[android-developers] Re: Check for new version of applications
Just found some info on how to interface with Market directly and decided to pass it along http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=5c8501d73226fad8hl=en Apparently you can run queries against the market to get your application URL from market directly. Hope this helps On Nov 11, 1:50 pm, G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be cool if google added the ability to check your version against the market, but for the time being, I'm fine with using a version URL as you described. But I'm still fuzzy on one thing, is there an action available to launch the market app directly to your product page? Example: -user opens app -app checks update url finds new version exists -app presents dialog box - click ok to goto the Android Market -user clicks ok -new intent launches android market with your app's content_id Does anyone know if a simple solution like that currently exists, or do we just have to notify the user about the update, and tell them to goto the market? Also in regards to the OI Update app, is there a way to require it be installed as well, or would my app have to download and install it directly on it's first run? And would that even be possible if the user never checked off Allow Non-Market Apps? On Nov 11, 12:53 pm, Peli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I understand, Google plans something like this for the future (maybe when paid apps start to become possible). For now the developer is left by themselves. We also initially copied an update checker routine in all of our OI applications, but this has 2 major drawbacks: 1) It requires each application to have the INTERNET permission, even though the app itself won't use it. 2) A lot of code is duplicated in the various applications. We have been developing OI Update, an open source update checker, which is ready to be released soon. We wrote it mainly for our own applications, but it is written generally enough to allow other applications to take advantage of it as well easily. Your application only needs to include a small meta-data in your manifest, and you need to keep a file on a server with update information (which can be compatible to VeeCheck; AndAppStore.com can generate that file on the fly). This inconvenience is necessary, because the Market does not provide version information to 3rd party applications (or at least I'm not aware of how to do it). All the rest is handled by OI Update. It checks every couple of days (as set by the user) for updates, and notifies the user. If the user wishes they are then directly forwarded to the Market where they can download the new version. I hope this could clarify a couple of points. Peliwww.openintents.org On Nov 11, 3:48 pm,loty[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering about the same thing. All applications need to have a simple ability to notify users of new versions. For me 3rd party updaters/checkers is not an option - I can just as easily add simple check against my web site and download new APK file directly. A much cleaner solution is to query Android Market directly for new version. Can anyone illuminate me if this is possible or planned in the future. On Nov 10, 10:02 am, G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So version checking needs to be done through an outside resource... Is there anintentwe can use to launch theAndroidMarketApp directly to the listing for our own app, for when an update is available? On Nov 10, 4:35 am, friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, we have prepared a release version of the OI Updater. There is no need to send intents, but developers only need to add a meta-data node to the application manifest in order to be handled by the updater. Early feedback welcome! Description:http://www.openintents.org/en/node/136 Download:http://openintents.googlecode.com/files/UpdateChecker-1.0.0.apk Cheers, Friedger On 6 Nov., 20:31, Guillaume Perrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because we use a XMPP based application, we chosed Pubsub as a way to notify new versions to the user. The main advantage is that it uses a push model. The user is aware of a new version when he launches the app or in real time if he's online while a new version has just been released. No timer or service at all in the application code. On Nov 5, 11:57 pm, friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently, relying on an external resource is the way to do updates, this is how it is described in the documentation. If someone is checking againstMarket, please let us know. Friedger On Nov 4, 8:49 pm, Dan B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: isn't there some way tocheckthe version against theMarketinstead of having to host version information somewhere else? I know the app Locale somehow knows when
[android-developers] Re: Check for new version of applications
OI Update is now available on Android Market! So, developers can now just add meta-data android:name=org.openintents.updatechecker.UPDATE_URL android:value=url to version file / to the application node of the manifest and your automatic update is implemented. Regards, Friedger On 13 Nov., 16:03, loty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just found some info on how to interface with Market directly and decided to pass it along http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=5c850... Apparently you can run queries against the market to get your application URL from market directly. Hope this helps On Nov 11, 1:50 pm, G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be cool if google added the ability tocheckyour version against the market, but for the time being, I'm fine with using a version URL as you described. But I'm still fuzzy on one thing, is there an action available to launch the market app directly to your product page? Example: -user opens app -app checksupdateurl finds new version exists -app presents dialog box - click ok to goto the Android Market -user clicks ok -new intent launches android market with your app's content_id Does anyone know if a simple solution like that currently exists, or do we just have to notify the user about theupdate, and tell them to goto the market? Also in regards to the OIUpdateapp, is there a way to require it be installed as well, or would my app have to download and install it directly on it's first run? And would that even be possible if the user never checked off Allow Non-Market Apps? On Nov 11, 12:53 pm, Peli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I understand, Google plans something like this for the future (maybe when paid apps start to become possible). For now the developer is left by themselves. We also initially copied anupdatechecker routine in all of our OI applications, but this has 2 major drawbacks: 1) It requires each application to