Re: [arch-general] Jacman. Problem installing packages (don't panic)
2008/2/8, Stefano Esposito [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well... I think I'll contribute to that on archlinux-projects and drop mine bindings :) Is the project still active? And who's the author (i'm not able to find (s)he on archlinux-projects.org :)) Georg Grabler was a TU but resigned due to life chages, so I'm not sure if he has time and wish to continue his alpm bindings, but maybe you can continue his development. Drop him a line. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Jacman. Problem installing packages (don't panic)
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:31:18 +0100 Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stefano Esposito wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:18:24 +0100 solsTiCe d'Hiver[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi. IMHO, at the actually status of pacman, is a suicide go to programming a GUI. what do you mean by that ? i wonder why after pacman is finally splitted into two with a library like libalpm, we do not see more GUI popping up... i have tried to use libalpm just to see; it's not easy but i am a newbie at programming in C. anyone ? I'm trying to write a python binding to be used in the next future of gtkpacman. By now i've implemented just alpm_db* (with a Database class), alpm_pkg* (with a Package class) and alpm_option* (with an Alpm class). If anyone wants to take a look it's on berlios.de, project pyalpm (you'll need pyrex to compile the module). Of course is totally not documented :). Any help in the project would be very appreciated, so if anyone is intersted feel free to contact me ;) Hm, do we have 2 pyalpm now? http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/pyalpm/trunk/ http://svn.archlinux-projects.org/repos/pyalpm/trunk/src/ Well... I think I'll contribute to that on archlinux-projects and drop mine bindings :) Is the project still active? And who's the author (i'm not able to find (s)he on archlinux-projects.org :)) -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: New Giorno e Notte Plus: ordina il prodotto dimagrante n° 1 in Italia * * Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=7109d=8-2
[arch-general] What should be done with octave?
Hi, Arch has octave-2.1.73 in extra. The current stable version of octave is 3.0.0 but it is not backwards compatible with the 2.1.x series. The gcc-4.2.3 migration has broken octave due to a versioned dependency on gcc-fortran. Also, the PKGBUILD has no license or md5sum entries. The octave-2.1.73 PKGBUILD will need fixing but should it be updated to 3.0.0 and, if so, should a legacy octave2 package be created? I'm looking for opinions before I file any bug report. Regards, Neil Darlow
Re: [arch-general] mozilla /usr move
On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 01:24:49AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 7, 2008 6:40 PM, Petar Bogdanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 12:10:19AM +0200, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 08:26:09PM +0100, Jan de Groot wrote: Hi all, I've cleaned up testing a bit: - moved xulrunner/seamonkey/firefox and friends to extra. This is part of the /usr move Any idea why an /opt/mozilla/lib directory is still created by one of those packages? It doesnt seem to be part of any of these filelists. I wanted to ask this when the packages were still in testing but totally forgot to. $ sudo pacman -Ql jre | grep /opt/mozilla jre /opt/mozilla/ jre /opt/mozilla/lib/ jre /opt/mozilla/lib/plugins/ jre /opt/mozilla/lib/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so Has anybody noticed this? Apparently you have. ;) I don't know if any devs have tho - file a bugreport. There is also some lint(ing) in the /opt/mozilla hierarchy you might want to mention in your bug report. Could you post an example? Uh, sure thing !:12 09:24 pkgconfig drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-02-07 21:25 plugins The pkgconfig was probably NOT ls -al /opt/mozilla/lib/ total 16 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2008-02-07 21:25 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2008-02-07 21:25 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-12-12 09:24 pkgconfig drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-02-07 21:25 plugins The pkgconfig might NOT have been created by mozilla et al BUT if mozilla is removed from /opt for /usr , well this remains nonetheless. Good question by the way. Very best regards; Bob Finch Liviu Librescu - În veci pomenirea lui. (May his memory be eternal.)
Re: [arch-general] get pid of daemon in init script
On Feb 8, 2008 1:27 PM, Michael Krauss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi to .*
I must write a rc init script for a server I am packaging.
Therefor I have copied the init script of cups.
Now I recognized that both pid files, cups.pid and my own, in /var/run
are empty.
Further investigations have shown that
pidof -o %PPID -x /usr/bin/cdvserver
returns nothing in the start) case but in stop) it seems to work.
I don't understand why pidof isn't working as expected.
Because you are calling pidof before the process starts- bash does not
do lazy evaluation of your expressions.
If you want to store the PID of the newly started process, you will
have to make another PID=... call to get it in the else block where
you access it.
Here is my init script:
#!/bin/bash
. /etc/rc.conf
. /etc/rc.d/functions
PID=`pidof -o %PPID -x /usr/bin/cdvserver`
PIDFILE=/var/run/cdvserver.pid
case $1 in
start)
stat_busy Starting Codeville Server
[ -z $PID ] /usr/bin/cdvserver
if [ $? -gt 0 ]; then
stat_fail
else
echo Started $PID
echo $PID $PIDFILE
add_daemon cdv
stat_done
fi
;;
stop)
stat_busy Stopping Codeville Server
[ ! -z $PID ] kill $PID /dev/null
if [ $? -gt 0 ]; then
stat_fail
else
rm $PIDFILE
rm_daemon cdv
stat_done
fi
;;
restart)
$0 stop
sleep 1
$0 start
;;
*)
echo usage: $0 {start|stop|restart}
esac
exit 0
[arch-general] get pid of daemon in init script
Hi to .*
I must write a rc init script for a server I am packaging.
