[android-developers] Re: Receive notification for onDestroy, onStop, and onPause etc in other applications?

2009-01-03 Thread Dianne Hackborn
Please don't write an app that depends on parsing stuff out of the logs.
This is not a defined part of the SDK, and your app will surely break in the
future.

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:20 PM, focuser linto...@gmail.com wrote:


 Thanks Alistair and Dianne,

 Now I understand that a notification is not possible,

 But how does an app with READ_LOGS permission access system log?  I
 couldn't find any documentation about this either.  I'm guessing if
 one could read the log, the app could pretty much know when an app is
 killed because the ActivityManager write a line into the log when this
 happens.

 On Jan 2, 11:29 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote:
  No, sorry.
 
 
 
  On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 8:26 AM, focuser linto...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   anyone please?
 
   On Jan 1, 10:26 am, focuser linto...@gmail.com wrote:
Just to clarify: by this I meant to receive notification when
onDestroy, onStop etc in other applications are called, i.e. somehow
monitor the life cycle of apps running on the phone.
 
On Dec 31 2008, 5:01 pm, focuser linto...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Is there a way to programmatically receive notification onDestroy,
 onStop, and onPause etc in other applications on the phone?
 
 I see there's a READ_LOGS permission and guess this might be
 achieved
 by reading the system log.  But I couldn't find anything to access
 the
 system logs.
 
 Thanks and Happy New Year!
 
  --
  Dianne Hackborn
  Android framework engineer
  hack...@android.com
 
  Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
  provide private support.  All such questions should be posted on public
  forums, where I and others can see and answer them.
 



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[android-developers] Re: Receive notification for onDestroy, onStop, and onPause etc in other applications?

2009-01-03 Thread focuser

oh thanks Dianne,

Does that mean there's no defined ways so far to determine whether an
app is killed or not?

On Jan 3, 1:31 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote:
 Please don't write an app that depends on parsing stuff out of the logs.
 This is not a defined part of the SDK, and your app will surely break in the
 future.



 On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:20 PM, focuser linto...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks Alistair and Dianne,

  Now I understand that a notification is not possible,

  But how does an app with READ_LOGS permission access system log?  I
  couldn't find any documentation about this either.  I'm guessing if
  one could read the log, the app could pretty much know when an app is
  killed because the ActivityManager write a line into the log when this
  happens.

  On Jan 2, 11:29 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote:
   No, sorry.

   On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 8:26 AM, focuser linto...@gmail.com wrote:

anyone please?

On Jan 1, 10:26 am, focuser linto...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just to clarify: by this I meant to receive notification when
 onDestroy, onStop etc in other applications are called, i.e. somehow
 monitor the life cycle of apps running on the phone.

 On Dec 31 2008, 5:01 pm, focuser linto...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,

  Is there a way to programmatically receive notification onDestroy,
  onStop, and onPause etc in other applications on the phone?

  I see there's a READ_LOGS permission and guess this might be
  achieved
  by reading the system log.  But I couldn't find anything to access
  the
  system logs.

  Thanks and Happy New Year!

   --
   Dianne Hackborn
   Android framework engineer
   hack...@android.com

   Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
   provide private support.  All such questions should be posted on public
   forums, where I and others can see and answer them.

 --
 Dianne Hackborn
 Android framework engineer
 hack...@android.com

 Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
 provide private support.  All such questions should be posted on public
 forums, where I and others can see and answer them.
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[android-developers] Re: Receive notification for onDestroy, onStop, and onPause etc in other applications?

2009-01-02 Thread focuser

anyone please?

On Jan 1, 10:26 am, focuser linto...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just to clarify: by this I meant to receive notification when
 onDestroy, onStop etc in other applications are called, i.e. somehow
 monitor the life cycle of apps running on the phone.

 On Dec 31 2008, 5:01 pm, focuser linto...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,

  Is there a way to programmatically receive notification onDestroy,
  onStop, and onPause etc in other applications on the phone?

  I see there's a READ_LOGS permission and guess this might be achieved
  by reading the system log.  But I couldn't find anything to access the
  system logs.

  Thanks and Happy New Year!