have the INTERNET permission, even though the app itself won't use it. 2) A lot of code is duplicated in the various applications. We have been developing OIUpdate, an open sourceupdatechecker, which is ready to be released soon. We wrote it mainly for our own applications, but it is written generally enough to allow other applications to take advantage of it as well easily. Your application only needs to include a small meta-data in your manifest, and you need to keep a file on a server withupdate information (which can be compatible to VeeCheck; AndAppStore.com can generate that file on the fly). This inconvenience is necessary, because the Market does not provide version information to 3rd party applications (or at least I'm not aware of how to do it). All the rest is handled by OIUpdate. It checks every couple of days (as set by the user) for updates, and notifies the user. If the user wishes they are then directly forwarded to the Market where they can download the new version. I hope this could clarify a couple of points. Peliwww.openintents.org On Nov 11, 3:48 pm,loty[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering about the same thing. All applications need to have a simple ability to notify users of new versions. For me 3rd party updaters/checkers is not an option - I can just as easily add simple checkagainst my web site and download new APK file directly. A much cleaner solution is to query Android Market directly for new version. Can anyone illuminate me if this is possible or planned in the future. On Nov 10, 10:02 am, G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So version checking needs to be done through an outside resource... Is there anintentwe can use to launch theAndroidMarketApp directly to the listing for our own app, for when anupdateis available? On Nov 10, 4:35 am, friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, we have prepared a release version of the OI Updater. There is no need to send intents, but developers only need to add a meta-data node to the application manifest in order to be handled by the updater. Early feedback welcome! Description:http://www.openintents.org/en/node/136 Download:http://openintents.googlecode.com/files/UpdateChecker-1.0.0.apk Cheers, Friedger On 6 Nov., 20:31, Guillaume Perrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because we use a XMPP based application, we chosed Pubsub as a way to notify new versions to the user. The main advantage is that it uses a push model. The user is aware of a new version when he launches the app or in real time if he's online while a new version has just been released. No timer or service at all in the application code. On Nov 5, 11:57 pm, friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently, relying on an external resource is the
[android-developers] Re: Check for new version of applications
As far as I understand, Google plans something like this for the future (maybe when paid apps start to become possible). For now the developer is left by themselves. We also initially copied an update checker routine in all of our OI applications, but this has 2 major drawbacks: 1) It requires each application to have the INTERNET permission, even though the app itself won't use it. 2) A lot of code is duplicated in the various applications. We have been developing OI Update, an open source update checker, which is ready to be released soon. We wrote it mainly for our own applications, but it is written generally enough to allow other applications to take advantage of it as well easily. Your application only needs to include a small meta-data in your manifest, and you need to keep a file on a server with update information (which can be compatible to VeeCheck; AndAppStore.com can generate that file on the fly). This inconvenience is necessary, because the Market does not provide version information to 3rd party applications (or at least I'm not aware of how to do it). All the rest is handled by OI Update. It checks every couple of days (as set by the user) for updates, and notifies the user. If the user wishes they are then directly forwarded to the Market where they can download the new version. I hope this could clarify a couple of points. Peli www.openintents.org On Nov 11, 3:48 pm, loty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering about the same thing. All applications need to have a simple ability to notify users of new versions. For me 3rd party updaters/checkers is not an option - I can just as easily add simple check against my web site and download new APK file directly. A much cleaner solution is to query Android Market directly for new version. Can anyone illuminate me if this is possible or planned in the future. On Nov 10, 10:02 am, G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So version checking needs to be done through an outside resource... Is there anintentwe can use to launch theAndroidMarketApp directly to the listing for our own app, for when an update is available? On Nov 10, 4:35 am, friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, we have prepared a release version of the OI Updater. There is no need to send intents, but developers only need to add a meta-data node to the application manifest in order to be handled by the updater. Early feedback welcome! Description:http://www.openintents.org/en/node/136 Download:http://openintents.googlecode.com/files/UpdateChecker-1.0.0.apk Cheers, Friedger On 6 Nov., 20:31, Guillaume Perrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because we use a XMPP based application, we chosed Pubsub as a way to notify new versions to the user. The main advantage is that it uses a push model. The user is aware of a new version when he launches the app or in real time if he's online while a new version has just been released. No timer or service at all in the application code. On Nov 5, 11:57 pm, friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently, relying on an external resource is the way to do updates, this is how it is described in the documentation. If someone is checking againstMarket, please let us know. Friedger On Nov 4, 8:49 pm, Dan B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: isn't there some way tocheckthe version against theMarketinstead of having to host version information somewhere else? I know the app Locale somehow knows when anupdateis available, it seems reasonable to query theMarketrather than relying on outside sources :\ On Nov 1, 1:50 pm,friedger[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say the package name is the global identifier. Maybe you can just provide a VeeCheck url based on the package name (as alternative to the app id). So I couldcheckthat url. If you don't host an app for the package name or if it is not unique you could return a HTTP 400. Friedger On 1 Nov., 17:37, Al Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friedger, How are you identifying the apps?, I'd happily add an extra field or two to the AndAppStore.com data that you can search for if it would be useful. Al. friedgerwrote: The idea is that the Updater will also be ablecheckall applications it knows about by a single button clicked or scheduled task. So, once theintentfrom one application is processed by theUpdateit is possible to include this application to the periodicupdate. A more general solution that includes all installed applications is currently not possible as I can't determine the location of the versioninfo file. The apk mentioned above is provided for developers to test. In the releaseversionthe interval between two checks will be at least 24
