Re: [arch-dev-public] brynhild down a.k.a pkgbuild.com
Nice to hear that. Jan, mentioned that it will help more to have ssd on build server as well. Should we get SSD for it as well for an extra 10 EURO/mo ? On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.comwrote: We absolutely have the funds for that! Shouldn't be a problem at all. I haven't done an exact in/out estimation of funds, but we have more than enough in reserve to cover this for a while. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Pierre Schmitz pie...@archlinux.de wrote: Am 28.03.2014 15:26, schrieb Ionut Biru: We have to do something about it before getting a new invoice for this piece of crap. I see that Bluewind started to resolve a bit this issue but now it's offline again. alderaan replacement - 32 gb ECC with 2x240gb ssd is a.k.a PX60-SSD 79 EURO/mo + 99 EURO setup brynhild replament (if we don't keep the current alderaan for building) - 32 gb non ecc - 49 EURO/mo + 49 EURO setup. We need to decide until 31 march. Lets do a vote. Let me forward that to Aaron to check if he can give his OK financially. That would be a one time fee of 99 + 49 = 148 EURO and our monthly fees would increase by 30 EURO. This means about 20 EURO extra for ECC RAM (if we still think that worth it) and 10 EURO for SSDs instead of spinning drives. Greetings, Pierre -- Pierre Schmitz, https://pierre-schmitz.com -- Ionut
Re: [arch-dev-public] brynhild down a.k.a pkgbuild.com
Am 30.03.2014 10:54, schrieb Ionut Biru: Nice to hear that. Jan, mentioned that it will help more to have ssd on build server as well. Should we get SSD for it as well for an extra 10 EURO/mo ? Sure, SSDs are allways faster. Problem is that we might run into disk space issues; atm we use about 111GB. We also might be able to use tmpfs to build. Anyway, as I don't use this system, decide whatever you think is best. Greetings, Pierre -- Pierre Schmitz, https://pierre-schmitz.com
Re: [arch-dev-public] brynhild down a.k.a pkgbuild.com
On 03/24/2014 07:11 PM, Pierre Schmitz wrote: Hi, A replacement for alderaan would be great as we could easily use more RAM for our DB. I'd even say the EX40 with SSDs might be worth a look. That would probably solve our forum search issues by brute force. I'd prefer this over ECC, but I wouldn't argue if we can pay for both. As for the current alderaan server: I'd say we cancel this as well and get at least an EX40 as build system. It's faster, has better disks and four times the RAM. The monthly fee is the same. Greetings, Pierre Hello, We have to do something about it before getting a new invoice for this piece of crap. I see that Bluewind started to resolve a bit this issue but now it's offline again. alderaan replacement - 32 gb ECC with 2x240gb ssd is a.k.a PX60-SSD 79€/mo + 99 € setup brynhild replament (if we don't keep the current alderaan for building) - 32 gb non ecc - 49€/mo + 49€ setup. We need to decide until 31 march. Lets do a vote. -- Ionuț signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-dev-public] brynhild down a.k.a pkgbuild.com
Am 28.03.2014 15:26, schrieb Ionut Biru: We have to do something about it before getting a new invoice for this piece of crap. I see that Bluewind started to resolve a bit this issue but now it's offline again. alderaan replacement - 32 gb ECC with 2x240gb ssd is a.k.a PX60-SSD 79€/mo + 99 € setup brynhild replament (if we don't keep the current alderaan for building) - 32 gb non ecc - 49€/mo + 49€ setup. We need to decide until 31 march. Lets do a vote. Let me forward that to Aaron to check if he can give his OK financially. That would be a one time fee of 99 + 49 = 148 € and our monthly fees would increase by 30 €. This means about 20 € extra for ECC RAM (if we still think that worth it) and 10 € for SSDs instead of spinning drives. Greetings, Pierre -- Pierre Schmitz, https://pierre-schmitz.com
Re: [arch-dev-public] brynhild down a.k.a pkgbuild.com
