Re: 10 years on: Capitalism brings ruin to Russia - no, 40 [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]
HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK --- At 11:55 2001-12-08 -0500, Barry Stoller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Rolf M.: > > > Your subject line should have been "40 years on...", Barry! > > > The former socialism in the Soviet Union was not overthrown in 1991, > >of course, but in the late 50s / early 60s, and social-imperialism, one > >kind of that impossible capitalism too, established there... > >According to you, 'real' Soviet socialism ended sometime around 1953 No, some 3-10 years later than that. >According to the Trots, 'real' Soviet socialism ended sometime around >1924. > >And according to the Menshviks, there wasn't even any 'real' Soviet >socialism. > >All you three sectarian groups do is play the utopian nihilism game with >minor variations. > >It's boring. To those who don't care about such things as facts - or, to be more precise, to those who feel uncomfy about the facts because of their long-time support of an arch-reactionary power - yes, of course it's "boring". Rolf M. ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a84x2u.a9WB2D Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: 10 years on: Capitalism brings ruin to Russia - no, 40 [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]
HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK --- > > AFP. 5 December 2001. Russia's dashed hopes. > > MOSCOW -- At a glance Russia has made remarkable progress in the 10 years since the Soviet Union officially ceased to exist... Rolf M.: > Your subject line should have been "40 years on...", Barry! > The former socialism in the Soviet Union was not overthrown in 1991, of course, but in the late 50s / early 60s, and social-imperialism, one kind of that impossible capitalism too, established there... According to you, 'real' Soviet socialism ended sometime around 1953. According to the Trots, 'real' Soviet socialism ended sometime around 1924. And according to the Menshviks, there wasn't even any 'real' Soviet socialism. All you three sectarian groups do is play the utopian nihilism game with minor variations. It's boring. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Barry Stoller http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ProletarianNews ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a84x2u.a9WB2D Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