[android-developers] Re: Check for new version of applications
It would be cool if google added the ability to check your version against the market, but for the time being, I'm fine with using a version URL as you described. But I'm still fuzzy on one thing, is there an action available to launch the market app directly to your product page? Example: -user opens app -app checks update url finds new version exists -app presents dialog box - click ok to goto the Android Market -user clicks ok -new intent launches android market with your app's content_id Does anyone know if a simple solution like that currently exists, or do we just have to notify the user about the update, and tell them to goto the market? Also in regards to the OI Update app, is there a way to require it be installed as well, or would my app have to download and install it directly on it's first run? And would that even be possible if the user never checked off Allow Non-Market Apps? On Nov 11, 12:53 pm, Peli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I understand, Google plans something like this for the future (maybe when paid apps start to become possible). For now the developer is left by themselves. We also initially copied an update checker routine in all of our OI applications, but this has 2 major drawbacks: 1) It requires each application to have the INTERNET permission, even though the app itself won't use it. 2) A lot of code is duplicated in the various applications. We have been developing OI Update, an open source update checker, which is ready to be released soon. We wrote it mainly for our own applications, but it is written generally enough to allow other applications to take advantage of it as well easily. Your application only needs to include a small meta-data in your manifest, and you need to keep a file on a server with update information (which can be compatible to VeeCheck; AndAppStore.com can generate that file on the fly). This inconvenience is necessary, because the Market does not provide version information to 3rd party applications (or at least I'm not aware of how to do it). All the rest is handled by OI Update. It checks every couple of days (as set by the user) for updates, and notifies the user. If the user wishes they are then directly forwarded to the Market where they can download the new version. I hope this could clarify a couple of points. Peliwww.openintents.org On Nov 11, 3:48 pm, loty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering about the same thing. All applications need to have a simple ability to notify users of new versions. For me 3rd party updaters/checkers is not an option - I can just as easily add simple check against my web site and download new APK file directly. A much cleaner solution is to query Android Market directly for new version. Can anyone illuminate me if this is possible or planned in the future. On Nov 10, 10:02 am, G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So version checking needs to be done through an outside resource... Is there anintentwe can use to launch theAndroidMarketApp directly to the listing for our own app, for when an update is available? On Nov 10, 4:35 am, friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, we have prepared a release version of the OI Updater. There is no need to send intents, but developers only need to add a meta-data node to the application manifest in order to be handled by the updater. Early feedback welcome! Description:http://www.openintents.org/en/node/136 Download:http://openintents.googlecode.com/files/UpdateChecker-1.0.0.apk Cheers, Friedger On 6 Nov., 20:31, Guillaume Perrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because we use a XMPP based application, we chosed Pubsub as a way to notify new versions to the user. The main advantage is that it uses a push model. The user is aware of a new version when he launches the app or in real time if he's online while a new version has just been released. No timer or service at all in the application code. On Nov 5, 11:57 pm, friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently, relying on an external resource is the way to do updates, this is how it is described in the documentation. If someone is checking againstMarket, please let us know. Friedger On Nov 4, 8:49 pm, Dan B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: isn't there some way tocheckthe version against theMarketinstead of having to host version information somewhere else? I know the app Locale somehow knows when anupdateis available, it seems reasonable to query theMarketrather than relying on outside sources :\ On Nov 1, 1:50 pm,friedger[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say the package name is the global identifier. Maybe you can just provide a VeeCheck url based on the package name (as alternative to the app id). So I couldcheckthat url. If you don't host an app for the package name or if it is
[android-developers] Re: Check for new version of applications
We also have an update notification feature in SAM. If you update you application version at SlideME site, the user will receive a notification, allowing them to download the new version. This does require, however, that the user have downloaded the application through SAM. Shane On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Peli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I understand, Google plans something like this for the future (maybe when paid apps start to become possible). For now the developer is left by themselves. We also initially copied an update checker routine in all of our OI applications, but this has 2 major drawbacks: 1) It requires each application to have the INTERNET permission, even though the app itself won't use it. 2) A lot of code is duplicated in the various applications. We have been developing OI Update, an open source update checker, which is ready to be released soon. We wrote it mainly for our own applications, but it is written generally enough to allow other applications to take advantage of it as well easily. Your application only needs to include a small meta-data in your manifest, and you need to keep a file on a server with