Re: [android-developers] Re: Best Application Data Backup solution?
Thank you for the reply but the backups I have would consist of anywhere from a few 100 KB to several MB in size and Google backup has limitations (it's mostly geared towards saving off settings and preferences not custom data) at least from what I've read. Is this information incorrect? On Wednesday, March 7, 2012 6:56:26 AM UTC-6, Kostya Vasilyev wrote: FWIW, there is a data backup solution built into Android: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/backup.html On 03/07/2012 04:51 PM, gcstang wrote: Does no one perform these types of backups or am I asking the wrong question? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Best Application Data Backup solution?
That's my impression too, and I ended up not using it because of its policy and unpredictable availability on actual devices (given manufacturer specific firmware variations), but perhaps it's worth a look just because it's (mostly) already there. Other that that, take a look at various cloud computing platforms, their terms of service and pricing. Or roll your own web server if you feel confident enough. -- K 8 марта 2012 г. 18:13 пользователь gc gcst...@gmail.com написал: Thank you for the reply but the backups I have would consist of anywhere from a few 100 KB to several MB in size and Google backup has limitations (it's mostly geared towards saving off settings and preferences not custom data) at least from what I've read. Is this information incorrect? On Wednesday, March 7, 2012 6:56:26 AM UTC-6, Kostya Vasilyev wrote: FWIW, there is a data backup solution built into Android: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/backup.html On 03/07/2012 04:51 PM, gcstang wrote: Does no one perform these types of backups or am I asking the wrong question? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Best Application Data Backup solution?
2012/3/8 Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com: Other that that, take a look at various cloud computing platforms, their terms of service and pricing. Or roll your own web server if you feel confident enough. In most cases, IMHO, it's not the developer's data. It's the user's data. Hence, the backup should be made to something the user controls, such as: -- external storage -- DropBox account (via API or Android client) -- email (via attachment) -- etc. The only case where backing it up to a developer-owned server would seem appropriate for user-owned data is if said server also had a Web app, or sync options to other clients, or something to allow the user to use the backup. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com | http://github.com/commonsguy http://commonsware.com/blog | http://twitter.com/commonsguy _The Busy Coder's Guide to *Advanced* Android Development_ Version 2.5 Available! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Best Application Data Backup solution?
On 03/08/2012 10:23 PM, Mark Murphy wrote: In most cases, IMHO, it's not the developer's data. It's the user's data. Agreed. Hence, the backup should be made to something the user controls, such as: -- external storage -- DropBox account (via API or Android client) -- email (via attachment) -- etc. Given the context, I'd also consider security implications. Email message sizes are typically limited by servers to around 30Mb, meaning 20-something megabytes of useful data if using base64 encoding. The only case where backing it up to a developer-owned server would seem appropriate for user-owned data is if said server also had a Web app, or sync options to other clients, It just depends on the data. Backup / restore functionality within one app is still valuable in cases where the user gets a new device or resets his existing one (assuming data loss), wishes to sync data between devices, or to protect against unexpected device / data loss. For example: Android can back up WiFI networks configured on the device, including their passwords, but there is no web app to see this data. or something to allow the user to use the backup. Yep, that's the point, isn't it? The something can be the app's restore functionality. -- K -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Best Application Data Backup solution?
Thank you for all the input. The application can and does currently back up to the SD Card at the user's discretion(I've also incorporated S/FTP if they want to send it to their own server) but I was looking for something off their device in an automated fashion if they would require it..it's surprising how many clients don't understand they have to take the data from the SD Card to the new phone/device in order to get it back via a restore. Optimally the backup solution would allow them to sync their data between devices, I was looking into Google Storage but everyone would need access to an account unless there is another way and it also doesn't really solve the synchronization problem unless it's a full sync each time vs. just a record by record sync. Records range from a few hundred to a few thousand based on client feed back. The only other solution I can think of is pushing the data to my own server upon purchase then after each update and deletion; most likely to a database that keeps in sync via a user/pass so they can use it across devices. The only thing making me hesitate here is that the cost could get pretty high based on the data transfer and that some records will have images traveling along with them. On Wednesday, January 25, 2012 7:09:06 AM UTC-6, gc wrote: What is the best solution to integrate backup, external to the device for an Android application? Ideally the solution will be cheap, integrate easily with an existing application and will be seamless to the clients. I know Google Backup is limited so most likely it will not work, but there has to be other solutions. Backup per client will be roughly 5-10MB in size. Thank you in advance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Best Application Data Backup solution?
Does no one perform these types of backups or am I asking the wrong question? On Jan 27, 7:09 am, gcstang gcst...@gmail.com wrote: I know there are solutions such as : Amazon S3 Google Storage Sending data to my own server etc... What I'm wondering is what is the implementations that have been tried and are working for others? On Jan 25, 7:09 am, gcstang gcst...@gmail.com wrote: What is thebestsolution to integratebackup, external to the device for an Android application? Ideally the solution will be cheap, integrate easily with an existing application and will be seamless to the clients. I know GoogleBackupis limited so most likely it will not work, but there has to be other solutions. Backupper client will be roughly 5-10MB in size. Thank you in advance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Best Application Data Backup solution?
FWIW, there is a data backup solution built into Android: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/backup.html On 03/07/2012 04:51 PM, gcstang wrote: Does no one perform these types of backups or am I asking the wrong question? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Best Application Data Backup solution?
I know there are solutions such as : Amazon S3 Google Storage Sending data to my own server etc... What I'm wondering is what is the implementations that have been tried and are working for others? On Jan 25, 7:09 am, gcstang gcst...@gmail.com wrote: What is thebestsolution to integratebackup, external to the device for an Android application? Ideally the solution will be cheap, integrate easily with an existing application and will be seamless to the clients. I know GoogleBackupis limited so most likely it will not work, but there has to be other solutions. Backupper client will be roughly 5-10MB in size. Thank you in advance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
