[android-developers] Re: Use shared preferences on non-app directory file
Then just use the SD card if you're only concerned about the less savvy freetards. That's a great perception you have of your users, by the way. I don't have a bad perception of my users, I was just being sarcastic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Use shared preferences on non-app directory file
Even with stock LVL the user can still clear the user data as it uses Shared Preferences. Using the SD card is a good idea whether you are using LVL or not. LVL is a sledgehammer to crack a nut in this case. On Dec 15, 4:18 am, Chris Stratton cs07...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 14, 5:33 pm, Jake Basile jakerbas...@gmail.com wrote: If it's for licensing, couldn't you use something like the LVLhttp://developer.android.com/guide/publishing/licensing.html? Anything you write to a system you don't control (the device) is going to be non-permanent. Right idea, but bagelboy would need his own server, as I don't believe the android market licensing service is available for free applications. Allowing it to be used for time limited trials might be a good idea though - it would make things very easy for the developer, since they'd just ship the paid apk and use some market setting to set the pre-purchase trial period. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Use shared preferences on non-app directory file
A user can clear app data, I want a file that is persistent On Dec 13, 9:50 pm, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 3:29 PM, bagelboy greg.do...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to use shared preferences on a different directory? What for? SharedPrefs are for storing name value pairs. What difference does it make where it's stored? - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Use shared preferences on non-app directory file
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 2:29 AM, bagelboy greg.do...@gmail.com wrote: A user can clear app data, I want a file that is persistent A user can clear their SD card, or perform a factor reset to wipe their phones. By that logic, there's no such thing as persistent data storage on a device. - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Use shared preferences on non-app directory file
You should use Amazon S3 for this purpose. Not only will your data be protected when the user clears data on the phone but the user can access their data on multiple phones. Here's the (beta) library from Amazon: http://aws.amazon.com/sdkforandroid/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Use shared preferences on non-app directory file
On Dec 14, 3:29 am, bagelboy greg.do...@gmail.com wrote: A user can clear app data, I want a file that is persistent If you find a way to do that, the android architects will probably consider it a bug in need of fixing. As an application developer you aren't supposed to be able to do anything permanent to the user's device. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Use shared preferences on non-app directory file
I understand your point, however as a developer I have a problem that needs fixing and this is one of the possible solutions. When google provide me a way to create demo and licensing algorithms that cannot be defeated by the user simply clearing the app data then I'll stop trying to find a way to create a persistent file. On Dec 14, 5:25 pm, Chris Stratton cs07...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 14, 3:29 am, bagelboy greg.do...@gmail.com wrote: A user can clear app data, I want a file that is persistent If you find a way to do that, the android architects will probably consider it a bug in need of fixing. As an application developer you aren't supposed to be able to do anything permanent to the user's device. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Use shared preferences on non-app directory file
No arguments here. I know it's not going to defeat all freetards but it will defeat the less savvy freetards. On Dec 14, 3:25 pm, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 2:29 AM, bagelboy greg.do...@gmail.com wrote: A user can clear app data, I want a file that is persistent A user can clear their SD card, or perform a factor reset to wipe their phones. By that logic, there's no such thing as persistent data storage on a device. - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: Use shared preferences on non-app directory file
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 3:12 PM, bagelboy greg.do...@gmail.com wrote: When google provide me a way to create demo and licensing algorithms that cannot be defeated by the user simply clearing the app data then I'll stop trying to find a way to create a persistent file. Looks like you're never going to stop trying then. Good luck. On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 3:13 PM, bagelboy greg.do...@gmail.com wrote: I know it's not going to defeat all freetards but it will defeat the less savvy freetards Then just use the SD card if you're only concerned about the less savvy freetards. That's a great perception you have of your users, by the way. - TreKing http://sites.google.com/site/rezmobileapps/treking - Chicago transit tracking app for Android-powered devices -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Use shared preferences on non-app directory file
On Dec 14, 4:12 pm, bagelboy greg.do...@gmail.com wrote: I understand your point, however as a developer I have a problem that needs fixing and this is one of the possible solutions. When google provide me a way to create demo and licensing algorithms that cannot be defeated by the user simply clearing the app data then I'll stop trying to find a way to create a persistent file. The simple answer is to create the persistent file on a computer you own (a remote server) rather than fighting google to try to create it on one owned by the user. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Use shared preferences on non-app directory file
If it's for licensing, couldn't you use something like the LVLhttp://developer.android.com/guide/publishing/licensing.html? Anything you write to a system you don't control (the device) is going to be non-permanent. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: Use shared preferences on non-app directory file
On Dec 14, 5:33 pm, Jake Basile jakerbas...@gmail.com wrote: If it's for licensing, couldn't you use something like the LVLhttp://developer.android.com/guide/publishing/licensing.html? Anything you write to a system you don't control (the device) is going to be non-permanent. Right idea, but bagelboy would need his own server, as I don't believe the android market licensing service is available for free applications. Allowing it to be used for time limited trials might be a good idea though - it would make things very easy for the developer, since they'd just ship the paid apk and use some market setting to set the pre-purchase trial period. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en