[anti-abuse-wg] What is YAHOONET?

2021-03-17 Thread Alessandro Vesely

Hi all,

I'm aware of the various pages that Wikipedia dedicate to Yahoo! and related 
services.  I'm unsure how to treat YAHOONET as an ISP.

The abuse contact they registered at RIPE in 2007 is ab...@yahoo-inc.com.  It 
bounces.  I wrote to network-ab...@cc.yahoo-inc.com asking what address should 
I use for complaints.  I got an automated reply telling me to go to:
https://io.help.yahoo.com/contact/index?page=contact&locale=en_US&y=PROD_MAIL_ML

That link ultimately redirects to the same host/path with the query string replaced by 
"page=oops".

I had tried to contact someone at Yahoo! before.  I don't think it's worth 
trying again.  So I think I'm going to put YAHOONET in the heavily firewalled 
list of ISPs with no abuse team.  I hesitated because I used to consider Yahoo! 
something big, with possibly many worthy customers.  Is it still so?  I mean, 
would any savvy netizen face the Internet through such an ISP?


Best
Ale
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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] What is YAHOONET?

2021-03-17 Thread Alessandro Vesely

As someone pointed out off-list, there's plenty of @yahoo.com email addresses.

However, IP addresses for mail seem to use ARIN networks, such as:
A-YAHOO-US2 66.163.160.0-66.163.191.255,
A-YAHOO-US3 209.191.64.0-209.191.127.255,
...
A-YAHOO-US8 67.195.0.0-67.195.255.255,
A-YAHOO-US9 98.136.0.0-98.139.255.255,
...

RIPE's YAHOONET, 77.238.177.0-77.238.177.255, seems to be an abandoned object.

Best
Ale

 Original Message 
Subject: [anti-abuse-wg] What is YAHOONET?
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 09:46:45 +0100
From: Alessandro Vesely 
To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net

Hi all,

I'm aware of the various pages that Wikipedia dedicate to Yahoo! and related 
services.  I'm unsure how to treat YAHOONET as an ISP.


The abuse contact they registered at RIPE in 2007 is ab...@yahoo-inc.com.  It 
bounces.  I wrote to network-ab...@cc.yahoo-inc.com asking what address should 
I use for complaints.  I got an automated reply telling me to go to:

https://io.help.yahoo.com/contact/index?page=contact&locale=en_US&y=PROD_MAIL_ML

That link ultimately redirects to the same host/path with the query string 
replaced by "page=oops".


I had tried to contact someone at Yahoo! before.  I don't think it's worth 
trying again.  So I think I'm going to put YAHOONET in the heavily firewalled 
list of ISPs with no abuse team.  I hesitated because I used to consider Yahoo! 
something big, with possibly many worthy customers.  Is it still so?  I mean, 
would any savvy netizen face the Internet through such an ISP?



Best
Ale
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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] What is YAHOONET?

2021-03-17 Thread Richard Clayton
In message <8dfb9cd5-8088-02af-2245-0eaf3f96f...@tana.it>, Alessandro
Vesely  writes

>However, IP addresses for mail seem to use ARIN networks, such as:
>A-YAHOO-US2 66.163.160.0-66.163.191.255,
>A-YAHOO-US3 209.191.64.0-209.191.127.255,
>...
>A-YAHOO-US8 67.195.0.0-67.195.255.255,
>A-YAHOO-US9 98.136.0.0-98.139.255.255,
>...

it depends where in the world you are

tryhttps://postmaster.verizonmedia.com/

which has links to (a) a complete list of relevant IPs
and(b) a working link to an abuse reporting form.

>RIPE's YAHOONET, 77.238.177.0-77.238.177.255, seems to be an abandoned object.

it's maintained by YAHOO-MNT so hardly "abandoned"

Also you will note that the email address in  NA4112-RIPE is now updated

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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] What is YAHOONET?

2021-03-18 Thread Alessandro Vesely

Thanks for the update
Ale


On Wed 17/Mar/2021 21:16:06 +0100 Richard Clayton wrote:

In message <8dfb9cd5-8088-02af-2245-0eaf3f96f...@tana.it>, Alessandro
Vesely  writes


However, IP addresses for mail seem to use ARIN networks, such as:
A-YAHOO-US2 66.163.160.0-66.163.191.255,
A-YAHOO-US3 209.191.64.0-209.191.127.255,
...
A-YAHOO-US8 67.195.0.0-67.195.255.255,
A-YAHOO-US9 98.136.0.0-98.139.255.255,
...


it depends where in the world you are

tryhttps://postmaster.verizonmedia.com/

which has links to (a) a complete list of relevant IPs
and(b) a working link to an abuse reporting form.


RIPE's YAHOONET, 77.238.177.0-77.238.177.255, seems to be an abandoned object.


it's maintained by YAHOO-MNT so hardly "abandoned"

Also you will note that the email address in  NA4112-RIPE is now updated