Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Reverse DNS delegations

2024-04-07 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 01:44:45PM -0400, John Levine wrote:
> If you care about rDNS, you need to find a better ISP that meets your
> needs.  Then tell the old one why you left.

That seems to be a problem in Italy these days - few ISPs offer IPv6
at all, so finding one that does IPv6 *and* rDNS seems hard.

(In Germany, there's competition on the ISP market, but I'm not sure
there are many that actually delegegate out /48s - and I'm not sure
how many of those that do provide reverse DNS actually permit customers
to put in records of their choice, and not just auto-generated PTRs)

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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Reverse DNS delegations

2024-04-07 Thread John Levine
It appears that Alessandro Vesely  said:
>On Sat 06/Apr/2024 19:54:27 +0200 Randy Bush wrote:
> Why isn't it possible to gain a delegation by proving number 
> assignment?
 Because your ISP can't be bothered.
>>> Is such unbotherability legitimate?

>RIPE could at least reproach those LIRs that have an inet6num but no rDNS 
>delegation to it.

RIPE does what its members want it to do.  If they don't care about rDNS, so be 
it.

If you care about rDNS, you need to find a better ISP that meets your needs.  
Then
tell the old one why you left.

R's,
John

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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Reverse DNS delegations

2024-04-07 Thread Semisol via anti-abuse-wg

On 7.04.2024 15:42, Alessandro Vesely wrote:


BTW, how should one search DB objects like 2.0.a.2.ip6.arpa?  I can 
search it in the DNS but not in https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/query



-T domain -d 

I believe you can also use the more/less specific flags with that query 
but I didn't try.


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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Reverse DNS delegations

2024-04-07 Thread Alessandro Vesely

On Sat 06/Apr/2024 19:54:27 +0200 Randy Bush wrote:
Why isn't it possible to gain a delegation by proving number 
assignment?

Because your ISP can't be bothered.

Is such unbotherability legitimate?


these years, it is one of the things when considering a provider from 
which one gets address space.


part of the problem is that this used not to be the case.  "rdns is not 
really useful" was the common thought.  so many isps did not pay it much 
attention.  now, more and more services are using rdns mapping to defend 
against crapola.  so it has become useful, and quite needed in some 
cases.


but it is notalways easy to justify to management the costs of cleaning 
it up, often involving your provider, sometimes your provider's 
provider, and on up the chain.



RIPE could at least reproach those LIRs that have an inet6num but no rDNS 
delegation to it.


BTW, how should one search DB objects like 2.0.a.2.ip6.arpa?  I can search it 
in the DNS but not in https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/query



Best
Ale
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