Re: [AOLSERVER] SSL handshake error

2003-03-11 Thread Scott Goodwin
I need to know the browser type, version and strength (e.g. MSIE 5.5
128-bit, Netscape 4.7 40-bit...).
Oscar, when you say you're seeing the exact same problem, do you mean
you're seeing both the error message and the browser is failing on the
first connect?
/s.

On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 08:42  AM, Oscar Bonilla wrote:

I'm seeing the exact same problem, however I have ServerSessionCache
set to true. I'm using
nsopenssl 2.1. What could the problem be?
This is the nsopenssl part of my aolserver config file:

-
ns_section ns/server/${servername}/module/nsopenssl
ns_param ServerPort  ${httpsport}
ns_param ServerHostname  ${hostname}
ns_param ServerAddress   ${address}
ns_param ServerCertFile  ${sslcertificate}
ns_param ServerKeyFile   ${sslkey}
ns_param ServerProtocols All
ns_param ServerCipherSuite
ALL:!ADH:!EXP56:RC4+RSA:+HIGH:+MEDIUM:+LOW:+SSLv2:+EXP:+eNULL
ns_param ServerSessionCache  true
ns_param ServerSessionCacheID1
ns_param ServerSessionCacheSize  512
ns_param ServerSessionCacheTimeout   300
ns_param ServerPeerVerifyfalse
ns_param ServerPeerVerifyDepth   3
ns_param ServerCADir ${sslcadir}
ns_param ServerCAFile${sslcafile}
ns_param ServerTrace false
ns_param SockServerCertFile  ${sslcertificate}
ns_param SockServerKeyFile   ${sslkey}
ns_param SockServerProtocols All
ns_param SockServerCipherSuite
ALL:!ADH:!EXP56:RC4+RSA:+HIGH:+MEDIUM:+LOW:+SSLv2:+EXP:+eNULL
ns_param SockServerSessionCache  true
ns_param SockServerSessionCacheID2
ns_param SockServerSessionCacheSize  512
ns_param SockServerSessionCacheTimeout   300
ns_param SockServerPeerVerifytrue
ns_param SockServerPeerVerifyDepth   3
ns_param SockServerCADir ${sslinternalcadir}
ns_param SockServerCAFile${sslinternalcafile}
ns_param SockServerTrace false
ns_param SockClientCertFile  ${sslclientcertificate}
ns_param SockClientKeyFile   ${sslclientkey}
ns_param SockClientProtocols All
ns_param SockClientCipherSuite
ALL:!ADH:!EXP56:RC4+RSA:+HIGH:+MEDIUM:+LOW:+SSLv2:+EXP:+eNULL
ns_param SockClientSessionCache  true
ns_param SockClientSessionCacheID3
ns_param SockClientSessionCacheSize  512
ns_param SockClientSessionCacheTimeout   300
ns_param SockClientPeerVerifytrue
ns_param SockClientPeerVerifyDepth   3
ns_param SockClientCADir ${sslservercadir}
ns_param SockClientCAFile${sslservercafile}
ns_param SockClientTrace false
ns_param RandomFile  /dev/urandom
ns_param SeedBytes   1024

Thanks,

-Oscar

On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:42:36PM -0600, Scott Goodwin wrote:
Turn it on, always, always, always have session caching on, or SSL to
certain MSIE browser versions will fail in the way you're seeing. I've
just updated the nsopenssl config examples at my site to reflect this.
nsopenssl 3.0 will have session caching turned on by default, so that
if you want it turned off you'll have to explicitly do so.
/s.



On Monday, March 10, 2003, at 11:32  PM, William Scott Jordan wrote:

ServerSessionCache is set to false.

Scott

At 11:12 PM 3/10/2003 -0600, you wrote:
Do you have session caching turned on?

/s.

