[android-developers] Re: find word in faster speed
Don't forget there are more than data structures involved here. The method searching could be improved. As Jim suggested, breaking things down with an index (search for zulu beginning in the z section) could be sped up even more. Search for the last letter in the string first. By searching for that 4th character u first you've eliminated 3 other characters and can skip on to the next word. That way, similar words like zuch or zucchini won't slow you down matching the first two characters. Works even better for longer words. Marty On Dec 20, 4:16 pm, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com wrote: Right, but getting the huge thing in the right format, storing that statically, etc.., vs preloading the app with a database, which sounds easier? I just think the database sounds like the better way to go on this one, and I'm biased to not reinventing the wheel, but the OP is obviously free to use whatever.. kris On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 2:11 AM, Christopher Van Kirk christopher.vank...@gmail.com wrote: Then again a Trie isn't really that hard to write. On 12/20/2011 3:08 PM, Kristopher Micinski wrote: Right, But it does have the advantage that the technology on Android is already there, so he doesn't have to write the implementation himself, or grab one and learn to use it off the web. kris 2011/12/20 Christopher Van Kirk christopher.vank...@gmail.com: A conventional database isn't going to do better than a Trie, I think. On 12/20/2011 2:46 PM, felix wrote: Thanks a lot! I think I'll give database a try!:) On 12月20日, 下午1时49分, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com wrote: OH! Very sorry! I didn't see the 500, thousand!!! Kris On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, what a classic question in computer science :-) To really get the answer to this question, you're going to have to learn a little bit about data structures. Wait... How is it taking you *20 seconds* to find the word!? That's absurd! Really? You're doing string comparisons over 500 strings and it's taking you 20 seconds!? Anyway, there are two solutions, you might just try using a database, (not a bad idea, actually), or you might use a hash table (lookup HashTable), if you want to check for bogus words before searching (okay so this is a bit of a stretch and probably not useful but I think it deserves a mention) you can look at using a bloom filter... Obviously there are tons of other data structures you can use too. Kris P.s., (did I mention that you should probably be using a database, as, for Android, it's probably going the best acceptable solution that is fairly extensible. I'm sure somebody might bring up the possible badness of having it out on the SD card somewhere, but even this isn't so bad, especially compared to 20 seconds!) On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:26 AM, felix guofuchu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I'm working on a dict app on android, I need to search a list of words(about 500-600 thousand words) in file to find the word. It took me about 10-20 seconds to search the word. How can I improve the search speed? Thanks to all! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: find word in faster speed
Hi, I'm the auther of 9420 Thai Keyboard which incorporates English word suggestion feature as well. I've around 200K words and can look up in average of 80 mSec. Assuming the word DB is static, I've done the following... 1. pre-sorted your word in file. 2. pre-index your words. 3. Use binary search tree algorithm. You'll have to a bit careful the size of the index file, and very optimized on memory usage to avoid the delay from JAVA gabage collection as well. Cheers, Solution 9420... www.solution9420.com On Dec 20, 12:26 am, felix guofuchu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I'm working on a dict app on android, I need to search a list of words(about 500-600 thousand words) in file to find the word. It took me about 10-20 seconds to search the word. How can I improve the search speed? Thanks to all! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: find word in faster speed
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:10 AM, martypantsROK martyg...@gmail.com wrote: Don't forget there are more than data structures involved here. The method searching could be improved. As Jim suggested, breaking things down with an index (search for zulu beginning in the z section) could be sped up even more. Search for the last letter in the string first. By searching for that 4th character u first you've eliminated 3 other characters and can skip on to the next word. That way, similar words like zuch or zucchini won't slow you down matching the first two characters. Works even better for longer words. Marty I guess my point in all of this is that this searching is highly tied to your data structure. Good algorithms only work with good data structures to back them. And there are many indexing and optimization techniques you can use to get more efficiency. My point is, that since you can argue all day over these things getting more and more complicated data structures and searching algorithms (each becoming more and more context dependent), most of the time for this application using a database will suffice. If you use a database, whose indexing method is already going to be pretty good, and find it doesn't suit your needs, *then* you can switch over to using something fancier, though I highly doubt you'd need anything much fancier than a trie in this case. SQLite is using B+ trees for tables, while this isn't *amazing* (especially compared to what you'll see with a trie), it's still going to be massively better (where massively = logarithmic), than just linear search. Along with this, it looks like Solutin 9420 shared his advice... And don't forget about the bloom filter, (this won't actually help you that much unless you're doing a bunch of queries in a row, most of which might not be int he database, but I wanted to bring it up again anyway..) kris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: find word in faster speed
