Re: [arch-dev-public] [Draft] ABS announcement

2008-04-16 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Travis Willard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So... are we going to announce the SVN move, or should I just go on
>  ahead and announce the ABS stuff?

For the record, I think announcing the SVN move is a tad silly. People
don't care how we manage our repos, and if they do, they're probably
watching this list anyway.



Re: [arch-dev-public] [Draft] ABS announcement

2008-04-15 Thread Travis Willard
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Dan McGee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Travis Willard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Travis Willard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  > So... are we going to announce the SVN move, or should I just go on
>  >  >  ahead and announce the ABS stuff?
>  >  >
>  >
>  >  Oh, and revised draft:
>  >
>  >
>  >  ---8<-8<
>  >  ABS 2.0 In Testing
>  >
>  >  With version 2, ABS has moved to an rsync method for pulling the ABS
>  >  tree, as part of the changes that needed to be made for our internal
>  >  move from CVS to SVN as our source control mechanism.  This means a
>  >  few things:
>  >
>  >
>  > 1) cvsup/csup are no longer required, rsync is used instead
>  >  2) Configuration moved from /etc/abs/abs.conf to /etc/abs.conf -
>  >  /etc/abs/* are no longer required
>  >
>  >
>  >  Also, since category information (ie. base, devel, editors) is no
>  >  longer stored in the repo, makeworld has been updated - check
>  >  makeworld -h for more info.
>  >  ---8<-8<
>
>  Looks great. Get it out there.

Done



Re: [arch-dev-public] [Draft] ABS announcement

2008-04-15 Thread Dan McGee
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Travis Willard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Travis Willard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > So... are we going to announce the SVN move, or should I just go on
>  >  ahead and announce the ABS stuff?
>  >
>
>  Oh, and revised draft:
>
>
>  ---8<-8<
>  ABS 2.0 In Testing
>
>  With version 2, ABS has moved to an rsync method for pulling the ABS
>  tree, as part of the changes that needed to be made for our internal
>  move from CVS to SVN as our source control mechanism.  This means a
>  few things:
>
>
> 1) cvsup/csup are no longer required, rsync is used instead
>  2) Configuration moved from /etc/abs/abs.conf to /etc/abs.conf -
>  /etc/abs/* are no longer required
>
>
>  Also, since category information (ie. base, devel, editors) is no
>  longer stored in the repo, makeworld has been updated - check
>  makeworld -h for more info.
>  ---8<-8<

Looks great. Get it out there.

-Dan



Re: [arch-dev-public] [Draft] ABS announcement

2008-04-15 Thread Travis Willard
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Travis Willard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Travis Willard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > So... are we going to announce the SVN move, or should I just go on
>  >  ahead and announce the ABS stuff?
>  >
>
>  Oh, and revised draft:
>
>
>  ---8<-8<
>  ABS 2.0 In Testing

Should read "ABS 2.0 in Core" sorry



Re: [arch-dev-public] [Draft] ABS announcement

2008-04-15 Thread Travis Willard
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Travis Willard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So... are we going to announce the SVN move, or should I just go on
>  ahead and announce the ABS stuff?
>

Oh, and revised draft:

---8<-8<
ABS 2.0 In Testing

With version 2, ABS has moved to an rsync method for pulling the ABS
tree, as part of the changes that needed to be made for our internal
move from CVS to SVN as our source control mechanism.  This means a
few things:

1) cvsup/csup are no longer required, rsync is used instead
2) Configuration moved from /etc/abs/abs.conf to /etc/abs.conf -
/etc/abs/* are no longer required

Also, since category information (ie. base, devel, editors) is no
longer stored in the repo, makeworld has been updated - check
makeworld -h for more info.
---8<-8<

- had more votes for removal of #3 (filtering outbound traffic) than
for inclusion, so it's toast.



Re: [arch-dev-public] [Draft] ABS announcement

2008-04-15 Thread Travis Willard
So... are we going to announce the SVN move, or should I just go on
ahead and announce the ABS stuff?