On Monday, March 10, 2003, at 11:00  PM, William Scott Jordan wrote:

I'm running AOLServer 3.4 with OpenSSL 0.9.6 and nsopenssl 2.2b4 on
Redhat
7.0 and I'm getting this error quite a bit:
Error: nsopenssl: EOF during SSL handshake

I have no idea what's causing it and I can't recreate it.  When it
happens,
it gives the end user a Server Error message.  Reloading the same
page
never causes the problem a second time.  I really don't even know
whether
it's a problem with AOLServer, a configuration issue, or a problem
with
OpenSSL.
Has anybody seen this before or have any idea of how to correct it?
Any
advice would be appreciated.
Scott



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Re: [AOLSERVER] SSL handshake error

2003-03-11 Thread Dossy
On 2003.03.10, William Scott Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Error: nsopenssl: EOF during SSL handshake

I never used to see this error (and I have session caching turned off)
until the recent OpenSSL exploits came about.

Ever since then, every couple of hours I'll see this in my logs ... the
OpenSSL exploits seem to have made it into a couple of rootkits, it
seems.

What strikes me as funny is the fact that Scott says to always turn
session caching on, but before the OpenSSL exploits became popular, I'd
never seen this error before.  Strange.

Now I need to go and look at turning session caching on.  Fooey.

-- Dossy

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Re: [AOLSERVER] SSL handshake error

2003-03-11 Thread William Scott Jordan
So I switched session caching on last night and when I checked the logs
this morning, I see that there were a couple of new EOF during SSL
handshake errors.  Checking the access log, it looks like something funny
was going on;  Non-existent files being accessed and such.  I think Dossy
might be right about this being from the SSL exploits.  Hopefully, turning
on session caching fixed the real problem and now I'm just seeing the
results of some idiots mucking about.
Scott

At 09:57 PM 3/10/2003 -0800, you wrote:
I'll give this a shot.  Thanks for the assistance.

Scott

At 11:42 PM 3/10/2003 -0600, you wrote:
Turn it on, always, always, always have session caching on, or SSL to
certain MSIE browser versions will fail in the way you're seeing. I've
just updated the nsopenssl config examples at my site to reflect this.
nsopenssl 3.0 will have session caching turned on by default, so that
if you want it turned off you'll have to explicitly do so.
/s.



On Monday, March 10, 2003, at 11:32  PM, William Scott Jordan wrote:

ServerSessionCache is set to false.

Scott

At 11:12 PM 3/10/2003 -0600, you wrote:
Do you have session caching turned on?

/s.

On Monday, March 10, 2003, at 11:00  PM, William Scott Jordan wrote:

I'm running AOLServer 3.4 with OpenSSL 0.9.6 and nsopenssl 2.2b4 on
Redhat
7.0 and I'm getting this error quite a bit:
Error: nsopenssl: EOF during SSL handshake

I have no idea what's causing it and I can't recreate it.  When it
happens,
it gives the end user a Server Error message.  Reloading the same
page
never causes the problem a second time.  I really don't even know
whether
it's a problem with AOLServer, a configuration issue, or a problem
with
OpenSSL.
Has anybody seen this before or have any idea of how to correct it?
Any
advice would be appreciated.
Scott



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Re: [AOLSERVER] SSL handshake error

2003-03-11 Thread Scott Goodwin
Note that you will see some EOFs in the log files that are normal and
aren't due to failures. I see them all the time because we're using
client certs -- MSIE makes a connection, realizes the server wants a
client cert, cuts the conn (EOF), asks the user which client cert they
want to use, then makes a fresh connection. There are other events that
can cause an EOF; one of them I think is when a client is using SSLv3
or TLS but doesn't follow the SSL close protocol specified and instead
just closes the socket.
/s.

On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 12:01  PM, William Scott Jordan wrote:

So I switched session caching on last night and when I checked the logs
this morning, I see that there were a couple of new EOF during SSL
handshake errors.  Checking the access log, it looks like something
funny
was going on;  Non-existent files being accessed and such.  I think
Dossy
might be right about this being from the SSL exploits.  Hopefully,
turning
on session caching fixed the real problem and now I'm just seeing the
results of some idiots mucking about.
Scott

At 09:57 PM 3/10/2003 -0800, you wrote:
I'll give this a shot.  Thanks for the assistance.

Scott

At 11:42 PM 3/10/2003 -0600, you wrote:
Turn it on, always, always, always have session caching on, or SSL to
certain MSIE browser versions will fail in the way you're seeing.
I've
just updated the nsopenssl config examples at my site to reflect
this.
nsopenssl 3.0 will have session caching turned on by default, so that
if you want it turned off you'll have to explicitly do so.
/s.