update information (which can be compatible to VeeCheck; AndAppStore.com can generate that file on the fly). This inconvenience is necessary, because the Market does not provide version information to 3rd party applications (or at least I'm not aware of how to do it). All the rest is handled by OI Update. It checks every couple of days (as set by the user) for updates, and notifies the user. If the user wishes they are then directly forwarded to the Market where they can download the new version. I hope this could clarify a couple of points. Peli www.openintents.org On Nov 11, 3:48 pm, loty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering about the same thing. All applications need to have a simple ability to notify users of new versions. For me 3rd party updaters/checkers is not an option - I can just as easily add simple check against my web site and download new APK file directly. A much cleaner solution is to query Android Market directly for new version. Can anyone illuminate me if this is possible or planned in the future. On Nov 10, 10:02 am, G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So version checking needs to be done through an outside resource... Is there anintentwe can use to launch theAndroidMarketApp directly to the listing for our own app, for when an update is available? On Nov 10, 4:35 am, friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, we have prepared a release version of the OI Updater. There is no need to send intents, but developers only need to add a meta-data node to the application manifest in order to be handled by the updater. Early feedback welcome! Description:http://www.openintents.org/en/node/136 Download: http://openintents.googlecode.com/files/UpdateChecker-1.0.0.apk Cheers, Friedger On 6 Nov., 20:31, Guillaume Perrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because we use a XMPP based application, we chosed Pubsub as a way to notify new versions to the user. The main advantage is that it uses a push model. The user is aware of a new version when he launches the app or in real time if he's online while a new version has just been released. No timer or service at all in the application code. On Nov 5, 11:57 pm, friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently, relying on an external resource is the way to do updates, this is how it is described in the documentation. If someone is checking againstMarket, please let us know. Friedger On Nov 4, 8:49 pm, Dan B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: isn't there some way tocheckthe version against theMarketinstead of having to host version information somewhere else? I know the app Locale somehow knows when anupdateis available, it seems reasonable to query theMarketrather than relying on outside sources :\ On Nov 1, 1:50 pm,friedger[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say the package name is the global identifier. Maybe you can just provide a VeeCheck url based on the package name (as alternative to the app id). So I couldcheckthat url. If you don't host an app for the package name or if it is not unique you could return a HTTP 400. Friedger On 1 Nov., 17:37, Al Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friedger, How are you identifying the apps?, I'd happily add an extra field or two to the AndAppStore.com data that you can search for if it would be useful. Al. friedgerwrote: The idea is that the Updater will also be ablecheckall applications it knows about by a single button clicked or scheduled task. So, once theintentfrom one application is processed by theUpdateit is
[android-developers] Re: Check for new version of applications
I'm wondering about the same thing. All applications need to have a simple ability to notify users of new versions. For me 3rd party updaters/checkers is not an option - I can just as easily add simple check against my web site and download new APK file directly. A much cleaner solution is to query Android Market directly for new version. Can anyone illuminate me if this is possible or planned in the future. On Nov 10, 10:02 am, G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So version checking needs to be done through an outside resource... Is there anintentwe can use to launch theAndroidMarketApp directly to the listing for our own app, for when an update is available? On Nov 10, 4:35 am, friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, we have prepared a release version of the OI Updater. There is no need to send intents, but developers only need to add a meta-data node to the application manifest in order to be handled by the updater. Early feedback welcome! Description:http://www.openintents.org/en/node/136 Download:http://openintents.googlecode.com/files/UpdateChecker-1.0.0.apk Cheers, Friedger On 6 Nov., 20:31, Guillaume Perrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because we use a XMPP based application, we chosed Pubsub as a way to notify new versions to the user. The main advantage is that it uses a push model. The user is aware of a new version when he launches the app or in real time if he's online while a new version has just been released. No timer or service at all in the application code. On Nov 5, 11:57 pm, friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently, relying on an external resource is the way to do updates, this is how it is described in the documentation. If someone is checking againstMarket, please let us know. Friedger On Nov 4, 8:49 pm, Dan B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: isn't there some way tocheckthe version against theMarketinstead of having to host version information somewhere else? I know the app Locale somehow knows when anupdateis available, it seems reasonable to query theMarketrather than relying on outside sources :\ On Nov 1, 1:50 pm,friedger[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say the package name is the global identifier. Maybe you can just provide a VeeCheck url based on the package name (as alternative to the app id). So I couldcheckthat url. If you don't host an app for the package name or if it is not unique you could return a HTTP 400. Friedger On 1 Nov., 17:37, Al Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friedger, How are you identifying the apps?, I'd happily add an extra field or two to the AndAppStore.com data that you can search for if it would be useful. Al. friedgerwrote: The idea is that the Updater will also be ablecheckall applications it knows about by a single button clicked or scheduled task. So, once theintentfrom one application is processed by theUpdateit is possible to include this application to the periodicupdate. A more general solution that includes all installed applications is currently not possible as I can't determine the location of the versioninfo file. The apk mentioned above is provided for developers to test. In the releaseversionthe