[android-developers] Re: lights out mode PLUS menu soft key?
I hit the same problem with my app. Why is the menu button hidden in the higher Android versions? If the Home and Back buttons are going to be there, why not also keep the menu button in the status bar? Is the menu system deprecated? I don't want to create a separate UI for this when there is already space at the bottom for such options. Moreover the Menu thing is an established paradigm for years; why should users and developers change the paradigm for no apparent reason. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: lights out mode PLUS menu soft key?
Yes the menu button is deprecated. The menu is now part of the ActionBar as described at http://developer.android.com/design/patterns/actionbar.html On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Harshad harshad...@gmail.com wrote: I hit the same problem with my app. Why is the menu button hidden in the higher Android versions? If the Home and Back buttons are going to be there, why not also keep the menu button in the status bar? Is the menu system deprecated? I don't want to create a separate UI for this when there is already space at the bottom for such options. Moreover the Menu thing is an established paradigm for years; why should users and developers change the paradigm for no apparent reason. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: lights out mode PLUS menu soft key?
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.comwrote: Yes the menu button is deprecated. The menu is now part of the ActionBar as described at http://developer.android.com/design/patterns/actionbar.html Thanks for the clear response Dianne. I wasn't aware of it being deprecated. If managers of the AOSP care for feedback, let me just say *this sucks!* Single developers have to already break their backs to handle hardware fragmentation. On top of this, there is software fragmentation due to manufacturer/vendor added skins (though I appreciate efforts like the Halo theme). And now basic paradigms are also changing between Android versions. All the design effort in my app for previous versions of Android is wasted; there is absolutely no space left for an on-screen menu button in my app, and certainly not for an action bar, so I will have to redesign everything or walk the low path and just tuck the button in there somewhere :) Also, from user point of view, if he/she has multiple devices with different Android versions, they are going to see different UIs for the same app! Please lets channel our collective energies into something more productive. cheers, -- Harshad RJ http://lavadip.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
Re: [android-developers] Re: lights out mode PLUS menu soft key?
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.comwrote: Yes the menu button is deprecated. The menu is now part of the ActionBar as described at http://developer.android.com/design/patterns/actionbar.html There's also an Android Developers blog post on this: http://android-developers.blogspot.in/2012/01/say-goodbye-to-menu-button.html I had somehow missed that. Hopefully that's useful to the next person who bumps into this thread. In that post: The only exception is that if you set minSdkVersion to 10 or lower, set targetSdkVersion to 11, 12, or 13, and you do not use ActionBarhttp://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/ActionBar.html, the system *will* add the legacy overflow button when running your app *on a handset* with Android 4.0 or higher. I am not able to trigger the overflow button this way. In my AndroidManifest.xml I have: uses-sdk android:minSdkVersion=7 android:targetSdkVersion=11 / and application android:theme=@android:style/Theme.Holo.NoActionBar But this doesn't show the legacy overflow buttons. If I could get that to work, it will solve the immediate problem I am facing which is to get into Lights off mode and yet have a way to go to the legacy options menu from the navigation bar on the bottom . thanks, -- Harshad RJ http://lavadip.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
