Re: [Angstrom-devel] Failed to generate the 4.6.3 qt4e with gles activated

2011-06-08 Thread Joaquim Duran
Tonight I've rebuild the qt4-embedded-gles_4.6.3 from scratch (I've
 removed the folder tmp-angstrom_2008_1). The result has been:

 $ qt4-embedded-gles
 [...]
 Packaged contents of qt4-embedded-plugin-phonon-backend-gstreamer-dbg
 into 
/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv7a/qt4-embedded-plugin-phonon-backend-gstreamer-dbg_4.6.3-r29.2.6_armv7a.ipk
 NOTE: package qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2: task do_package_write_ipk: Succeeded
 NOTE: Running task 4689 of 4697 (ID: 476,
 
/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/sources/openembedded/recipes/qt4/qt4-embedded_4.6.3.bb,
 do_package_write)
 NOTE: package qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2: task do_package_write: Started
 NOTE: package qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2: task do_package_write: Succeeded
 NOTE: Running task 4690 of 4697 (ID: 477,
 
/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/sources/openembedded/recipes/qt4/qt4-embedded_4.6.3.bb,
 do_package_stage)
 NOTE: package qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2: task do_package_stage: Started
 ERROR: Logfile of failure stored in: /dev/null
 Log data follows:
 NOTE: package qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2: task staging_packager: Failed
 ERROR: Function 'staging_packager' failed (see /dev/null for further
 information)
 ERROR: Task 6 
(/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/sources/openembedded/recipes/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.6.3.bb,
 do_package_stage) failed with exit code '1'
 Waiting for 1 active tasks to finish:
 0: qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2 do_package_stage (pid 31830)
 NOTE: package qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2: task do_package_stage: Succeeded
 ERROR: 
'/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/sources/openembedded/recipes/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.6.3.bb'
 failed

 After that, I've executed the command once again and the result has been:

 Packaged contents of libqt-embeddeddbus4 into
 
/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv7a/libqtdbuse4_4.6.3-r29.2.6_armv7a.ipk
 tar: ./usr/lib/libQtDesignerE.so.4.6.3: file changed as we read it
 tar: ./usr/lib/libQtDesignerE.so.4.6: File removed before we read it
 tar: ./usr/lib/libQtDesignerE.so.4: File removed before we read it
 tar: ./usr/lib: file changed as we read it
 tar: ./usr: file changed as we read it
 tar: .: file changed as we read it
 ERROR: Error executing a python function in
 
/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/sources/openembedded/recipes/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.6.3.bb:
 OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
 
'/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2/packages-split/libqt-embeddeddesigner4.lock'

 ERROR: The stack trace of python calls that resulted in this
 exception/failure was:
 ERROR:   File do_package_ipk, line 168, in module
 ERROR:
 ERROR:   File do_package_ipk, line 161, in do_package_ipk
 ERROR:
 ERROR:   File 
/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/sources/bitbake/lib/bb/utils.py,
 line 444, in unlockfile
 ERROR: os.unlink(lf.name)
 ERROR:
 ERROR: The code that was being executed was:
 ERROR:  0164:   bb.utils.prunedir(controldir)
 ERROR:  0165:   bb.utils.unlockfile(lf)
 ERROR:  0166:
 ERROR:  0167:
 ERROR:  *** 0168:do_package_ipk(d)
 ERROR:  0169:
 ERROR: (file: 'do_package_ipk', lineno: 168, function: module)
 ERROR:  0157:   os.chdir(basedir)
 ERROR:  0158:   ret = os.system(PATH=\%s\ %s %s %s %
 (bb.data.getVar(PATH, localdata, 1),
 ERROR:  0159:
bb.data.getVar(OPKGBUILDCMD,d,1), pkg, pkgoutdir))
 ERROR:  0160:   if ret != 0:
 ERROR:  *** 0161:   bb.utils.unlockfile(lf)
 ERROR:  0162:   raise
bb.build.FuncFailed(opkg-build execution failed)
 ERROR:  0163:
 ERROR:  0164:   bb.utils.prunedir(controldir)
 ERROR:  0165:   bb.utils.unlockfile(lf)
 ERROR: (file: 'do_package_ipk', lineno: 161, function: do_package_ipk)
 NOTE: package qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2: task do_package_ipk: Failed
 ERROR: Function 'do_package_ipk' failed
 ERROR: Task 19
(/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/sources/openembedded/recipes/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.6.3.bb,
 do_package_write_ipk) failed with exit code '1'
 Waiting for 1 active tasks to finish:
 0: qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2 do_rm_work (pid 12737)
 NOTE: package qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2: task do_rm_work: Succeeded
 ERROR: 
'/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/sources/openembedded/recipes/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.6.3.bb'
 failed


Re: [Angstrom-devel] Failed to generate the 4.6.3 qt4e with gles activated

2011-06-08 Thread Paul Menzel
Dear Joaquim,


please adhere to the netiquette and use interleaved style instead of top
posting [1].

