[android-developers] Re: Will ADP1 support payed apps from the store

2009-02-26 Thread Inderjeet Singh
Because on a phone with root access, you can easily copy a
copy-protected.apk file and that would defeat the purpose of
copy-protection.

A developer who wants to reach a broader segment of the market should not
use the copy-protection feature.

Inder


On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:39 AM, somatt  wrote:

>
> Why are copyrighted apps hidden?
>
> On Feb 26, 10:11 am, Inderjeet Singh  wrote:
> > The only apps that are hidden are copy-protected apps. If their is a
> priced
> > application that does not use that feature, it currently shows up on my
> dev
> > phone.
> >
> > One catch that I have discovered is that you need to have a SIM in the
> > phone.
> >
> > Inder
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:48 AM, vendor.net 
> wrote:
> >
> > > I am writing this, because of this news ->
> >
> > >http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/02/25/google-blocking-paid-market-.
> ..
> > > . Is this true? And will ADP1 support buying payed apps? I am truly
> > > hopping that it will, because otherwise we will be not able to see the
> > > competition`s apps and many more features which will be missing if
> > > there is no payed apps on the phone.
> >
> > > Thanks!
> >
>

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[android-developers] Re: Will ADP1 support payed apps from the store

2009-02-26 Thread Ivan Soto
Yeah, big disappointment here.
Google sells Developer phones to many countries like Canada but from here we
are not allowed to sell application or view paid applications. This is not
looking good for me since I don't see they will give a solution anytime
soon.

I'm really thinking to stop developing and move back the iPhone.

Ivan

2009/2/26 vendor.net 

>
> Android Market is one of the powers of Android. One market for all
> android apps. The other companies like Samsung, Motorola and etc. have
> no big interest  to make a different Markets. The center market is a
> big plus. There is no need to decentralize it. But this is not the
> point. My question is in other direction. Will be there a support for
> paid apps in ADP1. This problem should be solved.
>
> Amir Alagic написа:
> > I really don't belive that Android Market has bright future.
> > Everything is going slow and it is strange that developers can spend
> > 400 dollars plus shipping... but we can't sell applications.
> >
> > But that is not the only reason I think that Android Market is going
> > to loose its role. In future Samsung, LG and probably all other phone
> > manufacturers will have their own Markets.
> > Android OS is open source project and Samsung and other will probably
> > remove Android Market from their phones and will put shortcut to their
> > Market. Why to loose such opportunity?
> > They want money and don't want to give 30% to Google when they can
> > earn that money instead.
> >
> > I guess that phone manufacturers will create much better markets and
> > when they do that it will be faster and better because they need to
> > earn money now when phone sales are down.
> > So we'll have to wait few more months but I guess that from october or
> > november we'll have few first class markets available and only smaller
> > companies that don't have its own Markets will
> > let Google to ear 30%... But how long it will take before even smaller
> > players create their Markets is just question of time. In the
> > meanwhile switch to iPhone, Symbian or just continue to write
> > Android applications and the real markets will come...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 26, 12:48 pm, "vendor.net"  wrote:
> > > I am writing this, because of this news ->
> http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/02/25/google-blocking-paid-market-...
> > > . Is this true? And will ADP1 support buying payed apps? I am truly
> > > hopping that it will, because otherwise we will be not able to see the
> > > competition`s apps and many more features which will be missing if
> > > there is no payed apps on the phone.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> >
>

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[android-developers] Re: Will ADP1 support payed apps from the store

2009-02-26 Thread vendor.net

Android Market is one of the powers of Android. One market for all
android apps. The other companies like Samsung, Motorola and etc. have
no big interest  to make a different Markets. The center market is a
big plus. There is no need to decentralize it. But this is not the
point. My question is in other direction. Will be there a support for
paid apps in ADP1. This problem should be solved.