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[android-developers] Re: Receive notification for onDestroy, onStop, and onPause etc in other applications?

2009-01-02 Thread Alistair.

Maybe your best best is to have a root around the Activity source code

http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/frameworks/base.git;a=blob;f=core/java/android/app/Activity.java;h=eafb0488490fd144fa6fac15cbd303dfd93eb894;hb=HEAD

Having said that the base activity doesn't seem to be signalling these
methods in any way so I think your plain out of luck.

Al.

On Jan 2, 4:26 pm, focuser linto...@gmail.com wrote:
 anyone please?

 On Jan 1, 10:26 am, focuser linto...@gmail.com wrote:

  Just to clarify: by this I meant to receive notification when
  onDestroy, onStop etc in other applications are called, i.e. somehow
  monitor the life cycle of apps running on the phone.

  On Dec 31 2008, 5:01 pm, focuser linto...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi,

   Is there a way to programmatically receive notification onDestroy,
   onStop, and onPause etc in other applications on the phone?

   I see there's a READ_LOGS permission and guess this might be achieved
   by reading the system log.  But I couldn't find anything to access the
   system logs.

   Thanks and Happy New Year!
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[android-developers] Re: Receive notification for onDestroy, onStop, and onPause etc in other applications?

2009-01-02 Thread Dianne Hackborn
No, sorry.

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 8:26 AM, focuser linto...@gmail.com wrote:


 anyone please?

 On Jan 1, 10:26 am, focuser linto...@gmail.com wrote:
  Just to clarify: by this I meant to receive notification when
  onDestroy, onStop etc in other applications are called, i.e. somehow
  monitor the life cycle of apps running on the phone.
 
  On Dec 31 2008, 5:01 pm, focuser linto...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hi,
 
   Is there a way to programmatically receive notification onDestroy,
   onStop, and onPause etc in other applications on the phone?
 
   I see there's a READ_LOGS permission and guess this might be achieved
   by reading the system log.  But I couldn't find anything to access the
   system logs.
 
   Thanks and Happy New Year!
 
 
 



-- 
Dianne Hackborn
Android framework engineer
hack...@android.com

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[android-developers] Re: Receive notification for onDestroy, onStop, and onPause etc in other applications?

2009-01-02 Thread focuser

Thanks Alistair and Dianne,

Now I understand that a notification is not possible,

But how does an app with READ_LOGS permission access system log?  I
couldn't find any documentation about this either.  I'm guessing if
one could read the log, the app could pretty much know when an app is
killed because the ActivityManager write a line into the log when this
happens.

On Jan 2, 11:29 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote:
 No, sorry.



 On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 8:26 AM, focuser linto...@gmail.com wrote:

  anyone please?

  On Jan 1, 10:26 am, focuser linto...@gmail.com wrote:
   Just to clarify: by this I meant to receive notification when
   onDestroy, onStop etc in other applications are called, i.e. somehow
   monitor the life cycle of apps running on the phone.

   On Dec 31 2008, 5:01 pm, focuser linto...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

Is there a way to programmatically receive notification onDestroy,
onStop, and onPause etc in other applications on the phone?

I see there's a READ_LOGS permission and guess this might be achieved
by reading the system log.  But I couldn't find anything to access the
system logs.

Thanks and Happy New Year!

 --
 Dianne Hackborn
 Android framework engineer
 hack...@android.com

 Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
 provide private support.  All such questions should be posted on public
 forums, where I and others can see and answer them.
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[android-developers] Re: Receive notification for onDestroy, onStop, and onPause etc in other applications?

2009-01-01 Thread focuser

Just to clarify: by this I meant to receive notification when
onDestroy, onStop etc in other applications are called, i.e. somehow
monitor the life cycle of apps running on the phone.

On Dec 31 2008, 5:01 pm, focuser linto...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Is there a way to programmatically receive notification onDestroy,
 onStop, and onPause etc in other applications on the phone?

 I see there's a READ_LOGS permission and guess this might be achieved
 by reading the system log.  But I couldn't find anything to access the
 system logs.

 Thanks and Happy New Year!
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