RE: Apple-Crop: Attaching trees to trellis

[Nick Lucking]

Bill,

That's good to know.

On that note, when I plant these new trees should they be planted  
directly inline with the trellis system?  Or be 2-3, or more inches  
off the wire initially?  Thanks for the help, my horticulture degree  
did not quite cover this!


Nick Lucking
Field Manager
Cannon Valley Orchard
Cannon Falls, MN


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RE: Apple-Crop: Attaching trees to trellis

[Fleming, William]

After years of trial and error I've found the metal clips are the only device 
that definitely will stay in place. I have only used the large size.
The tree will grow into the clip just as often as it grows into the trellis 
wire. I only used the clips at the top ten foot wire so wasn't concerned about 
girdling. Plastic tree tape did well on lower wires till the tree reached the 
top wire. Even with the trellis wire and clip completely grown into the tree it 
didn't seem to affect vigor even though it would be welcome high in the tree.

Only problem I've encountered is when it comes to tree removal if the tree has 
grown into the wire, it's not just a simple matter of unclipping the clip. 
Workers often had to carry wire cutters, loppers and a saw to release the tree. 
Problem is compounded if you want to reuse the trellis wire or leave it in 
place for the new trees.
Mistakes happen and the trellis wire can accidently get cut or the 
galvanization scraped off.

One way to get away from the problems is to use the metal clip to attach a 
stake, conduit, etc to the wire then tie the tree to the support.
Of course that involves the expense of a stake that can really add up with 
trees two feet apart.

Bill Fleming
Montana State University
Western Ag Research Center
580 Quast Ln
Corvallis, MT 59828
(406)961-3025

-Original Message-
From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-c...@virtualorchard.net] On 
Behalf Of Nick Lucking
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 5:40 PM
To: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net
Subject: Apple-Crop: Attaching trees to trellis

Hello everyone,

I see that the U clip is a popular item to attach B.9, M.9, etc.  
trees to a trellis.  Are you guys going with the larger version to  
allow for growth or is the smaller version better for this application?

Does anyone have any problems with the metal rubbing bark of the tree?

Thanks for the input,

Nick Lucking
Field Manager
Cannon Valley Orchard
Cannon Falls, MN


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Apple-Crop: Worldwide list of pollinators available

[Dave Green]

Our list of beekeepers who provide pollination service has undergone a major 
revision during the last couple months. It can be found at 
http://pollinator.com/Pollination_Beekeepers/polbkprs.htm


This list is primarily a service to growers who need  bees for crop 
pollination. There is also a section for growers to request bees, though it 
has no listings at present.


Please notify us of any corrections, as well as comments, suggestions for 
improvements, etc. We have not been able to verify some of the older 
listings.


A new feature at The Pollination Home Page is a blog on issues (primarily) 
pertaining to pollination that offers a chance for reader response.


This page is undergoing a gradual and total revision as a labor of love. 
Upcoming features will include a greatly expanded section on wild 
pollinators, many new photos and videos.


It also is beginning an Opportunities section pertaining to pollination, 
with graduate study openings, workshops, association meetings and job 
offers.


Please help announce the availability of the pollinator list. Links are 
appreciated.


Dave Green, Retired pollination beekeeper
pollina...@sc.rr.com 





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Apple-Crop: Attaching trees to trellis

[Nick Lucking]

Hello everyone,

I see that the U clip is a popular item to attach B.9, M.9, etc.  
trees to a trellis.  Are you guys going with the larger version to  
allow for growth or is the smaller version better for this application?


Does anyone have any problems with the metal rubbing bark of the tree?

Thanks for the input,

Nick Lucking
Field Manager
Cannon Valley Orchard
Cannon Falls, MN


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RE: Apple-Crop: Trimming Roots on Benchgrafts

[Fleming, William]

I can only surmise it's because M-111 tends to sucker badly especially if some 
of the roots are jaded (pointed upwards). No big deal if planted by hand to 
correct the root position but if using a three point tree planter at high speed 
it would be preferable to trim the roots to avoid jading.

Bill Fleming
Montana State University
Western Ag Research Center
580 Quast Ln
Corvallis, MT 59828
(406)961-3025
-Original Message-
From: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-c...@virtualorchard.net] On 
Behalf Of Kevin Hauser
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 7:40 AM
To: apple-crop@virtualorchard.net
Subject: Apple-Crop: Trimming Roots on Benchgrafts


At several places I've seen the roots on vigorous benchgraft rootstocks like 
M111 trimmed back to short (1/2") knubs before planting in commercial orchards. 
 Can someone tell me what is the purpose of this, and does it take longer to 
establish growth on these trees?

Thanks 
--
Kevin Hauser
Kuffel Creek Apple Nursery
Riverside, Southern California



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