interval between two checks will be at least 24 hours, so you can start the service as often as you like but thecheck is only performed once every 24 hours. Furthermore, only the log cat shows whether the installedversionis up-to-date or not. In both cases the notification is show (this is to simplify the tests). Would you like to have a different Notification text? Any ideas for icons? Friedger On 1 Nov., 13:18, Al Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HiFriedger, I've updated AndAppStore.com to provide a versionCode in theupdate.xml as you requested. At the moment anyone with applications listed will find that they can specify the versionCode in the details about a releasedversion(not the application details page, the release details page). I am working on code to pull the information from the manifest included in the apk, but this is a little way off yet. Thanks for making this available. Al. friedgerwrote: Hi, we are preparing the OI Updater that checks a given info file for new updates as described in theAndroiddocumentation. You can find the current build (rev 1284) at http://openintents.googlecode.com/files/UpdateChecker.apk In order to initiate theupdatecheckyou just have to add the following code: Intentservice = newIntent();
[android-developers] Re: Check for new version of applications
Hi, we have prepared a release version of the OI Updater. There is no need to send intents, but developers only need to add a meta-data node to the application manifest in order to be handled by the updater. Early feedback welcome! Description: http://www.openintents.org/en/node/136 Download: http://openintents.googlecode.com/files/UpdateChecker-1.0.0.apk Cheers, Friedger On 6 Nov., 20:31, Guillaume Perrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because we use a XMPP based application, we chosed Pubsub as a way to notify new versions to the user. The main advantage is that it uses a push model. The user is aware of a new version when he launches the app or in real time if he's online while a new version has just been released. No timer or service at all in the application code. On Nov 5, 11:57 pm, friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently, relying on an external resource is the way to do updates, this is how it is described in the documentation. If someone is checking against Market, please let us know. Friedger On Nov 4, 8:49 pm, Dan B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: isn't there some way tocheckthe version against the Market instead of having to host version information somewhere else? I know the app Locale somehow knows when anupdateis available, it seems reasonable to query the Market rather than relying on outside sources :\ On Nov 1, 1:50 pm,friedger[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say the package name is the global identifier. Maybe you can just provide a VeeCheck url based on the package name (as alternative to the app id). So I couldcheckthat url. If you don't host an app for the package name or if it is not unique you could return a HTTP 400. Friedger On 1 Nov., 17:37, Al Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friedger, How are you identifying the apps?, I'd happily add an extra field or two to the AndAppStore.com data that you can search for if it would be useful. Al. friedgerwrote: The idea is that the Updater will also be ablecheckall applications it knows about by a single button clicked or scheduled task. So, once the intent from one application is processed by theUpdateit is possible to include this application to the periodicupdate. A more general solution that includes all installed applications is currently not possible as I can't determine the location of the versioninfo file. The apk mentioned above is provided for developers to test. In the releaseversionthe interval between two checks will be at least 24 hours, so you can start the service as often as you like but thecheck is only performed once every 24 hours. Furthermore, only the log cat shows whether the installedversionis up-to-date or not. In both cases the notification is show (this is to simplify the tests). Would you like to have a different Notification text? Any ideas for icons? Friedger On 1 Nov., 13:18, Al Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HiFriedger, I've updated AndAppStore.com to provide a versionCode in theupdate.xml as you requested. At the moment anyone with applications listed will find that they can specify the versionCode in the details about a releasedversion(not the application details page, the release details page). I am working on code to pull the information from the manifest included in the apk, but this is a little way off yet. Thanks for making this available. Al. friedgerwrote: Hi, we are preparing the OI Updater that checks a given info file for new updates as described in the Android documentation. You can find the current build (rev 1284) at http://openintents.googlecode.com/files/UpdateChecker.apk In order to initiate theupdatecheckyou just have to add the following code: Intent service = new Intent(); service.setAction(ACTION_CHECK_VERSION); String uri= http://uri-to-update-file.txt; service.setData(Uri.parse(link)); service.putExtra(package_name, context.getPackageName()); service.putExtra(app_name, context.getString(org.openintents.notepad.R.string.app_name)); int currentVersion = -1; PackageInfo pi = context.getPackageManager().getPackageInfo( context.getPackageName(), 0); currentVersion = pi.versionCode; service.putExtra(current_version, currentVersion); context.startService(service ); You can also put current_version_name if youcheckagainst the veecheck url at AndAppStore. It is still alpha, but we would appreciate early feedback. How do you like it? Would
[android-developers] Re: Check for new version of applications
So version checking needs to be done through an outside resource... Is there an intent we can use to launch the Android Market App directly to the listing for our own app, for when an update is available? On Nov 10, 4:35 am, friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, we have prepared a release version of the OI Updater. There is no need to send intents, but developers only need to add a meta-data node to the application manifest in order to be handled by the updater. Early feedback welcome! Description:http://www.openintents.org/en/node/136 Download:http://openintents.googlecode.com/files/UpdateChecker-1.0.0.apk Cheers, Friedger On 6 Nov., 20:31, Guillaume Perrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because we use a XMPP based application, we chosed Pubsub as a way to notify new versions to the user. The main advantage is that it uses a push model. The user is aware of a new version when he launches the app or in real time if he's online while a new version has just been released. No timer or service at all in the application code. On Nov 5, 