Am Mittwoch, den 08.06.2011, 09:40 +0200 schrieb Joaquim Duran:
 Tonight I've rebuild the qt4-embedded-gles_4.6.3 from scratch (I've
  removed the folder tmp-angstrom_2008_1). The result has been:
 
  $ qt4-embedded-gles

That is probably not the command you executed. What did you execute?
Please also paste the output of the build configuration. (If you use
BitBake ≥ 1.10.x this should be printed to the terminal.)

  [...]
  Packaged contents of qt4-embedded-plugin-phonon-backend-gstreamer-dbg
  into 
 /home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv7a/qt4-embedded-plugin-phonon-backend-gstreamer-dbg_4.6.3-r29.2.6_armv7a.ipk
  NOTE: package qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2: task do_package_write_ipk: Succeeded
  NOTE: Running task 4689 of 4697 (ID: 476,
  
 /home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/sources/openembedded/recipes/qt4/qt4-embedded_4.6.3.bb,
  do_package_write)
  NOTE: package qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2: task do_package_write: Started
  NOTE: package qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2: task do_package_write: Succeeded
  NOTE: Running task 4690 of 4697 (ID: 477,
  
 /home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/sources/openembedded/recipes/qt4/qt4-embedded_4.6.3.bb,
  do_package_stage)
  NOTE: package qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2: task do_package_stage: Started
  ERROR: Logfile of failure stored in: /dev/null
  Log data follows:
  NOTE: package qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2: task staging_packager: Failed
  ERROR: Function 'staging_packager' failed (see /dev/null for further 
 information)

It is really strange that no log file is stored.

  ERROR: Task 6 
 (/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/sources/openembedded/recipes/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.6.3.bb,
  do_package_stage) failed with exit code '1'
  Waiting for 1 active tasks to finish:
  0: qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2 do_package_stage (pid 31830)
  NOTE: package qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2: task do_package_stage: Succeeded
  ERROR: 
 '/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/sources/openembedded/recipes/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.6.3.bb'
  failed
 
  After that, I've executed the command once again and the result has been:
 
  Packaged contents of libqt-embeddeddbus4 into
  
 /home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv7a/libqtdbuse4_4.6.3-r29.2.6_armv7a.ipk
  tar: ./usr/lib/libQtDesignerE.so.4.6.3: file changed as we read it
  tar: ./usr/lib/libQtDesignerE.so.4.6: File removed before we read it
  tar: ./usr/lib/libQtDesignerE.so.4: File removed before we read it
  tar: ./usr/lib: file changed as we read it
  tar: ./usr: file changed as we read it
  tar: .: file changed as we read it

Did you do something in parallel? That really looks fishy.

  ERROR: Error executing a python function in
  
 /home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/sources/openembedded/recipes/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.6.3.bb:
  OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
  
 '/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2/packages-split/libqt-embeddeddesigner4.lock'
 
  ERROR: The stack trace of python calls that resulted in this
  exception/failure was:

Please turn off line wrapping when pasting logs!

  ERROR:   File do_package_ipk, line 168, in module
  ERROR:
  ERROR:   File do_package_ipk, line 161, in do_package_ipk
  ERROR:
  ERROR:   File 
 /home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/sources/bitbake/lib/bb/utils.py,
  line 444, in unlockfile
  ERROR: os.unlink(lf.name)
  ERROR:
  ERROR: The code that was being executed was:
  ERROR:  0164:   bb.utils.prunedir(controldir)
  ERROR:  0165:   bb.utils.unlockfile(lf)
  ERROR:  0166:
  ERROR:  0167:
  ERROR:  *** 0168:do_package_ipk(d)
  ERROR:  0169:
  ERROR: (file: 'do_package_ipk', lineno: 168, function: module)
  ERROR:  0157:   os.chdir(basedir)
  ERROR:  0158:   ret = os.system(PATH=\%s\ %s %s %s %
  (bb.data.getVar(PATH, localdata, 1),
  ERROR:  0159:
 bb.data.getVar(OPKGBUILDCMD,d,1), pkg, pkgoutdir))
  ERROR:  0160:   if ret != 0:
  ERROR:  *** 0161:   bb.utils.unlockfile(lf)
  ERROR:  0162:   raise
 bb.build.FuncFailed(opkg-build execution failed)
  ERROR:  0163:
  ERROR:  0164:   bb.utils.prunedir(controldir)
  ERROR:  0165:   bb.utils.unlockfile(lf)
  ERROR: (file: 'do_package_ipk', lineno: 161, function: do_package_ipk)
  NOTE: package 