Amir Alagic написа:
> I really don't belive that Android Market has bright future.
> Everything is going slow and it is strange that developers can spend
> 400 dollars plus shipping... but we can't sell applications.
>
> But that is not the only reason I think that Android Market is going
> to loose its role. In future Samsung, LG and probably all other phone
> manufacturers will have their own Markets.
> Android OS is open source project and Samsung and other will probably
> remove Android Market from their phones and will put shortcut to their
> Market. Why to loose such opportunity?
> They want money and don't want to give 30% to Google when they can
> earn that money instead.
>
> I guess that phone manufacturers will create much better markets and
> when they do that it will be faster and better because they need to
> earn money now when phone sales are down.
> So we'll have to wait few more months but I guess that from october or
> november we'll have few first class markets available and only smaller
> companies that don't have its own Markets will
> let Google to ear 30%... But how long it will take before even smaller
> players create their Markets is just question of time. In the
> meanwhile switch to iPhone, Symbian or just continue to write
> Android applications and the real markets will come...
>
>
>
> On Feb 26, 12:48 pm, "vendor.net"  wrote:
> > I am writing this, because of this news 
> > ->http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/02/25/google-blocking-paid-market-...
> > . Is this true? And will ADP1 support buying payed apps? I am truly
> > hopping that it will, because otherwise we will be not able to see the
> > competition`s apps and many more features which will be missing if
> > there is no payed apps on the phone.
> >
> > Thanks!
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[android-developers] Re: Will ADP1 support payed apps from the store

2009-02-26 Thread BikingBill

Were doing ok in the Market.  In some cases the apps are doing as well
as their iPhone versions did.  Nice ratings on Pigs and Blackjack as
well.

William Volk - PlayScreen

On Feb 26, 9:20 am, Amir Alagic  wrote:
> I really don't belive that Android Market has bright future.
> Everything is going slow and it is strange that developers can spend
> 400 dollars plus shipping... but we can't sell applications.
>
> But that is not the only reason I think that Android Market is going
> to loose its role. In future Samsung, LG and probably all other phone
> manufacturers will have their own Markets.
> Android OS is open source project and Samsung and other will probably
> remove Android Market from their phones and will put shortcut to their
> Market. Why to loose such opportunity?
> They want money and don't want to give 30% to Google when they can
> earn that money instead.
>
> I guess that phone manufacturers will create much better markets and
> when they do that it will be faster and better because they need to
> earn money now when phone sales are down.
> So we'll have to wait few more months but I guess that from october or
> november we'll have few first class markets available and only smaller
> companies that don't have its own Markets will
> let Google to ear 30%... But how long it will take before even smaller
> players create their Markets is just question of time. In the
> meanwhile switch to iPhone, Symbian or just continue to write
> Android applications and the real markets will come...
>
> On Feb 26, 12:48 pm, "vendor.net"  wrote:
>
> > I am writing this, because of this news 
> > ->http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/02/25/google-blocking-paid-market-...
> > . Is this true? And will ADP1 support buying payed apps? I am truly
> > hopping that it will, because otherwise we will be not able to see the
> > competition`s apps and many more features which will be missing if
> > there is no payed apps on the phone.
>
> > Thanks!
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[android-developers] Re: Will ADP1 support payed apps from the store

2009-02-26 Thread somatt

Why are copyrighted apps hidden?

On Feb 26, 10:11 am, Inderjeet Singh  wrote:
> The only apps that are hidden are copy-protected apps. If their is a priced
> application that does not use that feature, it currently shows up on my dev
> phone.
>
> One catch that I have discovered is that you need to have a SIM in the
> phone.
>
> Inder
>
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:48 AM, vendor.net  wrote:
>
> > I am writing this, because of this news ->
>
> >http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/02/25/google-blocking-paid-market-...
> > . Is this true? And will ADP1 support buying payed apps? I am truly
> > hopping that it will, because otherwise we will be not able to see the
> > competition`s apps and many more features which will be missing if
> > there is no payed apps on the phone.
>
> > Thanks!
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[android-developers] Re: Will ADP1 support payed apps from the store

2009-02-26 Thread Inderjeet Singh
Google does not take a percentage from the 30% fee: it goes to carriers and
for billing settlement.