11:57 pm, friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently, relying on an external resource is the way to do updates, this is how it is described in the documentation. If someone is checking againstMarket, please let us know. Friedger On Nov 4, 8:49 pm, Dan B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: isn't there some way tocheckthe version against theMarketinstead of having to host version information somewhere else? I know the app Locale somehow knows when anupdateis available, it seems reasonable to query theMarketrather than relying on outside sources :\ On Nov 1, 1:50 pm,friedger[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say the package name is the global identifier. Maybe you can just provide a VeeCheck url based on the package name (as alternative to the app id). So I couldcheckthat url. If you don't host an app for the package name or if it is not unique you could return a HTTP 400. Friedger On 1 Nov., 17:37, Al Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friedger, How are you identifying the apps?, I'd happily add an extra field or two to the AndAppStore.com data that you can search for if it would be useful. Al. friedgerwrote: The idea is that the Updater will also be ablecheckall applications it knows about by a single button clicked or scheduled task. So, once theintentfrom one application is processed by theUpdateit is possible to include this application to the periodicupdate. A more general solution that includes all installed applications is currently not possible as I can't determine the location of the versioninfo file. The apk mentioned above is provided for developers to test. In the releaseversionthe interval between two checks will be at least 24 hours, so you can start the service as often as you like but thecheck is only performed once every 24 hours. Furthermore, only the log cat shows whether the installedversionis up-to-date or not. In both cases the notification is show (this is to simplify the tests). Would you like to have a different Notification text? Any ideas for icons? Friedger On 1 Nov., 13:18, Al Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HiFriedger, I've updated AndAppStore.com to provide a versionCode in theupdate.xml as you requested. At the moment anyone with applications listed will find that they can specify the versionCode in the details about a releasedversion(not the application details page, the release details page). I am working on code to pull the information from the manifest included in the apk, but this is a little way off yet. Thanks for making this available. Al. friedgerwrote: Hi, we are preparing the OI Updater that checks a given info file for new updates as described in the Android documentation. You can find the current build (rev 1284) at http://openintents.googlecode.com/files/UpdateChecker.apk In order to initiate theupdatecheckyou just have to add the following code: Intentservice = newIntent(); service.setAction(ACTION_CHECK_VERSION); String uri= http://uri-to-update-file.txt; service.setData(Uri.parse(link)); service.putExtra(package_name, context.getPackageName()); service.putExtra(app_name, context.getString(org.openintents.notepad.R.string.app_name)); int currentVersion = -1; PackageInfo pi = context.getPackageManager().getPackageInfo( context.getPackageName(), 0);
[android-developers] Re: Check for new version of applications
Because we use a XMPP based application, we chosed Pubsub as a way to notify new versions to the user. The main advantage is that it uses a push model. The user is aware of a new version when he launches the app or in real time if he's online while a new version has just been released. No timer or service at all in the application code. On Nov 5, 11:57 pm, friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently, relying on an external resource is the way to do updates, this is how it is described in the documentation. If someone is checking against Market, please let us know. Friedger On Nov 4, 8:49 pm, Dan B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: isn't there some way to check the version against the Market instead of having to host version information somewhere else? I know the app Locale somehow knows when an update is available, it seems reasonable to query the Market rather than relying on outside sources :\ On Nov 1, 1:50 pm,friedger[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say the package name is the global identifier. Maybe you can just provide a VeeCheck url based on the package name (as alternative to the app id). So I could check that url. If you don't host an app for the package name or if it is not unique you could return a HTTP 400. Friedger On 1 Nov., 17:37, Al Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friedger, How are you identifying the apps?, I'd happily add an extra field or two to the AndAppStore.com data that you can search for if it would be useful. Al. friedgerwrote: The idea is that the Updater will also be able check all applications it knows about by a single button clicked or scheduled task. So, once the intent from one application is processed by the Update it is possible to include this application to the periodic update. A more general solution that includes all installed applications is currently not possible as I can't determine the location of the versioninfo file. The apk mentioned above is provided for developers to test. In the releaseversionthe interval between two checks will be at least 24 hours, so you can start the service as often as you like but the check is only performed once every 24 hours. Furthermore, only the log cat shows whether the installedversionis up-to-date or not. In both cases the notification is show (this is to simplify the tests). Would you like to have a different Notification text? Any ideas for icons? Friedger On 1 Nov., 13:18, Al Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HiFriedger, I've updated AndAppStore.com to provide a versionCode in the update.xml as you requested. At the moment anyone with applications listed will find that they can specify the versionCode in the details about a releasedversion(not the application details page, the release details page). I am working on code to pull the information from the manifest included in the apk, but this is a little way off yet. Thanks for making this available. Al. friedgerwrote: Hi, we are preparing the OI Updater that checks a given info file for new updates as described in the Android documentation. You can find the current build (rev 1284) at http://openintents.googlecode.com/files/UpdateChecker.apk In order to initiate the update check you just have to add the following code: Intent service = new Intent(); service.setAction(ACTION_CHECK_VERSION); String uri= http://uri-to-update-file.txt; service.setData(Uri.parse(link)); service.putExtra(package_name, context.getPackageName()); service.putExtra(app_name, context.getString(org.openintents.notepad.R.string.app_name)); int currentVersion = -1; PackageInfo pi = context.getPackageManager().getPackageInfo( context.getPackageName(), 0); currentVersion = pi.versionCode; service.putExtra(current_version, currentVersion); context.startService(service ); You can also put current_version_name if you check against the veecheck url at AndAppStore. It is still alpha, but we would appreciate early feedback. How do you like it? Would you include it in your code? More/other features?... Cheers, Friedger -- Al Sutton W:www.alsutton.com B: alsutton.wordpress.com T: twitter.com/alsutton -- Al Sutton W:www.alsutton.com B: alsutton.wordpress.com T: twitter.com/alsutton- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to
