Re: [apple-crop] Apple variety TOGO

2012-10-28 Thread Jerome Frecon
Are you sure you are not confusing the variety Toko with Togo? The
parentage, origin and description sound like Toko,  

 

Jerome L "Jerry" Frecon

Agricultural Agent I

Rutgers University - NJAES

Cooperative Extension of Gloucester County

1200 North Delsea Drive, Clayton, NJ 08312

856 307-6450 Ext 1 (Office)

856 307-6476 Fax

http://gloucester.njaes.rutgers.edu

www:jerseypeaches.com

http://aesop.rutgers.edu/~frecon/

 

 

 

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From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net
[mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Dr. Chiranjit
Parmar
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 11:18 PM
To: Apple-crop discussion list
Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Apple variety TOGO

 

Dear (I wish I knew your name) Sir,

 

This is what I have found about TOGO at the net.

 

*  Parentage: Golden Delicious x Indo  Origin: Japan , Introduced: 1963
,Developed by: Aomori Apple Research Station. Excels in the South. Taste a
hint of cinnamon in every bite with these unique apples. 

 

I am not sure if TOGO and Cinnamon Spice are same.

 

Dr. Chiranjit Parmar
www.fruitipedia.com

 

From: Once   Upon a Meadow 

Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 10:02 PM

To: Apple-crop discussion list   

Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Apple variety TOGO

 

I've never heard of a variety named Togo, but there are a number of old
varieties that are said to have a spice flavor. 
Cinnamon Spice is the first I think of, but there's also a Golden Spice,
Russet Spice, Darcy Spice etc. You can find all of those varietes (at least
as scion wood cuttings) here
http://maplevalleyorchards.com/Pages/ScionWood.aspx
I go to them when I'm trying to find something obscure, or to Big Horse
Creek Farm http://www.bighorsecreekfarm.com/descriptions1.htm

The Granite Beauty is also said to have a hint of spice to it, but they
describe it as Cardamom and not Cinnamon. I have a few Granite Beauties we
grafted to rootstock last year, so we're still a little ways from getting
any fruit.

I may be remembering incorrectly, but I think there might be a limbertwig
variety that is described with a spice note too.

Do you know anything else about Togo besides that it is supposed to have a
spice flavor?

On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Hugh Thomas  wrote:

Chiranjit, 

Have a look at this:
http://www.starkbros.com/products/fruit-trees/apple-trees/cinnamon-spice-app
le;jsessionid=F08D8AD63301D097ABB21FAA61AA9F54

On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Dr. Chiranjit Parmar
 wrote:

Dear all,

 

I am told that there is a variety of apple named TOGO which has a spicy
cinnmon like flavour.

 

Is it correct?

 

Please tell me.

 

Dr. Chiranjit Parmar
www.fruitipedia.com

 

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Re: [apple-crop] Apple variety TOGO

2012-10-28 Thread Once Upon a Meadow
Parentage of Golden Delicious and Indo from the Aomori research station in
1963.
That sounds like the right apple.
I'm not seeing anything about a cinnamon flavor though.

On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Jerome Frecon wrote:

> 
>
> Are you sure you are not confusing the variety Toko with Togo? The
> parentage, origin and description sound like Toko,  
>
> ** **
>
> *Jerome L "Jerry" Frecon*
>
> *Agricultural Agent I*
>
> *Rutgers University - NJAES*
>
> *Cooperative Extension of Gloucester County*
>
> *1200 North Delsea Drive, Clayton, NJ 08312*
>
> *856 307-6450 Ext 1 (Office)*
>
> *856 307-6476 Fax*
>
> *http://gloucester.njaes.rutgers.edu*
>
> *www:jerseypeaches.com*
>
> *http://aesop.rutgers.edu/~frecon/*
>
> ** **
>
> * *
>
> ** **
>  --
>
> *From:* apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:
> apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] *On Behalf Of *Dr. Chiranjit Parmar
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 27, 2012 11:18 PM
>
> *To:* **Apple-crop discussion list**
> *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] Apple variety TOGO
> 
>
>  ** **
>
> Dear (I wish I knew your name) Sir,
>
>  
>
> This is what I have found about TOGO at the net.
>
>  
>
> ยท  Parentage: Golden Delicious x Indo  Origin: **Japan** , Introduced:
> 1963 ,Developed by: Aomori Apple Research Station. Excels in the
> South. Taste a hint of cinnamon in every bite with these unique apples.
> 
>
>  
>
> I am not sure if TOGO and Cinnamon Spice are same.
>
>  
>
> Dr. Chiranjit Parmar
> www.fruitipedia.com
>
>  
>
> *From:* Once Upon a Meadow  
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 27, 2012 10:02 PM
>
> *To:* Apple-crop discussion list  
>
> *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] Apple variety TOGO
>
>  
>
> I've never heard of a variety named Togo, but there are a number
> of old varieties that are said to have a spice flavor.
> Cinnamon Spice is the first I think of, but there's also a Golden Spice,
> Russet Spice, Darcy Spice etc. You can find all of those varietes (at least
> as scion wood cuttings) here
> http://maplevalleyorchards.com/Pages/ScionWood.aspx
> I go to them when I'm trying to find something obscure, or to Big Horse
> Creek Farm http://www.bighorsecreekfarm.com/descriptions1.htm
>
> The Granite Beauty is also said to have a hint of spice to it, but they
> describe it as Cardamom and not Cinnamon. I have a few Granite Beauties we
> grafted to rootstock last year, so we're still a little ways from getting
> any fruit.
>
> I may be remembering incorrectly, but I think there might be a limbertwig
> variety that is described with a spice note too.
>
> Do you know anything else about Togo besides that it is supposed
> to have a spice flavor?
>
>  On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Hugh Thomas 
> wrote:
>
> Chiranjit, 
>
> Have a look at this:
> http://www.starkbros.com/products/fruit-trees/apple-trees/cinnamon-spice-apple;jsessionid=F08D8AD63301D097ABB21FAA61AA9F54
> 
>
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Dr. Chiranjit Parmar <
> parmarch_...@dataone.in> wrote:
>
>Dear all,
>
>  
>
> I am told that there is a variety of apple named TOGO which has a
> spicy cinnmon like flavour.
>
>  
>
> Is it correct?
>
>  
>
> Please tell me.
>
>  
>
> Dr. Chiranjit Parmar
> www.fruitipedia.com
>
>  
>
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[apple-crop] FW: Senescence

2012-10-28 Thread Lee and Vivien Williamson
Hi everybody,

 

I sent the message below some weeks ago and received no response so I'm
guessing that it got lost in the 'appleonasphere'.  I'm trying again in the
hope that someone may be able to assist.

 

Many thanks.

 

From: Lee and Vivien Williamson [mailto:leeandviv...@bigpond.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2012 11:20 AM
To: 'apple-crop@virtualorchard.net'
Subject: Senescence

 

Hello all,

 

Can anybody tell me when senescence in apple trees actually starts and
finishes?  I understand what senescence is and how it works, at least in
laymen's terms, but I'm interested from the perspective of applying foliar
post harvest fertilisers.  When are the leaves at their most receptive in
terms of absorbing the nutrients and despatching them to the roots for
storage over the Winter months?  Should the PHF be applied immediately after
harvest or is it more advantageous to wait until the leaves have started to
change colour?  And if so, what shade should they be?  At what point do the
leaves stop absorbing the nutrients because the cells are too 'old', in
other words at what point am I wasting time and money?  And I imagine that
it is better to apply the PHF in stages rather than in one large hit, for
example, three applications of nitrogen at two percent rather than one at
six percent?

 

Any advice and insights would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thank you all.

 

Lee Williamson

Eden Gardens Orchard

Western Australia

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