Three points. 1) Building the searching functionality twice is far more expensive than building it once, no matter what approach you use. Be sure that the performance of the DB approach is acceptable before you go and build it that way. 2) It can be quite challenging to get decent performance out of a database for something like this, depending on the functionality required. If, for example, you need real-time narrowing down of words, a database is going to be very slow (e.g. as you type letters, you get an alphabetized list of what's in the db). 3) There's probably an open source Trie out there somewhere that you can just use. Directed at the OP, of course. Cheers... On 12/20/2011 5:43 PM, Kristopher Micinski wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:10 AM, martypantsROKmartyg...@gmail.com wrote: Don't forget there are more than data structures involved here. The method searching could be improved. As Jim suggested, breaking things down with an index (search for zulu beginning in the z section) could be sped up even more. Search for the last letter in the string first. By searching for that 4th character u first you've eliminated 3 other characters and can skip on to the next word. That way, similar words like zuch or zucchini won't slow you down matching the first two characters. Works even better for longer words. Marty I guess my point in all of this is that this searching is highly tied to your data structure. Good algorithms only work with good data structures to back them. And there are many indexing and optimization techniques you can use to get more efficiency. My point is, that since you can argue all day over these things getting more and more complicated data structures and searching algorithms (each becoming more and more context dependent), most of the time for this application using a database will suffice. If you use a database, whose indexing method is already going to be pretty good, and find it doesn't suit your needs, *then* you can switch over to using something fancier, though I highly doubt you'd need anything much fancier than a trie in this case. SQLite is using B+ trees for tables, while this isn't *amazing* (especially compared to what you'll see with a trie), it's still going to be massively better (where massively = logarithmic), than just linear search. Along with this, it looks like Solutin 9420 shared his advice... And don't forget about the bloom filter, (this won't actually help you that much unless you're doing a bunch of queries in a row, most of which might not be int he database, but I wanted to bring it up again anyway..) kris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: find word in faster speed
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Christopher Van Kirk christopher.vank...@gmail.com wrote: Three points. 1) Building the searching functionality twice is far more expensive than building it once, no matter what approach you use. Be sure that the performance of the DB approach is acceptable before you go and build it that way. Okay. 2) It can be quite challenging to get decent performance out of a database for something like this, depending on the functionality required. If, for example, you need real-time narrowing down of words, a database is going to be very slow (e.g. as you type letters, you get an alphabetized list of what's in the db). True.. 3) There's probably an open source Trie out there somewhere that you can just use. Right, which is what I suggested in the first place if he goes this direction.. http://wikipedia-clustering.speedblue.org/trieJava.php kris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: find word in faster speed
Thanks a lot! I think I'll give database a try!:) On 12月20日, 下午1时49分, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com wrote: OH! Very sorry! I didn't see the 500, thousand!!! Kris On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, what a classic question in computer science :-) To really get the answer to this question, you're going to have to learn a little bit about data structures. Wait... How is it taking you *20 seconds* to find the word!? That's absurd! Really? You're doing string comparisons over 500 strings and it's taking you 20 seconds!? Anyway, there are two solutions, you might just try using a database, (not a bad idea, actually), or you might use a hash table (lookup HashTable), if you want to check for bogus words before searching (okay so this is a bit of a stretch and probably not useful but I think it deserves a mention) you can look at using a bloom filter... Obviously there are tons of other data structures you can use too. Kris P.s., (did I mention that you should probably be using a database, as, for Android, it's probably going the best acceptable solution that is fairly extensible. I'm sure somebody might bring up the possible badness of having it out on the SD card somewhere, but even this isn't so bad, especially compared to 20 seconds!) On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:26 AM, felix guofuchu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I'm working on a dict app on android, I need to search a list of words(about 500-600 thousand words) in file to find the word. It took me about 10-20 seconds to search the word. How can I improve the search speed? Thanks to all! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
