Re: The Texas Mercury: Who Does Propaganda Best? [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]
HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK --- We the Anglo-Saxons do propaganda best because we invented it. it's called "Political Warfare". Invented in Britain it got taken to America in WWI. Albert Pernay's book, (founder of modern American advertising industry) "Propaganda" is a classic and apparantly was Goebbel's bible, which he took round with him. --- Barry Stoller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK > --- > > > > Propaganda: Nobody Does It Better Than America. > > > This is why communist propaganda actually hastened > the collapse of > communism: the creatures running the Commie Empire > thought they should > appeal to morality by calling for people to engage > in sacrifice for the > greater good. > > An especially egregious example of ultra-left > utopian nihilism there, > one of the most stunning examples I've ever seen. > > Let's deconstruct some of the shit above: 'This is > why ultra-left > liberalism actually hastened the collapse of > socialism: by positing that > socialism was the same as capitalism, only not as > glamorous.' > > Or: 'Socialism failed because the ideology failed.' > As if the idea > created the world, not the other way around. What > breath-taking > promiscuity and narcissism, this utopian nihilism > which sees itself in > everything it attempts to explain. > > 'Who does propaganda best?' The author flatters him > or herself to think > the above was even the most elementary propaganda. > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > Barry Stoller > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ProletarianNews > > --- > ANTI-NATO INFORMATION LIST > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com --- ANTI-NATO INFORMATION LIST ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a84x2u.a9WB2D Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: The Texas Mercury: Who Does Propaganda Best? [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]
HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK --- > Propaganda: Nobody Does It Better Than America. > This is why communist propaganda actually hastened the collapse of communism: the creatures running the Commie Empire thought they should appeal to morality by calling for people to engage in sacrifice for the greater good. An especially egregious example of ultra-left utopian nihilism there, one of the most stunning examples I've ever seen. Let's deconstruct some of the shit above: 'This is why ultra-left liberalism actually hastened the collapse of socialism: by positing that socialism was the same as capitalism, only not as glamorous.' Or: 'Socialism failed because the ideology failed.' As if the idea created the world, not the other way around. What breath-taking promiscuity and narcissism, this utopian nihilism which sees itself in everything it attempts to explain. 'Who does propaganda best?' The author flatters him or herself to think the above was even the most elementary propaganda. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Barry Stoller http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ProletarianNews --- ANTI-NATO INFORMATION LIST ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a84x2u.a9WB2D Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
The Texas Mercury: Who Does Propaganda Best? [WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK]
HTTP://WWW.STOPNATO.ORG.UK --- > > > http://www.thetexasmercury.com/articles/weber/PW20020120.html > > > Propaganda: Nobody > Does It > Better Than America. > > Paul Weber > Over the years, I have had the privilege of > meeting and having discussions with people > who came to America from countries known > for their adherence to totalitarianism: China, > Russia, and former east European satellites > of the Soviet Union. When we discussed > how the state managed to control public > opinion under totalitarianism, these people > would usually produce a weary, > knowledgeable, cynical smile and point out > that propaganda in those countries was really > done quite incompetently. If you really want > to know propaganda, they said, you need to > study American propaganda technique. > According to them, it is, undeniably, the best > in the world. > > "How can that be?" I asked, honestly > puzzled. > > Propaganda in those countries was too > obvious, they told me. As soon as you read > the first sentence you knew it was a bunch of > propaganda, so you didn?t even bother to > read it. If you heard a speech, you knew in > the first few words that it was propaganda, > and you tuned it out. > > "But," I then queried, "How do you know > when it?s just propaganda?" > > The expatriates explained that bad > propaganda uses obvious terminology that > anyone can see through. Anyone hearing the > phrase "capitalist running dogs", knows he?s > listening to incompetent propaganda and > tunes it out. Lousy propaganda, these > knowledgeable but jaded individuals would > tell me, appeals to an abstract theory, to a > rational thesis that can be disproved. Even > though communists had total control of the > press, the people just tuned it out (except for > those who were the most mentally > defective). Most people, they assured me, > just went about their lives as best they could, > paid lip service to the state, and just tried to > keep out of the way of the secret police. But > hardly anyone really believed the stuff. The > result, after many decades of suffering, was > the eventual collapse of the old order once > The Great Leader expired, whether his name > was Brezhnev, Mao, or Tito. > > American propaganda, however, is much > cleverer. American propaganda, they > patiently explained, relies entirely on > emotional appeals. It doesn?t depend on a > rational theory that can be disproved: it > appeals to things no one can object to. > > American propaganda had its birth, so far > as I can tell, in the advertising industry. The > pioneers of advertising-a truly loathsome > bunch-learned early on that people would > respond to purely emotional appeals. > Abstract theory and logical argument do > nothing to spur sales. However, appeals to > sexiness, to pride of ownership, to fear of > falling behind the neighbors are the stock in > trade of advertising executives. A man > walking down the street with beautiful > women hanging on his arms is not a logical > argument, but it sure sells after-shave. A > woman in a business suit with a briefcase, > strolling along with swaying hips, assuring > us she can "bring home the bacon, fry it up > in a pan, but never let you forget you?re a > man" really sells the perfume. > > Let?s take a moment and analyze the > particular emotions that this execrable