Re: [Angstrom-devel] Failed to generate the 4.6.3 qt4e with gles activated

2011-06-08 Thread Joaquim Duran
Paul,

 Am Mittwoch, den 08.06.2011, 09:40 +0200 schrieb Joaquim Duran:
 Tonight I've rebuild the qt4-embedded-gles_4.6.3 from scratch (I've
  removed the folder tmp-angstrom_2008_1). The result has been:

  $ qt4-embedded-gles

 That is probably not the command you executed. What did you execute?
 Please also paste the output of the build configuration. (If you use
 BitBake ≥ 1.10.x this should be printed to the terminal.)

Sorry, the command is invalid. I didn't included the build
configuration as I posted it in a previous e-mail. Anyway I'll include
here:

$bitbake qt4-embedded-gles

BB_VERSION= 1.12.0
METADATA_BRANCH   = 2011.03-maintenance
METADATA_REVISION = dd8ac3a
TARGET_ARCH   = arm
TARGET_OS = linux-gnueabi
MACHINE   = beagleboard
DISTRO= angstrom
DISTRO_VERSION= 2011.03
TARGET_FPU= hard

  [...]
  ERROR: Task 6 
 (/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/sources/openembedded/recipes/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.6.3.bb,
  do_package_stage) failed with exit code '1'
  Waiting for 1 active tasks to finish:
  0: qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2 do_package_stage (pid 31830)
  NOTE: package qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2: task do_package_stage: Succeeded
  ERROR: 
 '/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/sources/openembedded/recipes/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.6.3.bb'
  failed

  After that, I've executed the command once again and the result has been:

  Packaged contents of libqt-embeddeddbus4 into
  /home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv7a/libqtdbuse4_4.6.3-r29.2.6_armv7a.ipk
  tar: ./usr/lib/libQtDesignerE.so.4.6.3: file changed as we read it
  tar: ./usr/lib/libQtDesignerE.so.4.6: File removed before we read it
  tar: ./usr/lib/libQtDesignerE.so.4: File removed before we read it
  tar: ./usr/lib: file changed as we read it
  tar: ./usr: file changed as we read it
  tar: .: file changed as we read it

 Did you do something in parallel? That really looks fishy.

Yes, it was configured BB_NUMBER_THREADS = 2. Look at the end of the message.

  ERROR: Error executing a python function in
  /home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/sources/openembedded/recipes/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.6.3.bb:
  OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
  '/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2/packages-split/libqt-embeddeddesigner4.lock'

  ERROR: The stack trace of python calls that resulted in this
  exception/failure was:

 Please turn off line wrapping when pasting logs!

That's difficult to do: gmail is still wrapping lines at column 78. I
could attach files with the log messages included.

  0: qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2 do_rm_work (pid 12737)
  NOTE: package qt4-embedded-4.6.3-r29.2: task do_rm_work: Succeeded
  ERROR: 
 '/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/sources/openembedded/recipes/qt4/qt4-embedded-gles_4.6.3.bb'
  failed


It isn't so strange. For some reason bitbake tries to build
qt4-embedded-4.6.3 and qt4-embedded-gles_4.6.3 at the same same, and
some collisions appears.

Joaquim Duran

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Re: [Angstrom-devel] Failed to generate the 4.6.3 qt4e with gles activated

2011-06-07 Thread Koen Kooi

Op 7 jun 2011, om 12:32 heeft Joaquim Duran het volgende geschreven:

 Dear all,
 
 I've detected an error when generating qt4-embedded-gles-4.6.3 receipe.

did you clean the non-gles recipe first?