[android-developers] Re: find word in faster speed
I've considered trie. But it consumes a lot of memory to construct... On 12月20日, 下午2时35分, Jim Graham spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 01:30:10AM -0500, Kristopher Micinski wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:27 AM, Jim Graham spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 09:26:11PM -0800, felix wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trie Wow...I never knew that had a name. :-) Later, --jim -- THE SCORE: ME: 2 CANCER: 0 73 DE N5IAL (/4)MiSTie #49997 Running FreeBSD 7.0 spooky1...@gmail.com ICBM/Hurricane: 30.44406N 86.59909W 'Wrong' is one of those concepts that depends on witnesses. --Catbert: Evil Director of Human Resources (Dilbert, 05Nov09) Android Apps Listing athttp://www.jstrack.org/barcodes.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: find word in faster speed
But you only have to construct it once. Many data structures with good lookup perf will take time to set up Kris P.s., However, databases are highly evolved, and do all of this very efficiently, so the whole argument is somewhat silly, as if you just use one you'll be fine. 2011/12/20 felix guofuchu...@gmail.com: I've considered trie. But it consumes a lot of memory to construct... On 12月20日, 下午2时35分, Jim Graham spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 01:30:10AM -0500, Kristopher Micinski wrote: On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:27 AM, Jim Graham spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 09:26:11PM -0800, felix wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trie Wow...I never knew that had a name. :-) Later, --jim -- THE SCORE: ME: 2 CANCER: 0 73 DE N5IAL (/4)MiSTie #49997 Running FreeBSD 7.0 spooky1...@gmail.com ICBM/Hurricane: 30.44406N 86.59909W 'Wrong' is one of those concepts that depends on witnesses. --Catbert: Evil Director of Human Resources (Dilbert, 05Nov09) Android Apps Listing athttp://www.jstrack.org/barcodes.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: find word in faster speed
A conventional database isn't going to do better than a Trie, I think. On 12/20/2011 2:46 PM, felix wrote: Thanks a lot! I think I'll give database a try!:) On 12月20日, 下午1时49分, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com wrote: OH! Very sorry! I didn't see the 500, thousand!!! Kris On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, what a classic question in computer science :-) To really get the answer to this question, you're going to have to learn a little bit about data structures. Wait... How is it taking you *20 seconds* to find the word!? That's absurd! Really? You're doing string comparisons over 500 strings and it's taking you 20 seconds!? Anyway, there are two solutions, you might just try using a database, (not a bad idea, actually), or you might use a hash table (lookup HashTable), if you want to check for bogus words before searching (okay so this is a bit of a stretch and probably not useful but I think it deserves a mention) you can look at using a bloom filter... Obviously there are tons of other data structures you can use too. Kris P.s., (did I mention that you should probably be using a database, as, for Android, it's probably going the best acceptable solution that is fairly extensible. I'm sure somebody might bring up the possible badness of having it out on the SD card somewhere, but even this isn't so bad, especially compared to 20 seconds!) On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:26 AM, felix guofuchu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I'm working on a dict app on android, I need to search a list of words(about 500-600 thousand words) in file to find the word. It took me about 10-20 seconds to search the word. How can I improve the search speed? Thanks to all! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: find word in faster speed
Right, But it does have the advantage that the technology on Android is already there, so he doesn't have to write the implementation himself, or grab one and learn to use it off the web. kris 2011/12/20 Christopher Van Kirk christopher.vank...@gmail.com: A conventional database isn't going to do better than a Trie, I think. On 12/20/2011 2:46 PM, felix wrote: Thanks a lot! I think I'll give database a try!:) On 12月20日, 下午1时49分, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com wrote: OH! Very sorry! I didn't see the 500, thousand!!! Kris On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, what a classic question in computer science :-) To really get the answer to this question, you're going to have to learn a little bit about data structures. Wait... How is it taking you *20 seconds* to find the word!? That's absurd! Really? You're doing string comparisons over 500 strings and it's taking you 20 seconds!? Anyway, there are two solutions, you might just try using a database, (not a bad idea, actually), or you might use a hash table (lookup HashTable), if you want to check for bogus words before searching (okay so this is a bit of a stretch and probably not useful but I think it deserves a mention) you can look at using a bloom filter... Obviously there are tons of other data structures you can use too. Kris P.s., (did I mention that you should probably be using a database, as, for Android, it's probably going the best acceptable solution that is fairly extensible. I'm sure somebody might bring up the possible badness of having it out on the SD card somewhere, but even this isn't so bad, especially compared to 20 seconds!) On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:26 AM, felix guofuchu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I'm working on a dict app on android, I need to search a list of words(about 500-600 thousand words) in file to find the word. It took me about 10-20 seconds to search the word. How can I improve the search speed? Thanks to all! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: find word in faster speed