Re: [arch-dev-public] [Draft] ABS announcement

2008-04-12 Thread Xavier

Thomas Bächler wrote:


I wouldn't mention that at all. Just mention it now uses rsync, whoever 
filters outbound traffic will know exactly what to do.




That's also what I was thinking.
It already mentions that rsync is used, but I would insist on it, for 
example, by changing 1) to something like:


1) cvsup/csup are no longer required, rsync is used instead

Then 3) can be removed.

But otherwise, eliott's version of 3) is much clearer.



Re: [arch-dev-public] [Draft] ABS announcement

2008-04-12 Thread Thomas Bächler

Travis Willard schrieb:

On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Roman Kyrylych
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Sounds fine to me except #3 - I don't understand it (and I probably
 some users will too).
 Can you explain it please?


Basically, if you had to allow certain ports access to the net through
a firewall.  rsync uses different ports than cvsup/csup, so anyone
with firewall rules to allow ABS to connect will have to change the
port in those rules



I wouldn't mention that at all. Just mention it now uses rsync, whoever 
filters outbound traffic will know exactly what to do.




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Re: [arch-dev-public] [Draft] ABS announcement

2008-04-12 Thread eliott
On 4/12/08, Travis Willard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> May as well tell the people what's happening with ABS.  Here's an
>  announcement draft:
>
>  ---8<-8<
>  ABS 2.0 In Testing
>
>  With version 2, ABS has moved to an rsync method for pulling the ABS
>  tree, as part of the changes that needed to be made for our internal
>  move from CVS to SVN as our source control mechanism.  This means a
>  few things:
>
>  1) cvsup/csup are no longer required
>  2) /etc/abs/supfile.* are no longer required
>  3) Anyone opening ports for use with ABS will now need to open port
>  837, the rsync port
>
>  Also, since category information (ie. base, devel, editors) is no
>  longer stored in the repo, makeworld has been updated - check
>  makeworld -h for more info.
>  ---8<-8<

3) For ABS users who filter *outbound* traffic: Please note that rsync
uses a different port than the previous abs+cvsup combination. Rsync
uses port 837, so make sure to adjust any firewall rules accordingly.



Re: [arch-dev-public] [Draft] ABS announcement

2008-04-12 Thread Travis Willard
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Roman Kyrylych
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Sounds fine to me except #3 - I don't understand it (and I probably
>  some users will too).
>  Can you explain it please?

Basically, if you had to allow certain ports access to the net through
a firewall.  rsync uses different ports than cvsup/csup, so anyone
with firewall rules to allow ABS to connect will have to change the
port in those rules



Re: [arch-dev-public] [Draft] ABS announcement

2008-04-12 Thread Roman Kyrylych
2008/4/12, Travis Willard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> May as well tell the people what's happening with ABS.  Here's an
>  announcement draft:
>
>  ---8<-8<
>  ABS 2.0 In Testing
>
>  With version 2, ABS has moved to an rsync method for pulling the ABS
>  tree, as part of the changes that needed to be made for our internal
>  move from CVS to SVN as our source control mechanism.  This means a
>  few things:
>
>  1) cvsup/csup are no longer required
>  2) /etc/abs/supfile.* are no longer required
>  3) Anyone opening ports for use with ABS will now need to open port
>  837, the rsync port
>
>  Also, since category information (ie. base, devel, editors) is no
>  longer stored in the repo, makeworld has been updated - check
>  makeworld -h for more info.
>  ---8<-8<
>
>  Thoughts?

Sounds fine to me except #3 - I don't understand it (and I probably
some users will too).
Can you explain it please?

Also, since you mentioned SVN move - should we make an announcement
about SVN move first (or combine it with ABS newsitem)? *shrugs*
(probably this had to be done (as Andy mentioned) as soon as we've
made CVS read-only, but oh well).


P.S.: now (after abs signoff) csup can be removed from Core, I think.

-- 
Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)