[android-developers] Re: Check for new version of applications
isn't there some way to check the version against the Market instead of having to host version information somewhere else? I know the app Locale somehow knows when an update is available, it seems reasonable to query the Market rather than relying on outside sources :\ On Nov 1, 1:50 pm, friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say the package name is the global identifier. Maybe you can just provide a VeeCheck url based on the package name (as alternative to the app id). So I could check that url. If you don't host an app for the package name or if it is not unique you could return a HTTP 400. Friedger On 1 Nov., 17:37, Al Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friedger, How are you identifying the apps?, I'd happily add an extra field or two to the AndAppStore.com data that you can search for if it would be useful. Al. friedger wrote: The idea is that the Updater will also be able check all applications it knows about by a single button clicked or scheduled task. So, once the intent from one application is processed by the Update it is possible to include this application to the periodic update. A more general solution that includes all installed applications is currently not possible as I can't determine the location of the versioninfo file. The apk mentioned above is provided for developers to test. In the releaseversionthe interval between two checks will be at least 24 hours, so you can start the service as often as you like but the check is only performed once every 24 hours. Furthermore, only the log cat shows whether the installedversionis up-to-date or not. In both cases the notification is show (this is to simplify the tests). Would you like to have a different Notification text? Any ideas for icons? Friedger On 1 Nov., 13:18, Al Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Friedger, I've updated AndAppStore.com to provide a versionCode in the update.xml as you requested. At the moment anyone with applications listed will find that they can specify the versionCode in the details about a releasedversion(not the application details page, the release details page). I am working on code to pull the information from the manifest included in the apk, but this is a little way off yet. Thanks for making this available. Al. friedger wrote: Hi, we are preparing the OI Updater that checks a given info file for new updates as described in the Android documentation. You can find the current build (rev 1284) at http://openintents.googlecode.com/files/UpdateChecker.apk In order to initiate the update check you just have to add the following code: Intent service = new Intent(); service.setAction(ACTION_CHECK_VERSION); String uri= http://uri-to-update-file.txt; service.setData(Uri.parse(link)); service.putExtra(package_name, context.getPackageName()); service.putExtra(app_name, context.getString(org.openintents.notepad.R.string.app_name)); int currentVersion = -1; PackageInfo pi = context.getPackageManager().getPackageInfo( context.getPackageName(), 0); currentVersion = pi.versionCode; service.putExtra(current_version, currentVersion); context.startService(service ); You can also put current_version_name if you check against the veecheck url at AndAppStore. It is still alpha, but we would appreciate early feedback. How do you like it? Would you include it in your code? More/other features?... Cheers, Friedger -- Al Sutton W:www.alsutton.com B: alsutton.wordpress.com T: twitter.com/alsutton -- Al Sutton W:www.alsutton.com B: alsutton.wordpress.com T: twitter.com/alsutton- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Check for new version of applications
Great idea! Hmm one feature: a service (or activity) that automatically checks all installed apps versions :) On 1 Lis, 10:33, friedger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, we are preparing the OI Updater that checks a given info file for new updates as described in the Android documentation. You can find the current build (rev 1284) athttp://openintents.googlecode.com/files/UpdateChecker.apk In order to initiate the update check you just have to add the following code: Intent service = new Intent(); service.setAction(ACTION_CHECK_VERSION); String uri= http://uri-to-update-file.txt; service.setData(Uri.parse(link)); service.putExtra(package_name, context.getPackageName()); service.putExtra(app_name, context.getString(org.openintents.notepad.R.string.app_name)); int currentVersion = -1; PackageInfo pi = context.getPackageManager().getPackageInfo( context.getPackageName(), 0); currentVersion = pi.versionCode; service.putExtra(current_version, currentVersion); context.startService(service ); You can also put current_version_name if you check against the veecheck url at AndAppStore. It is still alpha, but we would appreciate early feedback. How do you like it? Would you include it in your code? More/other features?... Cheers, Friedger --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Check for new version of applications
Hi Friedger, I've updated AndAppStore.com to provide a versionCode in the update.xml as you requested. At the moment anyone with applications listed will find that they can specify the versionCode in the details about a released version (not the application details page, the release details page). I am working on code to pull the information from the manifest included in the apk, but this is a little way off yet. Thanks for making this available. Al. friedger wrote: Hi, we are preparing the OI Updater that checks a given info file for new updates as described in the Android documentation. You can find the current build (rev 1284) at http://openintents.googlecode.com/files/UpdateChecker.apk In order to initiate the update check you just have to add the following code: Intent service = new Intent(); service.setAction(ACTION_CHECK_VERSION); String uri= http://uri-to-update-file.txt; service.setData(Uri.parse(link)); service.putExtra(package_name, context.getPackageName()); service.putExtra(app_name, context.getString(org.openintents.notepad.R.string.app_name)); int currentVersion = -1; PackageInfo pi = context.getPackageManager().getPackageInfo( context.getPackageName(), 0); currentVersion = pi.versionCode; service.putExtra(current_version, currentVersion); context.startService(service ); You can also put current_version_name if you check against the veecheck url at AndAppStore. It is still alpha, but we would appreciate early feedback. How do you like it? Would you include it in your code? More/other features?... Cheers, Friedger -- Al Sutton W: www.alsutton.com B: alsutton.wordpress.com T: twitter.com/alsutton --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Check for new version of applications