Then again a Trie isn't really that hard to write. On 12/20/2011 3:08 PM, Kristopher Micinski wrote: Right, But it does have the advantage that the technology on Android is already there, so he doesn't have to write the implementation himself, or grab one and learn to use it off the web. kris 2011/12/20 Christopher Van Kirk christopher.vank...@gmail.com: A conventional database isn't going to do better than a Trie, I think. On 12/20/2011 2:46 PM, felix wrote: Thanks a lot! I think I'll give database a try!:) On 12月20日, 下午1时49分, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com wrote: OH! Very sorry! I didn't see the 500, thousand!!! Kris On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, what a classic question in computer science :-) To really get the answer to this question, you're going to have to learn a little bit about data structures. Wait... How is it taking you *20 seconds* to find the word!? That's absurd! Really? You're doing string comparisons over 500 strings and it's taking you 20 seconds!? Anyway, there are two solutions, you might just try using a database, (not a bad idea, actually), or you might use a hash table (lookup HashTable), if you want to check for bogus words before searching (okay so this is a bit of a stretch and probably not useful but I think it deserves a mention) you can look at using a bloom filter... Obviously there are tons of other data structures you can use too. Kris P.s., (did I mention that you should probably be using a database, as, for Android, it's probably going the best acceptable solution that is fairly extensible. I'm sure somebody might bring up the possible badness of having it out on the SD card somewhere, but even this isn't so bad, especially compared to 20 seconds!) On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:26 AM, felix guofuchu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I'm working on a dict app on android, I need to search a list of words(about 500-600 thousand words) in file to find the word. It took me about 10-20 seconds to search the word. How can I improve the search speed? Thanks to all! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: find word in faster speed
Right, but getting the huge thing in the right format, storing that statically, etc.., vs preloading the app with a database, which sounds easier? I just think the database sounds like the better way to go on this one, and I'm biased to not reinventing the wheel, but the OP is obviously free to use whatever.. kris On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 2:11 AM, Christopher Van Kirk christopher.vank...@gmail.com wrote: Then again a Trie isn't really that hard to write. On 12/20/2011 3:08 PM, Kristopher Micinski wrote: Right, But it does have the advantage that the technology on Android is already there, so he doesn't have to write the implementation himself, or grab one and learn to use it off the web. kris 2011/12/20 Christopher Van Kirk christopher.vank...@gmail.com: A conventional database isn't going to do better than a Trie, I think. On 12/20/2011 2:46 PM, felix wrote: Thanks a lot! I think I'll give database a try!:) On 12月20日, 下午1时49分, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com wrote: OH! Very sorry! I didn't see the 500, thousand!!! Kris On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Kristopher Micinski krismicin...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, what a classic question in computer science :-) To really get the answer to this question, you're going to have to learn a little bit about data structures. Wait... How is it taking you *20 seconds* to find the word!? That's absurd! Really? You're doing string comparisons over 500 strings and it's taking you 20 seconds!? Anyway, there are two solutions, you might just try using a database, (not a bad idea, actually), or you might use a hash table (lookup HashTable), if you want to check for bogus words before searching (okay so this is a bit of a stretch and probably not useful but I think it deserves a mention) you can look at using a bloom filter... Obviously there are tons of other data structures you can use too. Kris P.s., (did I mention that you should probably be using a database, as, for Android, it's probably going the best acceptable solution that is fairly extensible. I'm sure somebody might bring up the possible badness of having it out on the SD card somewhere, but even this isn't so bad, especially compared to 20 seconds!) On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:26 AM, felix guofuchu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I'm working on a dict app on android, I need to search a list of words(about 500-600 thousand words) in file to find the word. It took me about 10-20 seconds to search the word. How can I improve the search speed? Thanks to all! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en