We absolutely have the funds for that! Shouldn't be a problem at all. I haven't done an exact in/out estimation of funds, but we have more than enough in reserve to cover this for a while. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Pierre Schmitz pie...@archlinux.dewrote: Am 28.03.2014 15:26, schrieb Ionut Biru: We have to do something about it before getting a new invoice for this piece of crap. I see that Bluewind started to resolve a bit this issue but now it's offline again. alderaan replacement - 32 gb ECC with 2x240gb ssd is a.k.a PX60-SSD 79€/mo + 99 € setup brynhild replament (if we don't keep the current alderaan for building) - 32 gb non ecc - 49€/mo + 49€ setup. We need to decide until 31 march. Lets do a vote. Let me forward that to Aaron to check if he can give his OK financially. That would be a one time fee of 99 + 49 = 148 € and our monthly fees would increase by 30 €. This means about 20 € extra for ECC RAM (if we still think that worth it) and 10 € for SSDs instead of spinning drives. Greetings, Pierre -- Pierre Schmitz, https://pierre-schmitz.com
Re: [arch-dev-public] brynhild down a.k.a pkgbuild.com
Am 22.03.2014 18:15 schrieb =?UTF-8?B?SW9udcibIELDrnJ1?= biru.io...@gmail.com: Update, they found nothing, that's not a surprise and we always had a problem with it (bit flip problem from time to time). I think is time to stop using this server and get a newer one. You guys mentioned that ecc it's a must. They have ex60 now with 32gb with intel xeon. for 69€/mo and for an additional ip we can have ipmi access as well but setup is 99€ My idea is to move forums/wiki/aur on this on since we struggle a bit with ram on alderaan and use alderaan as build box. What do you guys think? On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Ionuț Bîru biru.io...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Just to let you guys know, the server became unstable and unreachable 2 hours ago. Is rebooting by itself couples of times and then is unreachable and cannot be even hard rebooted from the interface. The guys from hetzner are performing a hardware check right now, they said it may take up to 10-14 hours. Sadly, I won't be available more to follow this, Florian is getting all the emails from support. -- Ionut -- Ionut Hi, A replacement for alderaan would be great as we could easily use more RAM for our DB. I'd even say the EX40 with SSDs might be worth a look. That would probably solve our forum search issues by brute force. I'd prefer this over ECC, but I wouldn't argue if we can pay for both. As for the current alderaan server: I'd say we cancel this as well and get at least an EX40 as build system. It's faster, has better disks and four times the RAM. The monthly fee is the same. Greetings, Pierre
Re: [arch-dev-public] brynhild down a.k.a pkgbuild.com
On 22/03/2014 19:50, Florian Pritz wrote: Disclaimer: I have experience with multiple Hetzner boxes, their support work flow and they have a forum which has a good amount of insider info which I like a lot. Better the devil you know ... The relation with your box provider is very important and I fully understand that's a key choice. You don't choose your server only based on price and technical specs. Not sure which OVH offers you are talking about. Those you linked are at best 16GiB RAM and and i5 and ofc no ecc ram. I pointed out Kimsufi (OVH) boxes for their low cost because they allow to split services between hosts instead of having all in a big expensive server. Smaller boxes with dedicated CPU and unlimited bandwidth. For example one for forums, one for wiki, etc. Maybe it's an option you didn't consider for pricing reason. The cpu is weaker (e3-1270v3 vs e3-1240v3), 100Mhz[1] :) I'm feeling that you (and probably Pierre too) are more confident with Hetzner service. Remember that Online.net has a challenging offer which may interest you if we want diversify or we need a real unlimited bandwidth, which come with higher storage (like backup or ...). we'd get HW raid (which is probably more trouble than it's worth with a 2 disk system) and the choice between 600gb 10k sas, 120gb ssd or 3tb sata disks. I share your feeling with the HW RAID, but you could request to disabling it and use the raid card as an HBA. What I do on this box. Cheers, [1] http://ark.intel.com/compare/75055,75056 -- Sébastien Seblu Luttringer https://seblu.net | Twitter: @seblu42 GPG: 0x2072D77A signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-dev-public] brynhild down a.k.a pkgbuild.com
