Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Development Income Tax Question

2011-01-22 Thread Marcin Orlowski
On 22 January 2011 09:26, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote:
 The US is the only country in the world that taxes their own citizens
 on income earned overseas

No. Every country does that.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Development Income Tax Question

2011-01-21 Thread Justin Giles
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does Google send us a W-2?


No.  At least last tax season they didn't.  Don't rely on any ad companies
to do it either.  Basically it's the honor system it appears.  Again, talk
to a professional you trust and always err on the side of caution.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Development Income Tax Question

2011-01-21 Thread Justin Giles
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:22 AM, DanH danhi...@ieee.org wrote:

 True -- anyone who's able to read programming manuals should be able
 to penetrate the tax instructions sufficiently to handle this.  Just
 be aware that there IS paperwork that needs to be done.

 And don't count on the money not being reported and try to hide it --
 in theory Google and others should be providing you with a 1099, and
 they'll send the same info to the government.  If you don't file the
 right form the tax man might come knocking.


Also, for those who have made any significant amount of income, you should
probably be making quarterly payments throughout the year, or risk
additional fees at the end of the year.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Development Income Tax Question

2011-01-21 Thread TreKing
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Justin Giles jtgi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also, for those who have made any significant amount of income, you should
 probably be making quarterly payments throughout the year, or risk
 additional fees at the end of the year.


Can you define significant for those of us whose eyes glaze over at the
mean mention of doing taxes?

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Development Income Tax Question

2011-01-21 Thread Justin Giles
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:39 AM, TreKing treking...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Justin Giles jtgi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also, for those who have made any significant amount of income, you should
 probably be making quarterly payments throughout the year, or risk
 additional fees at the end of the year.


 Can you define significant for those of us whose eyes glaze over at the
 mean mention of doing taxes?


Here are some guidelines
http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=110413,00.html

Basically if after all of your deductions, credits, income, etc. are taken
into account, if you owe more than $1000 (ie: not getting a refund) then you
should have been or should for future years be paying your estimated taxes.
 There are some fines that could go into affect if you owe more than a
certain amount.  I'm not sure what those are though.  I think they are a
percentage of what is owed or something.

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Development Income Tax Question

2011-01-21 Thread TreKing
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Justin Giles jtgi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here are some guidelines
 http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=110413,00.html


Thanks. You know what, I'm going back to TurboTax, going to fill out
everything to the best of my ability, then going to pray.
And if the IRS comes knocking, I'll play stupid. What are these 'taxes' you
speak of!?

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Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Development Income Tax Question

2011-01-21 Thread Brad Gies


The IRS will ALWAYS give you the benefit of the doubt the FIRST YEAR 
ONLY. In fact, according to the rules the need to file quarterly only 
kicks in IF you owed more than $1,000 the previous year... You generally 
won't be penalized if you fail to file at the end of the first quarter 
if you haven't filed your taxes for the previous year yet because you 
may not even know you owe more than $1,000 (this is not law just the IRS 
guidelines). They may access the penalties but they will always waive 
them if you talk to them (nicely).


What you should do is figure out the rough amount you would owe just 
before the end of the year... and send them enough money to make sure 
you owe less than $1,000 when you file the taxes. If you do that, you 
will never trigger the requirement to file quarterly and it saves you a 
bunch of work. Again.. this is not law... but it is how it works.


For what it's worth.. I'm not an accountant (but then most accountants 
actually know VERY LITTLE about taxes).. but I did operate a rather 
large income tax franchise for several years, and I've only met one 
accountant who knew more about U.S. taxes than I did, compared to about 
200-300 who knew a lot less.


In general... if you do use an accountant, get one who specializes in 
business taxes. A normal accountant just does not know much about 
them... even if they tell you they do. When I had the tax franchise, 
every year we would get 40-50 customers coming in and we would have to 
file amendments to their previous years taxes because the accountants 
had done such a lousy job. In one case, we amended the previous 3 years 
and got a woman over $50,000 back after her accountant screwed it up so 
badly.


Sincerely,

Brad Gies
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On 21/01/2011 12:14 PM, DanH wrote:

Basically, if you make enough that you'd end up owing the tax man more
than an nominal sum at the end of the year, you need to make estimated
income tax payments.  However, if you have a day job that has
regular withholding, you can probably up the amount of withholding
(eg, declare fewer exemptions on your W4) and not have to make the
separate payments.  Also, the IRS gives you something of a grace
period for your first year (though the rules on that are kind of
fuzzy).

In my case I have to make estimated state tax payments on my 1099
income, but my federal is covered by the withholding from my pension.

Using something like TurboTax is a good idea.  Generally it will lead
you through all the right steps (although the recent year versions
have gone overboard on guiding you, to the point that you sometimes
want to drop-kick the whole thing).

On Jan 21, 10:39 am, TreKingtreking...@gmail.com  wrote:

On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Justin Gilesjtgi...@gmail.com  wrote:

Also, for those who have made any significant amount of income, you should
probably be making quarterly payments throughout the year, or risk
additional fees at the end of the year.

Can you define significant for those of us whose eyes glaze over at the
mean mention of doing taxes?

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transit tracking app for Android-powered devices


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