 
 Build Configuration:
 BB_VERSION= 1.12.0
 METADATA_BRANCH   = 2011.03-maintenance
 METADATA_REVISION = dd8ac3a
 TARGET_ARCH   = arm
 TARGET_OS = linux-gnueabi
 MACHINE   = beagleboard
 DISTRO= angstrom
 DISTRO_VERSION= 2011.03
 TARGET_FPU= hard
 
 | make[1]: Entering directory
 `/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/qt4-embedded-gles-4.6.3-r29.8/qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.6.3/src/opengl'
 | rm -f libQtOpenGLE.so.4.6.3 libQtOpenGLE.so libQtOpenGLE.so.4
 libQtOpenGLE.so.4.6
 | arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-g++ -march=armv7-a -mtune=cortex-a8
 -mfpu=neon -mfloat-abi=softfp -mthumb-interwork -mno-thumb
 --sysroot=/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/sysroots/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi
 -Wl,-rpath-link,/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/sysroots/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib
 -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--hash-style=gnu -Wl,--no-undefined -shared
 -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-soname,libQtOpenGLE.so.4 -o
 libQtOpenGLE.so.4.6.3 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qgl.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qglcolormap.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qglpixelbuffer.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qglframebufferobject.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qglextensions.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qglpaintdevice.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qglshaderprogram.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qglpixmapfilter.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qgraphicsshadereffect.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qgraphicssystem_gl.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qwindowsurface_gl.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qpixmapdata_gl.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qglgradientcache.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qglengineshadermanager.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qgl2pexvertexarray.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qpaintengineex_opengl2.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qglcustomshaderstage.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qtriangulatingstroker.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qtextureglyphcache_gl.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qgl_qws.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qglpixelbuffer_egl.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qglscreen_qws.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qglwindowsurface_qws.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qgl_egl.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/moc_qgl.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/moc_qgl_p.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/moc_qglshaderprogram.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/moc_qgraphicsshadereffect_p.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/moc_qwindowsurface_gl_p.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/moc_qglengineshadermanager_p.o
 .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/moc_qtextureglyphcache_gl_p.o
 -L/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/sysroots/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib
 -L/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/qt4-embedded-gles-4.6.3-r29.8/qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.6.3/lib
 -L 
 -Wl,-rpath-link,/home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/qt4-embedded-gles-4.6.3-r29.8/qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.6.3/lib
 -lQtGuiE -lQtNetworkE -lQtCoreE -lglib-2.0 -lpthread -lEGL -lIMGegl
 -lsrv_um -lEGL -lGLESv2 -lGLES_CM -lIMGegl -lsrv_um
 | .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qgl_qws.o: In function
 `qt_egl_add_platform_config(QEglProperties, QPaintDevice*)':
 | 
 /home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/qt4-embedded-gles-4.6.3-r29.8/qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.6.3/src/opengl/qgl_qws.cpp:134:
 undefined reference to
 `QEglProperties::setPixelFormat(QImage::Format)'
 | 
 /home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/qt4-embedded-gles-4.6.3-r29.8/qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.6.3/src/opengl/qgl_qws.cpp:132:
 undefined reference to
 `QEglProperties::setPixelFormat(QImage::Format)'
 | .obj/release-shared-emb-arm/qgl_qws.o: In function
 `QGLContext::chooseContext(QGLContext const*)':
 | 
 /home/jduran/projectes/gem_heard_two/tao-3530/openembedded/angstrom-setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/qt4-embedded-gles-4.6.3-r29.8/qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.6.3/src/opengl/qgl_qws.cpp:199:
 undefined reference to `QEglContext::QEglContext()'
 | 
 

Re: [Angstrom-devel] Failed to generate the 4.6.3 qt4e with gles activated

2011-06-07 Thread Joaquim Duran
2011/6/7 Koen Kooi k...@dominion.thruhere.net:

 Op 7 jun 2011, om 12:32 heeft Joaquim Duran het volgende geschreven:

 Dear all,

 I've detected an error when generating qt4-embedded-gles-4.6.3 receipe.

 did you clean the non-gles recipe first?



What do you mean with 'clean'? remove files in 'work' dir?

Currently, to create the qt4e-demo image I've modified the task-qt4e
to include qt4-embedded_gles pakcage, then both version of packages
has been included in the queue of actions. To use qt4-embedded-gles
instead of qt4-embedded a 'PREFERRED_PROVIDER' command should be used?
like

PREFERRED_PROVIDER_qt4-embedded = qt4-embedded-gles

Joaquim Duran

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