Update, they found nothing, that's not a surprise and we always had a problem with it (bit flip problem from time to time). I think is time to stop using this server and get a newer one. You guys mentioned that ecc it's a must. They have ex60 now with 32gb with intel xeon. for 69€/mo and for an additional ip we can have ipmi access as well but setup is 99€ My idea is to move forums/wiki/aur on this on since we struggle a bit with ram on alderaan and use alderaan as build box. What do you guys think? On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Ionuț Bîru biru.io...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Just to let you guys know, the server became unstable and unreachable 2 hours ago. Is rebooting by itself couples of times and then is unreachable and cannot be even hard rebooted from the interface. The guys from hetzner are performing a hardware check right now, they said it may take up to 10-14 hours. Sadly, I won't be available more to follow this, Florian is getting all the emails from support. -- Ionut -- Ionut
Re: [arch-dev-public] brynhild down a.k.a pkgbuild.com
On 22.03.2014 18:15, Ionuț Bîru wrote: You guys mentioned that ecc it's a must. They have ex60 now with 32gb with intel xeon. for 69€/mo and for an additional ip we can have ipmi access as well but setup is 99€ PX60 not EX60. The necessary extra ip costs 1€/month. Specs: http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/px60 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-dev-public] brynhild down a.k.a pkgbuild.com
On 22/03/2014 18:15, Ionuț Bîru wrote: Update, they found nothing, that's not a surprise and we always had a problem with it (bit flip problem from time to time). I think is time to stop using this server and get a newer one. You guys mentioned that ecc it's a must. They have ex60 now with 32gb with intel xeon. for 69€/mo and for an additional ip we can have ipmi access as well but setup is 99€ My idea is to move forums/wiki/aur on this on since we struggle a bit with ram on alderaan and use alderaan as build box. What do you guys think? Offers from Online.net[1] and OVH[2] seems to be better. For the same price at Online.net[3] you have: - No traffic limitation (!!) - 400 Mbit/s garanteed BP - Dell iDrac (dell web ipmi) (no additional IP is required) - Arbor AntiDDOS protection - 2x3TB I have one box hosted by them, and the service is good. [1] http://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server [2] http://www.kimsufi.com/uk/ [3] http://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-pro2k14 -- Sébastien Seblu Luttringer https://seblu.net | Twitter: @seblu42 GPG: 0x2072D77A signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-dev-public] brynhild down a.k.a pkgbuild.com
Disclaimer: I have experience with multiple Hetzner boxes, their support work flow and they have a forum which has a good amount of insider info which I like a lot. Better the devil you know ... On 22.03.2014 19:04, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: Offers from Online.net[1] and OVH[2] seems to be better. Not sure which OVH offers you are talking about. Those you linked are at best 16GiB RAM and and i5 and ofc no ecc ram. Best offer I found with ecc is this[1] which is a whole lot more expensive (note the excl vat). [1]: https://www.ovh.co.uk/dedicated_servers/enterprise/2014-SP-64.xml For the same price at Online.net[3] you have: - No traffic limitation (!!) Not sure we care about that, we currently use ~1TiB on alderaan. Hetzner has 20TiB, after that 2€/TiB. More than enough. Also they keep increasing the limit (past few times it doubled or more) every now and then. - 400 Mbit/s garanteed BP I tend to get Gbit on my box, that 200Mbit/s guarantee just means that if you don't get 200Mbit/s because rack neighbours use too much you will be relocated to a rack with better uplink. - Arbor AntiDDOS protection Hetzner is working on DDoS protection afaik. - 2x3TB Also while we are comparing things: The cpu is weaker (e3-1270v3 vs e3-1240v3), but we'd get HW raid (which is probably more trouble than it's worth with a 2 disk system) and the choice between 600gb 10k sas, 120gb ssd or 3tb sata disks. Alderaan currently uses ~45GiB of disk space. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
