Re: [android-developers] Re: Is there a min SDK level for android.hardware.telephony feature?
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: However, I notice this does not work (returns false) for some devices that definitely do have telephony (e.g. HTC Legend and Motorola Milestone). In both cases, they are running SDK 7, so I wonder whether this particular feature is an SDK 8+ thing? I'd say these devices simply have a firmware bug or something returning the wrong value. Agreed. I don't remember the Legend, but the Milestone would have shipped with an earlier version of Android than 2.1, then got OTA upgraded (or the equivalent). It may be that Motorola missed whatever corner of the firmware has the value that gets returned here. For the Milestone specifically, you might consider asking your question on the MOTODEV support boards. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com | http://github.com/commonsguy http://commonsware.com/blog | http://twitter.com/commonsguy Android 3.0 Programming Books: http://commonsware.com/books -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Is there a min SDK level for android.hardware.telephony feature?
I've experienced this with the following devices: Motorola Milestone (7), Spice Mi-310 (8), HTC Desire (7), Samsung Galaxy Apollo (7), T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide (7), ZTE Racer (7), Nokia N90 (10), Taiwan Mobile T2 (7), Samsung Galaxy 5 (7), HTC Legend (7) I expect some more devices will pop up over the next few days. Side note - Nokia N90!? To summarise, I think there are too many devices to hardcode these special cases. The sim card check may be enough though I'm still open to other suggestions... Actually, the main reason I'm checking for this is to know whether or not to show a list of SMS messages. So maybe a better approach would be to do a quick check for what the SMS content provider returns. Won't be good enough to check for the presence of messages (i.e. no messages won't prove anything) but maybe there is something else to check for in this regard to discover whether SMS messages are applicable to the device? 2011/4/23 Mark Murphy mmur...@commonsware.com On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: However, I notice this does not work (returns false) for some devices that definitely do have telephony (e.g. HTC Legend and Motorola Milestone). In both cases, they are running SDK 7, so I wonder whether this particular feature is an SDK 8+ thing? I'd say these devices simply have a firmware bug or something returning the wrong value. Agreed. I don't remember the Legend, but the Milestone would have shipped with an earlier version of Android than 2.1, then got OTA upgraded (or the equivalent). It may be that Motorola missed whatever corner of the firmware has the value that gets returned here. For the Milestone specifically, you might consider asking your question on the MOTODEV support boards. -- Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) http://commonsware.com | http://github.com/commonsguy http://commonsware.com/blog | http://twitter.com/commonsguy Android 3.0 Programming Books: http://commonsware.com/books -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Is there a min SDK level for android.hardware.telephony feature?
From what I have seen so far, TelephonyManager is never null (even for devices without telephony), so that check is no good. Maybe (for SDK level 7 and where the telephony feature value is missing) check TelephonyManager.getSimState() for TelephonyManager.SIM_STATE_READY instead? This is not perfect because the user may simply be using their phone without a sim card (and so may still want to access old SMS messages) but I think it's a fairly unlikely scenario... Any better ideas!? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Is there a min SDK level for android.hardware.telephony feature?
However, I notice this does not work (returns false) for some devices that definitely do have telephony (e.g. HTC Legend and Motorola Milestone). In both cases, they are running SDK 7, so I wonder whether this particular feature is an SDK 8+ thing? I'd say these devices simply have a firmware bug or something returning the wrong value. I would simply check for the wrong devices as a workaround and return true -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Is there a min SDK level for android.hardware.telephony feature?
there is no such thing as telephony in the android.hardware section http://developer.android.com/reference/android/hardware/package-summary.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Is there a min SDK level for android.hardware.telephony feature?
http://developer.android.com/search.html#q=android.hardware.telephony;http://developer.android.com/search.html#q= On 21 April 2011 18:34, lbendlin l...@bendlin.us wrote: there is no such thing as telephony in the android.hardware section http://developer.android.com/reference/android/hardware/package-summary.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Is there a min SDK level for android.hardware.telephony feature?
Do you mean android.telephony (no hardware., as was pointed out)? The docs say since API level 1, but having the feature string wrong could be your problem. String -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Is there a min SDK level for android.hardware.telephony feature?
That last link was broken: http://developer.android.com/search.html#q=android.hardware.telephonyt=0http://developer.android.com/search.html#q= http://developer.android.com/search.html#q=This next link shows it's definitely the correct feature: http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/optimizing-for-3.0.html#Telephony On 21 April 2011 18:55, String sterling.ud...@googlemail.com wrote: Do you mean android.telephony (no hardware., as was pointed out)? The docs say since API level 1, but having the feature string wrong could be your problem. String -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Is there a min SDK level for android.hardware.telephony feature?
Interesting: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/pm/PackageManager.html#FEATURE_TELEPHONY suggests that the telephony feature is since API level 7. Which makes it confusing why the check is not working on API level 7. I didn't see the (much more convenient) hasSystemFeature() method before, but I doubt that is causing the problem... On 21 April 2011 18:58:58 UTC+8, Mark Carter mjc1...@googlemail.com wrote: That last link was broken: http://developer.android.com/search.html#q=android.hardware.telephonyt=0http://developer.android.com/search.html#q= http://developer.android.com/search.html#q=This next link shows it's definitely the correct feature: http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/optimizing-for-3.0.html#Telephony On 21 April 2011 18:55, String sterling.ud...@googlemail.com wrote: Do you mean android.telephony (no hardware., as was pointed out)? The docs say since API level 1, but having the feature string wrong could be your problem. String -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Is there a min SDK level for android.hardware.telephony feature?
My apologies, it's an inconsistency between the feature strings and the android.* class hierarchy. Sorry for the misinformation. String -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Is there a min SDK level for android.hardware.telephony feature?
Anyone know of a more brut-force check for the presence of telephony? For example, maybe check Context.getSystemService(Context.TELEPHONY_SERVICE) for null? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