See the blog post:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-market-now-available-for-users.html



On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Amir Alagic  wrote:

>
> I really don't belive that Android Market has bright future.
> Everything is going slow and it is strange that developers can spend
> 400 dollars plus shipping... but we can't sell applications.
>
> But that is not the only reason I think that Android Market is going
> to loose its role. In future Samsung, LG and probably all other phone
> manufacturers will have their own Markets.
> Android OS is open source project and Samsung and other will probably
> remove Android Market from their phones and will put shortcut to their
> Market. Why to loose such opportunity?
> They want money and don't want to give 30% to Google when they can
> earn that money instead.
>
> I guess that phone manufacturers will create much better markets and
> when they do that it will be faster and better because they need to
> earn money now when phone sales are down.
> So we'll have to wait few more months but I guess that from october or
> november we'll have few first class markets available and only smaller
> companies that don't have its own Markets will
> let Google to ear 30%... But how long it will take before even smaller
> players create their Markets is just question of time. In the
> meanwhile switch to iPhone, Symbian or just continue to write
> Android applications and the real markets will come...
>
>
>
> On Feb 26, 12:48 pm, "vendor.net"  wrote:
> > I am writing this, because of this news ->
> http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/02/25/google-blocking-paid-market-...
> > . Is this true? And will ADP1 support buying payed apps? I am truly
> > hopping that it will, because otherwise we will be not able to see the
> > competition`s apps and many more features which will be missing if
> > there is no payed apps on the phone.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>

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[android-developers] Re: Will ADP1 support payed apps from the store

2009-02-26 Thread Inderjeet Singh
The only apps that are hidden are copy-protected apps. If their is a priced
application that does not use that feature, it currently shows up on my dev
phone.

One catch that I have discovered is that you need to have a SIM in the
phone.

Inder


On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:48 AM, vendor.net  wrote:

>
> I am writing this, because of this news ->
>
> http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/02/25/google-blocking-paid-market-apps-from-dev-phone-1-users/
> . Is this true? And will ADP1 support buying payed apps? I am truly
> hopping that it will, because otherwise we will be not able to see the
> competition`s apps and many more features which will be missing if
> there is no payed apps on the phone.
>
> Thanks!
> >
>

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[android-developers] Re: Will ADP1 support payed apps from the store

2009-02-26 Thread Amir Alagic

I really don't belive that Android Market has bright future.
Everything is going slow and it is strange that developers can spend
400 dollars plus shipping... but we can't sell applications.

But that is not the only reason I think that Android Market is going
to loose its role. In future Samsung, LG and probably all other phone
manufacturers will have their own Markets.
Android OS is open source project and Samsung and other will probably
remove Android Market from their phones and will put shortcut to their
Market. Why to loose such opportunity?
They want money and don't want to give 30% to Google when they can
earn that money instead.

I guess that phone manufacturers will create much better markets and
when they do that it will be faster and better because they need to
earn money now when phone sales are down.
So we'll have to wait few more months but I guess that from october or
november we'll have few first class markets available and only smaller
companies that don't have its own Markets will
let Google to ear 30%... But how long it will take before even smaller
players create their Markets is just question of time. In the
meanwhile switch to iPhone, Symbian or just continue to write
Android applications and the real markets will come...



On Feb 26, 12:48 pm, "vendor.net"  wrote:
> I am writing this, because of this news 
> ->http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/02/25/google-blocking-paid-market-...
> . Is this true? And will ADP1 support buying payed apps? I am truly
> hopping that it will, because otherwise we will be not able to see the
> competition`s apps and many more features which will be missing if
> there is no payed apps on the phone.
>
> Thanks!
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