Friedger, How are you identifying the apps?, I'd happily add an extra field or two to the AndAppStore.com data that you can search for if it would be useful. Al. friedger wrote: The idea is that the Updater will also be able check all applications it knows about by a single button clicked or scheduled task. So, once the intent from one application is processed by the Update it is possible to include this application to the periodic update. A more general solution that includes all installed applications is currently not possible as I can't determine the location of the version info file. The apk mentioned above is provided for developers to test. In the release version the interval between two checks will be at least 24 hours, so you can start the service as often as you like but the check is only performed once every 24 hours. Furthermore, only the log cat shows whether the installed version is up-to-date or not. In both cases the notification is show (this is to simplify the tests). Would you like to have a different Notification text? Any ideas for icons? Friedger On 1 Nov., 13:18, Al Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Friedger, I've updated AndAppStore.com to provide a versionCode in the update.xml as you requested. At the moment anyone with applications listed will find that they can specify the versionCode in the details about a released version (not the application details page, the release details page). I am working on code to pull the information from the manifest included in the apk, but this is a little way off yet. Thanks for making this available. Al. friedger wrote: Hi, we are preparing the OI Updater that checks a given info file for new updates as described in the Android documentation. You can find the current build (rev 1284) at http://openintents.googlecode.com/files/UpdateChecker.apk In order to initiate the update check you just have to add the following code: Intent service = new Intent(); service.setAction(ACTION_CHECK_VERSION); String uri= http://uri-to-update-file.txt; service.setData(Uri.parse(link)); service.putExtra(package_name, context.getPackageName()); service.putExtra(app_name, context.getString(org.openintents.notepad.R.string.app_name)); int currentVersion = -1; PackageInfo pi = context.getPackageManager().getPackageInfo( context.getPackageName(), 0); currentVersion = pi.versionCode; service.putExtra(current_version, currentVersion); context.startService(service ); You can also put current_version_name if you check against the veecheck url at AndAppStore. It is still alpha, but we would appreciate early feedback. How do you like it? Would you include it in your code? More/other features?... Cheers, Friedger -- Al Sutton W:www.alsutton.com B: alsutton.wordpress.com T: twitter.com/alsutton -- Al Sutton W: www.alsutton.com B: alsutton.wordpress.com T: twitter.com/alsutton --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[android-developers] Re: Check for new version of applications
I'd say the package name is the global identifier. Maybe you can just provide a VeeCheck url based on the package name (as alternative to the app id). So I could check that url. If you don't host an app for the package name or if it is not unique you could return a HTTP 400. Friedger On 1 Nov., 17:37, Al Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friedger, How are you identifying the apps?, I'd happily add an extra field or two to the AndAppStore.com data that you can search for if it would be useful. Al. friedger wrote: The idea is that the Updater will also be able check all applications it knows about by a single button clicked or scheduled task. So, once the intent from one application is processed by the Update it is possible to include this application to the periodic update. A more general solution that includes all installed applications is currently not possible as I can't determine the location of the version info file. The apk mentioned above is provided for developers to test. In the release version the interval between two checks will be at least 24 hours, so you can start the service as often as you like but the check is only performed once every 24 hours. Furthermore, only the log cat shows whether the installed version is up-to-date or not. In both cases the notification is show (this is to simplify the tests). Would you like to have a different Notification text? Any ideas for icons? Friedger On 1 Nov., 13:18, Al Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Friedger, I've updated AndAppStore.com to provide a versionCode in the update.xml as you requested. At the moment anyone with applications listed will find that they can specify the versionCode in the details about a released version (not the application details page, the release details page). I am working on code to pull the information from the manifest included in the apk, but this is a little way off yet. Thanks for making this available. Al. friedger wrote: Hi, we are preparing the OI Updater that checks a given info file for new updates as described in the Android documentation. You can find the current build (rev 1284) at http://openintents.googlecode.com/files/UpdateChecker.apk In order to initiate the update check you just have to add the following code: Intent service = new Intent(); service.setAction(ACTION_CHECK_VERSION); String uri= http://uri-to-update-file.txt; service.setData(Uri.parse(link)); service.putExtra(package_name, context.getPackageName()); service.putExtra(app_name, context.getString(org.openintents.notepad.R.string.app_name)); int currentVersion = -1; PackageInfo pi = context.getPackageManager().getPackageInfo( context.getPackageName(), 0); currentVersion = pi.versionCode; service.putExtra(current_version, currentVersion); context.startService(service ); You can also put current_version_name if you check against the veecheck url at AndAppStore. It is still alpha, but we would appreciate early feedback. How do you like it? Would you include it in your code? More/other features?... Cheers, Friedger -- Al Sutton W:www.alsutton.com B: alsutton.wordpress.com T: twitter.com/alsutton -- Al Sutton W:www.alsutton.com B: alsutton.wordpress.com T: twitter.com/alsutton --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
