed,

I've got a few very highly rated apps, but continue to be dominated by
   apps
with lower overall ratings due to (what I assume is) download count.
Basically the issue of those on top stay on top.

- Dan

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:35 PM, mcgowen007 mcgowen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Glad to see you guys are updating the market.  The changes look nice
 and the additional promo tools will be a great way to get our target
 consumers' attention.  At some point however, I think you should
 consider a you-tube style filter for the market.  As a developer I
 work hard to put out something cool that is downloaded en masse for
 about a day and a half while it floats near the top of the new apps
 category, but won't pick back up again without some additional
 promotion.  It would be very helpful to have a most popular filter for
 today, this week, this month, this year, all time.  That way, we can
 gain some traction as a most popular app for the week or month (and
 hopefully beyond!).  Please consider this in your next round of
 upgrades to the market.  Otherwise, great job guys!


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[android-developers] Re: Android Market 1.6

2009-09-05 Thread Max_well

I don't think it's download count. It's more active installs count.

-Max

On Sep 5, 12:16 am, Dan Sherman impact...@gmail.com wrote:
 Agreed,

 I've got a few very highly rated apps, but continue to be dominated by apps
 with lower overall ratings due to (what I assume is) download count.
 Basically the issue of those on top stay on top.

 - Dan

 On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:35 PM, mcgowen007 mcgowen...@gmail.com wrote:

  Glad to see you guys are updating the market.  The changes look nice
  and the additional promo tools will be a great way to get our target
  consumers' attention.  At some point however, I think you should
  consider a you-tube style filter for the market.  As a developer I
  work hard to put out something cool that is downloaded en masse for
  about a day and a half while it floats near the top of the new apps
  category, but won't pick back up again without some additional
  promotion.  It would be very helpful to have a most popular filter for
  today, this week, this month, this year, all time.  That way, we can
  gain some traction as a most popular app for the week or month (and
  hopefully beyond!).  Please consider this in your next round of
  upgrades to the market.  Otherwise, great job guys!

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[android-developers] Re: Android Market 1.6

2009-09-05 Thread Dan Sherman
Gotcha,

Still the same effect :)  Apps at the top of the list will have a larger
number of downloads (and assuming an equal retention rate), a higher active
count :)

Not really complaining, just pointing it out :)

- Dan

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Max_well maxouw...@gmail.com wrote:


 I don't think it's download count. It's more active installs count.

 -Max

 On Sep 5, 12:16 am, Dan Sherman impact...@gmail.com wrote:
  Agreed,
 
  I've got a few very highly rated apps, but continue to be dominated by
 apps
  with lower overall ratings due to (what I assume is) download count.
  Basically the issue of those on top stay on top.
 
  - Dan
 
  On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:35 PM, mcgowen007 mcgowen...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Glad to see you guys are updating the market.  The changes look nice
   and the additional promo tools will be a great way to get our target
   consumers' attention.  At some point however, I think you should
   consider a you-tube style filter for the market.  As a developer I
   work hard to put out something cool that is downloaded en masse for
   about a day and a half while it floats near the top of the new apps
   category, but won't pick back up again without some additional
   promotion.  It would be very helpful to have a most popular filter for
   today, this week, this month, this year, all time.  That way, we can
   gain some traction as a most popular app for the week or month (and
   hopefully beyond!).  Please consider this in your next round of
   upgrades to the market.  Otherwise, great job guys!

 


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