Re: [arch-dev-public] Xorg-server 1.14 hitting testing

2013-03-19 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 16.03.2013 11:09, schrieb Pierre Schmitz:
 Am 16.03.2013 10:05, schrieb Andreas Radke:
 I'd like to move Xorg 1.14 pretty soon, best would be together with
 the kernels. It's up to you whether you want to announce to hold the
 update for catalyst users or remove it from the repos.
 
 I just noticed that Virtualbox does not work with the latest
 xorg-server due to ABI mismatch. Is this known? It's possible that
 rebuildig the driver might fix this.

Why was this moved to extra regardless of the known issues it causes?

-- 
Pierre Schmitz, https://pierre-schmitz.com


Re: [arch-dev-public] BIND10? No, thanks.

2013-03-19 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2013-03-09 13:27:42 +1100] Gaetan Bisson:
 - We ditch dnsutils and bind out of our repos, unless somebody finds
   them fun and wants to maintain them in [extra] or [community].

I would like to post the following announcement. Comments are welcome.


Deprecation of bind and dnsutils

The direction BIND has taken with its recent BIND10 release
[makes it 
impossible](https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2013-March/024588.html)
for us to keep relying on it.
Consequently, official packages using
[dnsutils](https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/dnsutils/)
were migrated to
[ldns](https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/ldns/),
a much nicer library which provides a `drill` command
that replaces `dig`, `nslookup`, and `host`.

We strongly suggest you migrate your own software to
[ldns](https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/ldns/)
too, and replace
[bind](https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/bind/);
with ldns-based alternatives:

- the [unbound](https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/unbound/) 
resolving server (see [wiki](https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unbound));
- the [nsd](https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/nsd/) 
authoritative server (see [wiki](https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nsd)).

The deprecated packages
[dnsutils](https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/dnsutils/)
and
[bind](https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/bind/)
will soon be dropped to the AUR.


-- 
Gaetan


Re: [arch-dev-public] BIND10? No, thanks.

2013-03-19 Thread Dan McGee
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Gaetan Bisson bis...@archlinux.org wrote:
 [2013-03-09 13:27:42 +1100] Gaetan Bisson:
 - We ditch dnsutils and bind out of our repos, unless somebody finds
   them fun and wants to maintain them in [extra] or [community].

 I would like to post the following announcement. Comments are welcome.


 Deprecation of bind and dnsutils

 The direction BIND has taken with its recent BIND10 release
 [makes it 
 impossible](https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2013-March/024588.html)
 for us to keep relying on it.
 Consequently, official packages using
 [dnsutils](https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/dnsutils/)
 were migrated to
 [ldns](https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/ldns/),
 a much nicer library which provides a `drill` command
 that replaces `dig`, `nslookup`, and `host`.

 We strongly suggest you migrate your own software to
 [ldns](https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/ldns/)
 too, and replace
 [bind](https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/bind/);
 with ldns-based alternatives:

 - the [unbound](https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/unbound/) 
 resolving server (see [wiki](https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unbound));
 - the [nsd](https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/nsd/) 
 authoritative server (see [wiki](https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nsd)).

 The deprecated packages
 [dnsutils](https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/dnsutils/)
 and
 [bind](https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/bind/)
 will soon be dropped to the AUR.

This will have add 4 soon-to-be-dead links to packages in a news item,
which doesn't seem like a great idea. It also links exclusively to one
architecture. I would not include a single link to anything under
/packages/, whether these are new or old- you never know what the
landscape will look like in 6 months. Instead, just use the standard
`pkgname` or whatever syntax and people will be smart enough to search
for it.

Outside of that, the rest of the text looks good to me.

-Dan


Re: [arch-dev-public] BIND10? No, thanks.

2013-03-19 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2013-03-19 22:57:31 -0500] Dan McGee:
 This will have add 4 soon-to-be-dead links to packages in a news item,
 which doesn't seem like a great idea. It also links exclusively to one
 architecture. I would not include a single link to anything under
 /packages/, whether these are new or old- you never know what the
 landscape will look like in 6 months. Instead, just use the standard
 `pkgname` or whatever syntax and people will be smart enough to search
 for it.

Right. Here's the updated version.


Deprecation of bind and dnsutils

The direction BIND has taken with its recent BIND10 release
[makes it 
impossible](https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2013-March/024588.html)
for us to keep relying on it.
Consequently, official packages using `dnsutils` were migrated to
`ldns`, a much nicer library which provides a `drill` command
that replaces `dig`, `nslookup`, and `host`.

We strongly suggest you migrate your own software to `ldns` too,
and replace `bind` with ldns-based alternatives:

- the `unbound` resolving server (see 
[wiki](https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unbound));
- the `nsd` authoritative server (see 
[wiki](https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nsd)).

The deprecated packages (`dnsutils` and `bind`)
will soon be dropped to the AUR.


-- 
Gaetan