[android-developers] Re: Problems with support from T-mobile/General Question

2009-03-12 Thread Al Sutton

I think 1 is best answered by a lawyer.

As for 2; Google works with the providers, but what the providers ship 
is the providers decision and not Googles.

Al.

Joseph G wrote:
 Hello,

 I am having an issue that looks to be a bug on my Tmobile G1,  but T-
 mobile isn't helping me resolve or expedite it.  The bug details are
 listed here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2083.

 T-mobile claims that I have the responsibility to troubleshoot Android
 and file bugs for a phone they support and run on their network.
 Humorously enough I went to the Better Business Bureau and so they
 finally got back to me after 5 separate calls to support.  They claim
 2 things that I am wondering about...

 1. Do providers have responsiblity for interfacing with you the
 Android team in submitting bugs on behalf of their supported
 consumers?  Or does the consumer?

 2. Do you have a team within the Android group at Google that works
 with the provider networks?

 BTW, the particular senior customer service manager I spoke with
 said that the issue related to the fact that Android was open source.
 Being a user, supporter and advocate of FOSS I had to stop and laugh.
 xD  I asked him what that had to do with it and I got no response.

 
   


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[android-developers] Re: Problems with support from T-mobile/General Question

2009-03-12 Thread Joseph G

Hello Dave/Al/ Everyone,

Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions.   If anyone
actually knows about how I should deal with situation please respond
to me off list.

No one else found it funny that T-mobile said the issues of the device
were BECAUSE it was open source!?  I just about had a laughing fit.
xD

Thanks,
Joe

On Mar 12, 3:10 am, Al Sutton a...@funkyandroid.com wrote:
 I think 1 is best answered by a lawyer.

 As for 2; Google works with the providers, but what the providers ship
 is the providers decision and not Googles.

 Al.



 Joseph G wrote:
  Hello,

  I am having an issue that looks to be a bug on my Tmobile G1,  but T-
  mobile isn't helping me resolve or expedite it.  The bug details are
  listed here:http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2083.

  T-mobile claims that I have the responsibility to troubleshoot Android
  and file bugs for a phone they support and run on their network.
  Humorously enough I went to the Better Business Bureau and so they
  finally got back to me after 5 separate calls to support.  They claim
  2 things that I am wondering about...

  1. Do providers have responsiblity for interfacing with you the
  Android team in submitting bugs on behalf of their supported
  consumers?  Or does the consumer?

  2. Do you have a team within the Android group at Google that works
  with the provider networks?

  BTW, the particular senior customer service manager I spoke with
  said that the issue related to the fact that Android was open source.
  Being a user, supporter and advocate of FOSS I had to stop and laugh.
  xD  I asked him what that had to do with it and I got no response.

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 necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
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[android-developers] Re: Problems with support from T-mobile/General Question

2009-03-11 Thread Dave Sparks

I can't comment on T-Mobile's obligations to you - that is determined
by the terms of the agreement you signed when you signed up. The
Android team does have liaisons who work with the carriers and device
manufacturers and we receive bug reports from them.

On Mar 11, 2:56 pm, Joseph G evolutionar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I am having an issue that looks to be a bug on my Tmobile G1,  but T-
 mobile isn't helping me resolve or expedite it.  The bug details are
 listed here:http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2083.

 T-mobile claims that I have the responsibility to troubleshoot Android
 and file bugs for a phone they support and run on their network.
 Humorously enough I went to the Better Business Bureau and so they
 finally got back to me after 5 separate calls to support.  They claim
 2 things that I am wondering about...

 1. Do providers have responsiblity for interfacing with you the
 Android team in submitting bugs on behalf of their supported
 consumers?  Or does the consumer?

 2. Do you have a team within the Android group at Google that works
 with the provider networks?

 BTW, the particular senior customer service manager I spoke with
 said that the issue related to the fact that Android was open source.
 Being a user, supporter and advocate of FOSS I had to stop and laugh.
 xD  I asked him what that had to do with it and I got no response.
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