On Monday, March 10, 2003, at 11:32  PM, William Scott Jordan wrote:

ServerSessionCache is set to false.

Scott

At 11:12 PM 3/10/2003 -0600, you wrote:
Do you have session caching turned on?

/s.

On Monday, March 10, 2003, at 11:00  PM, William Scott Jordan
wrote:
I'm running AOLServer 3.4 with OpenSSL 0.9.6 and nsopenssl 2.2b4
on
Redhat
7.0 and I'm getting this error quite a bit:
Error: nsopenssl: EOF during SSL handshake

I have no idea what's causing it and I can't recreate it.  When it
happens,
it gives the end user a Server Error message.  Reloading the
same
page
never causes the problem a second time.  I really don't even know
whether
it's a problem with AOLServer, a configuration issue, or a problem
with
OpenSSL.
Has anybody seen this before or have any idea of how to correct
it?
Any
advice would be appreciated.
Scott



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Re: [AOLSERVER] SSL handshake error

2003-03-11 Thread Oscar Bonilla
Ok, so maybe I was not seeing the *exact* same problem ;) I was just
seeing the error messages in the log. I had seen the server error
message on the browsers some time ago, but I expected the error
messages to also go away. I guess it must be the OpenSSL exploit
then... any way to check and make sure?

Regards,

-Oscar

On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 09:08:58AM -0600, Scott Goodwin wrote:
 I need to know the browser type, version and strength (e.g. MSIE 5.5
 128-bit, Netscape 4.7 40-bit...).

 Oscar, when you say you're seeing the exact same problem, do you mean
 you're seeing both the error message and the browser is failing on the
 first connect?

 /s.


 On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 08:42  AM, Oscar Bonilla wrote:

  I'm seeing the exact same problem, however I have ServerSessionCache
  set to true. I'm using
  nsopenssl 2.1. What could the problem be?
 
 
  This is the nsopenssl part of my aolserver config file:
 
  -
  ns_section ns/server/${servername}/module/nsopenssl
  ns_param ServerPort  ${httpsport}
  ns_param ServerHostname  ${hostname}
  ns_param ServerAddress   ${address}
  ns_param ServerCertFile  ${sslcertificate}
  ns_param ServerKeyFile   ${sslkey}
  ns_param ServerProtocols All
  ns_param ServerCipherSuite
  ALL:!ADH:!EXP56:RC4+RSA:+HIGH:+MEDIUM:+LOW:+SSLv2:+EXP:+eNULL
  ns_param ServerSessionCache  true
  ns_param ServerSessionCacheID1
  ns_param ServerSessionCacheSize  512
  ns_param ServerSessionCacheTimeout   300
  ns_param ServerPeerVerifyfalse
  ns_param ServerPeerVerifyDepth   3
  ns_param ServerCADir ${sslcadir}
  ns_param ServerCAFile${sslcafile}
  ns_param ServerTrace false
 
  ns_param SockServerCertFile  ${sslcertificate}
  ns_param SockServerKeyFile   ${sslkey}
  ns_param SockServerProtocols All
  ns_param SockServerCipherSuite
  ALL:!ADH:!EXP56:RC4+RSA:+HIGH:+MEDIUM:+LOW:+SSLv2:+EXP:+eNULL
  ns_param SockServerSessionCache  true
  ns_param SockServerSessionCacheID2
  ns_param SockServerSessionCacheSize  512
  ns_param SockServerSessionCacheTimeout   300
  ns_param SockServerPeerVerifytrue
  ns_param SockServerPeerVerifyDepth   3
  ns_param SockServerCADir ${sslinternalcadir}
  ns_param SockServerCAFile${sslinternalcafile}
  ns_param SockServerTrace false
 
  ns_param SockClientCertFile  ${sslclientcertificate}
  ns_param SockClientKeyFile   ${sslclientkey}
  ns_param SockClientProtocols All
  ns_param SockClientCipherSuite
  ALL:!ADH:!EXP56:RC4+RSA:+HIGH:+MEDIUM:+LOW:+SSLv2:+EXP:+eNULL
  ns_param SockClientSessionCache  true
  ns_param SockClientSessionCacheID3
  ns_param SockClientSessionCacheSize  512
  ns_param SockClientSessionCacheTimeout   300
  ns_param SockClientPeerVerifytrue
  ns_param SockClientPeerVerifyDepth   3
  ns_param SockClientCADir ${sslservercadir}
  ns_param SockClientCAFile${sslservercafile}
  ns_param SockClientTrace false
 
