Re: [Apertium-stuff] apertium-fra-cat new version

2019-03-15 Thread Hèctor Alòs i Font
El dv., 15 març 2019, 16.23, Xavi Ivars  va escriure:

>
>
> Missatge de Hèctor Alòs i Font  del dia dv., 15 de
> març 2019 a les 10:13:
>
>> Missatge de Kevin Brubeck Unhammer  del dia dv., 15
>> de març 2019 a les 12:08:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Xavi has a fix on the way for the problem, btw:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/apertium/apertium-separable/issues/1#issuecomment-471121936
>>> but apertium-separable needs a new release I suppose
>>>
>>>
>> I discussed with @Xavi Ivars   after this fix
>> whether it'd be better to include it or drop the call to apertium
>> separable, since it is not sure than the fix really solves all the
>> problems. He recommended the second.
>>
>
> Sorry for the misunderstanding. I actually think this fix will the
> problem, so I wasn't suggesting to remove apertium-separable, but it's just
> that I'm not 100% sure. But if you've already removed apertium-separable,
> it's OK. Let's add it back to fra-cat after the release, to monitor that
> really the problem has ben solved.
>

Undoing the change is as simple as recovering the previous version of
modes.xml. So, no problem to put it or not. As you wish. I may add it again
in one minute.

Hèctor

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Re: [Apertium-stuff] apertium-fra-cat new version

2019-03-15 Thread Xavi Ivars
Missatge de Hèctor Alòs i Font  del dia dv., 15 de
març 2019 a les 10:13:

> Missatge de Kevin Brubeck Unhammer  del dia dv., 15 de
> març 2019 a les 12:08:
>
>>
>>
>> Xavi has a fix on the way for the problem, btw:
>>
>> https://github.com/apertium/apertium-separable/issues/1#issuecomment-471121936
>> but apertium-separable needs a new release I suppose
>>
>>
> I discussed with @Xavi Ivars   after this fix
> whether it'd be better to include it or drop the call to apertium
> separable, since it is not sure than the fix really solves all the
> problems. He recommended the second.
>

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I actually think this fix will the problem,
so I wasn't suggesting to remove apertium-separable, but it's just that I'm
not 100% sure. But if you've already removed apertium-separable, it's OK.
Let's add it back to fra-cat after the release, to monitor that really the
problem has ben solved.

-- 
< Xavi Ivars >
< http://xavi.ivars.me >
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Re: [Apertium-stuff] apertium-fra-cat new version

2019-03-15 Thread Hèctor Alòs i Font
Missatge de Kevin Brubeck Unhammer  del dia dv., 15 de
març 2019 a les 12:08:

> Hèctor Alòs i Font 
> čálii:
>
> > As Xavi Ivars said, the bug in apertium-separator is making the
> > apertium-fra-cat language pair pretty unusable, so I have removed it from
> > the pipeline in modes.xml. I've also passed a testvoc, so a new version
> is
> > ready to be released. @Tino Didriksen  g2k4z...@public.gmane.org> could you
> > prepare it, please?
> >
> > In fact, apertium-separator was experimentaly used only for a few cases
> in
> > both sides of this pair. It may be very useful for both sides of the
> pair,
> > especially for dealing with French double negative clauses. So, when
> > dropping its use, practically the quality of the translations does not
> > decrease with respect to the previous version. On the contrary, the new
> > version introduces a few more words, disambiguation rules, lexical
> > selection rules and transfer rules.
>
> 
>
> Xavi has a fix on the way for the problem, btw:
>
> https://github.com/apertium/apertium-separable/issues/1#issuecomment-471121936
> but apertium-separable needs a new release I suppose
>
>
I discussed with @Xavi Ivars   after this fix whether
it'd be better to include it or drop the call to apertium separable, since
it is not sure than the fix really solves all the problems. He recommended
the second.

Hèctor
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Re: [Apertium-stuff] apertium-fra-cat new version

2019-03-15 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Hèctor Alòs i Font 
čálii:

> As Xavi Ivars said, the bug in apertium-separator is making the
> apertium-fra-cat language pair pretty unusable, so I have removed it from
> the pipeline in modes.xml. I've also passed a testvoc, so a new version is
> ready to be released. @Tino Didriksen 
>  could you
> prepare it, please?
>
> In fact, apertium-separator was experimentaly used only for a few cases in
> both sides of this pair. It may be very useful for both sides of the pair,
> especially for dealing with French double negative clauses. So, when
> dropping its use, practically the quality of the translations does not
> decrease with respect to the previous version. On the contrary, the new
> version introduces a few more words, disambiguation rules, lexical
> selection rules and transfer rules.



Xavi has a fix on the way for the problem, btw:
https://github.com/apertium/apertium-separable/issues/1#issuecomment-471121936
but apertium-separable needs a new release I suppose



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Re: [Apertium-stuff] apertium-fra-cat new version

2019-03-15 Thread Tino Didriksen
Yup, I'll look this and Unhammer's releases this weekend, in addition to
trying to implement https://github.com/apertium/apertium-packaging/issues/12
and https://github.com/apertium/apertium-packaging/issues/16

-- Tino Didriksen


On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 at 08:13, Hèctor Alòs i Font 
wrote:

> As Xavi Ivars said, the bug in apertium-separator is making the
> apertium-fra-cat language pair pretty unusable, so I have removed it from
> the pipeline in modes.xml. I've also passed a testvoc, so a new version is
> ready to be released. @Tino Didriksen  could you
> prepare it, please?
>
> In fact, apertium-separator was experimentaly used only for a few cases in
> both sides of this pair. It may be very useful for both sides of the pair,
> especially for dealing with French double negative clauses. So, when
> dropping its use, practically the quality of the translations does not
> decrease with respect to the previous version. On the contrary, the new
> version introduces a few more words, disambiguation rules, lexical
> selection rules and transfer rules.
>
> Hèctor
>
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[Apertium-stuff] apertium-fra-cat new version

2019-03-15 Thread Hèctor Alòs i Font
As Xavi Ivars said, the bug in apertium-separator is making the
apertium-fra-cat language pair pretty unusable, so I have removed it from
the pipeline in modes.xml. I've also passed a testvoc, so a new version is
ready to be released. @Tino Didriksen  could you
prepare it, please?

In fact, apertium-separator was experimentaly used only for a few cases in
both sides of this pair. It may be very useful for both sides of the pair,
especially for dealing with French double negative clauses. So, when
dropping its use, practically the quality of the translations does not
decrease with respect to the previous version. On the contrary, the new
version introduces a few more words, disambiguation rules, lexical
selection rules and transfer rules.

Hèctor
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