Re: [android-developers] Re: Input method randomly disabled?
On Tue, 31 May 2011 10:29:50 -0400 Mark Murphy wrote: I think that the long-term direction is to blur some of the space distinctions between internal and external storage, so that apps on the SD card can fade into history. I love the way symbian works in that you can have sd cards with different sets of apps and have a cleaner appless base if something goes wrong, just by booting without the card installed or removing it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Input method randomly disabled?
Thanks for the link... That's a shame that apps on the SD card have so many limitations. I'd rather not disable the ability to move to SD, as this app is much more than simply an input method, and I'd get far more complains about the inability to move to SD than I have about the input method being disabled. I'll add something to our Android Market listing about it, but it seems like Android should either add something to the input method enable screen about it, or the move to SD screen, or both. Drew On May 23, 5:23 pm, Kostya Vasilyev kmans...@gmail.com wrote: Have you seen this? http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/install-location.html#Sho... Applications That Should NOT Install on External Storage Input Method Engines Your IME will be replaced by the default IME. When external storage is remounted, the user can open system settings to enable your IME again. Do you see this happen when the phone's memory card is mounted on a computer? If so, this is expected, per the document above. -- Kostya 24.05.2011 1:17, Drew ?: After further debugging, it appears this problem is indeed an Android bug, and is only present if the app in question is moved to the SD card. I've reproduced with every app containing an input method that lets you move to SD so far. I guess I'll report it through more conventional channels. Drew On May 17, 3:58 pm, Drewzit...@gmail.com wrote: One of our Android applications contains an input method. A user recently reported that the input method is randomly being disabled. In other words, it's mysteriously no longer checked in Language keyboard settings. I can't reproduce, of course, and I wouldn't know where to begin debugging such a problem, since the code that enables and disables input methods is totally external to our application. The input method is originally based off the SoftKeyboard sample app that comes with the Android SDK. I've had to fix several bugs that were originally present in the SoftKeyboard sample app, so I wouldn't doubt a similar bug could be causing this, but I can't for the life of me think of a bug that would cause an input method to be disabled. He reports that other input methods, such as Swype and the default Android keyboard, don't behave this way. He has a Samsung Epic 4G running Android 2.2, if that matters. Any debugging ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Drew -- Kostya Vasilyev --http://kmansoft.wordpress.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Input method randomly disabled?
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Drew zit...@gmail.com wrote: That's a shame that apps on the SD card have so many limitations. I think that the long-term direction is to blur some of the space distinctions between internal and external storage, so that apps on the SD card can fade into history. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com | http://github.com/commonsguy http://commonsware.com/blog | http://twitter.com/commonsguy Android Training in NYC: http://marakana.com/training/android/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Input method randomly disabled?
On Tuesday, May 31, 2011 10:29:50 AM UTC-4, Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) wrote: On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Drew zit...@gmail.com wrote: That's a shame that apps on the SD card have so many limitations. I think that the long-term direction is to blur some of the space distinctions between internal and external storage, so that apps on the SD card can fade into history. Yeah... but now the postings from people experience pain from transition from USB mass storage to MTP are starting to show up. USB mass storage - surrendering the file system to an external computer - was never a good solution, except for its works everywhere portability. Until something post-mass-storage is consistently deployed on most desktops and understood by most desktop developers, there may not be a good solution. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Input method randomly disabled?
Apps on SD card is cr*p that I wish we'd never needed to do. The MTP approach with Honeycomb is far, far better. Issues with interacting through MTP from PCs can be worked out; having to use USB mass storage for transfer has fundamental issues such as requiring a hard partition between the storage areas, having to unmount during transfer, etc. On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Chris Stratton cs07...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, May 31, 2011 10:29:50 AM UTC-4, Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) wrote: On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Drew zit...@gmail.com wrote: That's a shame that apps on the SD card have so many limitations. I think that the long-term direction is to blur some of the space distinctions between internal and external storage, so that apps on the SD card can fade into history. Yeah... but now the postings from people experience pain from transition from USB mass storage to MTP are starting to show up. USB mass storage - surrendering the file system to an external computer - was never a good solution, except for its works everywhere portability. Until something post-mass-storage is consistently deployed on most desktops and understood by most desktop developers, there may not be a good solution. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Input method randomly disabled?
After further debugging, it appears this problem is indeed an Android bug, and is only present if the app in question is moved to the SD card. I've reproduced with every app containing an input method that lets you move to SD so far. I guess I'll report it through more conventional channels. Drew On May 17, 3:58 pm, Drew zit...@gmail.com wrote: One of our Android applications contains an input method. A user recently reported that the input method is randomly being disabled. In other words, it's mysteriously no longer checked in Language keyboard settings. I can't reproduce, of course, and I wouldn't know where to begin debugging such a problem, since the code that enables and disables input methods is totally external to our application. The input method is originally based off the SoftKeyboard sample app that comes with the Android SDK. I've had to fix several bugs that were originally present in the SoftKeyboard sample app, so I wouldn't doubt a similar bug could be causing this, but I can't for the life of me think of a bug that would cause an input method to be disabled. He reports that other input methods, such as Swype and the default Android keyboard, don't behave this way. He has a Samsung Epic 4G running Android 2.2, if that matters. Any debugging ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Drew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Input method randomly disabled?
Have you seen this? http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/install-location.html#ShouldNot Applications That Should NOT Install on External Storage Input Method Engines Your IME will be replaced by the default IME. When external storage is remounted, the user can open system settings to enable your IME again. Do you see this happen when the phone's memory card is mounted on a computer? If so, this is expected, per the document above. -- Kostya 24.05.2011 1:17, Drew ?: After further debugging, it appears this problem is indeed an Android bug, and is only present if the app in question is moved to the SD card. I've reproduced with every app containing an input method that lets you move to SD so far. I guess I'll report it through more conventional channels. Drew On May 17, 3:58 pm, Drewzit...@gmail.com wrote: One of our Android applications contains an input method. A user recently reported that the input method is randomly being disabled. In other words, it's mysteriously no longer checked in Language keyboard settings. I can't reproduce, of course, and I wouldn't know where to begin debugging such a problem, since the code that enables and disables input methods is totally external to our application. The input method is originally based off the SoftKeyboard sample app that comes with the Android SDK. I've had to fix several bugs that were originally present in the SoftKeyboard sample app, so I wouldn't doubt a similar bug could be causing this, but I can't for the life of me think of a bug that would cause an input method to be disabled. He reports that other input methods, such as Swype and the default Android keyboard, don't behave this way. He has a Samsung Epic 4G running Android 2.2, if that matters. Any debugging ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Drew -- Kostya Vasilyev -- http://kmansoft.wordpress.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