  ns_param RandomFile  /dev/urandom
  ns_param SeedBytes   1024
  
 
  Thanks,
 
  -Oscar
 
  On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:42:36PM -0600, Scott Goodwin wrote:
  Turn it on, always, always, always have session caching on, or SSL to
  certain MSIE browser versions will fail in the way you're seeing. I've
  just updated the nsopenssl config examples at my site to reflect this.
 
  nsopenssl 3.0 will have session caching turned on by default, so that
  if you want it turned off you'll have to explicitly do so.
 
 
  /s.
 
 
 
  On Monday, March 10, 2003, at 11:32  PM, William Scott Jordan wrote:
 
  ServerSessionCache is set to false.
 
  Scott
 
  At 11:12 PM 3/10/2003 -0600, you wrote:
  Do you have session caching turned on?
 
  /s.
 
  On Monday, March 10, 2003, at 11:00  PM, William Scott Jordan wrote:
 
  I'm running AOLServer 3.4 with OpenSSL 0.9.6 and nsopenssl 2.2b4 on
  Redhat
  7.0 and I'm getting this error quite a bit:
 
 
  Error: nsopenssl: EOF during SSL handshake
 
 
  I have no idea what's causing it and I can't recreate it.  When it
  happens,
  it gives the end user a Server Error message.  Reloading the same
  page
  never causes the problem a second time.  I really don't even know
  whether
  it's a problem with AOLServer, a configuration issue, or a problem
  with
  OpenSSL.
 
  Has anybody seen this before or have any idea of how to correct it?
  Any
  advice would be appreciated.
 
  Scott
 
 
 
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[AOLSERVER] SSL handshake error

2003-03-10 Thread William Scott Jordan
I'm running AOLServer 3.4 with OpenSSL 0.9.6 and nsopenssl 2.2b4 on Redhat
7.0 and I'm getting this error quite a bit:
Error: nsopenssl: EOF during SSL handshake

I have no idea what's causing it and I can't recreate it.  When it happens,
it gives the end user a Server Error message.  Reloading the same page
never causes the problem a second time.  I really don't even know whether
it's a problem with AOLServer, a configuration issue, or a problem with
OpenSSL.
Has anybody seen this before or have any idea of how to correct it?  Any
advice would be appreciated.
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Re: [AOLSERVER] SSL handshake error

2003-03-10 Thread Scott Goodwin
Do you have session caching turned on?

/s.

On Monday, March 10, 2003, at 11:00  PM, William Scott Jordan wrote:

I'm running AOLServer 3.4 with OpenSSL 0.9.6 and nsopenssl 2.2b4 on
Redhat
7.0 and I'm getting this error quite a bit:
Error: nsopenssl: EOF during SSL handshake

I have no idea what's causing it and I can't recreate it.  When it
happens,
it gives the end user a Server Error message.  Reloading the same
page
never causes the problem a second time.  I really don't even know
whether
it's a problem with AOLServer, a configuration issue, or a problem with
OpenSSL.
Has anybody seen this before or have any idea of how to correct it?
Any
advice would be appreciated.
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Re: [AOLSERVER] SSL handshake error

2003-03-10 Thread William Scott Jordan
ServerSessionCache is set to false.

Scott

At 11:12 PM 3/10/2003 -0600, you wrote:
Do you have session caching turned on?

/s.

On Monday, March 10, 2003, at 11:00  PM, William Scott Jordan wrote:

I'm running AOLServer 3.4 with OpenSSL 0.9.6 and nsopenssl 2.2b4 on
Redhat
7.0 and I'm getting this error quite a bit:
Error: nsopenssl: EOF during SSL handshake

I have no idea what's causing it and I can't recreate it.  When it
happens,
it gives the end user a Server Error message.  Reloading the same
page
never causes the problem a second time.  I really don't even know
whether
it's a problem with AOLServer, a configuration issue, or a problem with
OpenSSL.
Has anybody seen this before or have any idea of how to correct it?
Any
advice would be appreciated.
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