Therefor I have copied the init script of cups.
Now I recognized that both pid files, cups.pid and my own, in /var/run
are empty.
Further investigations have shown that
pidof -o %PPID -x /usr/bin/cdvserver
returns nothing in the start) case but in stop) it seems to work.
I don't understand why pidof isn't working as expected.
Kind Regards,
Michael Krauss
Here is my init script:
#!/bin/bash
. /etc/rc.conf
. /etc/rc.d/functions
PID=`pidof -o %PPID -x /usr/bin/cdvserver`
PIDFILE=/var/run/cdvserver.pid
case $1 in
start)
stat_busy Starting Codeville Server
[ -z $PID ] /usr/bin/cdvserver
if [ $? -gt 0 ]; then
stat_fail
else
echo Started $PID
echo $PID $PIDFILE
add_daemon cdv
stat_done
fi
;;
stop)
stat_busy Stopping Codeville Server
[ ! -z $PID ] kill $PID /dev/null
if [ $? -gt 0 ]; then
stat_fail
else
rm $PIDFILE
rm_daemon cdv
stat_done
fi
;;
restart)
$0 stop
sleep 1
$0 start
;;
*)
echo usage: $0 {start|stop|restart}
esac
exit 0
Re: [arch-general] get pid of daemon in init script
On Feb 8, 2008 3:06 PM, Sentinel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! It works perfectly (at least for me), just you have to ensure, that you call it with appropriate rights while testing: my testing: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su Password: with power comes great responsibility [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sentinel# PID=`pidof -o %PPID -x /usr/sbin/proftpd` [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sentinel# echo $PID 7469 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sentinel# [ -z $PID ] echo pid is empty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sentinel# Tom That is because you already have /usr/sbin/proftpd running. In the case of running the start initscript, the PID is sampled before the application ever starts, and hence will return no PID, as Dan already explained.
Re: [arch-general] get pid of daemon in init script
Hi!
It works perfectly (at least for me), just you have to ensure, that you
call it with appropriate rights while testing:
my testing:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su
Password:
with power comes great responsibility
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sentinel# PID=`pidof -o %PPID -x /usr/sbin/proftpd`
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sentinel# echo $PID
7469
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sentinel# [ -z $PID ] echo pid is empty
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sentinel#
Tom
Dan McGee wrote:
On Feb 8, 2008 1:27 PM, Michael Krauss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi to .*
I must write a rc init script for a server I am packaging.
Therefor I have copied the init script of cups.
Now I recognized that both pid files, cups.pid and my own, in /var/run
are empty.
Further investigations have shown that
pidof -o %PPID -x /usr/bin/cdvserver
returns nothing in the start) case but in stop) it seems to work.
I don't understand why pidof isn't working as expected.
Because you are calling pidof before the process starts- bash does not
do lazy evaluation of your expressions.
If you want to store the PID of the newly started process, you will
have to make another PID=... call to get it in the else block where
you access it.
Here is my init script:
#!/bin/bash
. /etc/rc.conf
. /etc/rc.d/functions
PID=`pidof -o %PPID -x /usr/bin/cdvserver`
PIDFILE=/var/run/cdvserver.pid
case $1 in
start)
stat_busy Starting Codeville Server
[ -z $PID ] /usr/bin/cdvserver
if [ $? -gt 0 ]; then
stat_fail
else
echo Started $PID
echo $PID $PIDFILE
add_daemon cdv
stat_done
fi
;;
stop)
stat_busy Stopping Codeville Server
[ ! -z $PID ] kill $PID /dev/null
if [ $? -gt 0 ]; then
stat_fail
else
rm $PIDFILE
rm_daemon cdv
stat_done
fi
;;
restart)
$0 stop
sleep 1
$0 start
;;
*)
echo usage: $0 {start|stop|restart}
esac
exit 0
[arch-general] Fw: get pid of daemon in init script
On 08/02/08, Dan McGee wrote: Because you are calling pidof before the process starts- bash does not do lazy evaluation of your expressions. If you want to store the PID of the newly started process, you will have to make another PID=... call to get it in the else block where you access it. Ohh, you are absolutely right. It is working now. I must get this damn Common Lisp out of my head before writing shell scripts next time. I will file a bug report on cups too. Thanks, Michael Krauss
Re: [arch-general] get pid of daemon in init script
yes you are right. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sentinel# /etc/rc.d/proftpd stop :: Stopping ProFTPd Server [DONE] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sentinel# PID=`pidof -o %PPID -x /usr/sbin/proftpd` [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sentinel# echo $PID [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sentinel# Sorry, I made a mistake. I usually do not have my ftp server running. But I forgot, that I was moving something between my computer and laptop. :) Btw proftpd's init script does the same. The proftpd.pid file is empty. T Travis Willard wrote: On Feb 8, 2008 3:06 PM, Sentinel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! It works perfectly (at least for me), just you have to ensure, that you call it with appropriate rights while testing: my testing: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su Password: with power comes great responsibility [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sentinel# PID=`pidof -o %PPID -x /usr/sbin/proftpd` [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sentinel# echo $PID 7469 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sentinel# [ -z $PID ] echo pid is empty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/sentinel# Tom That is because you already have /usr/sbin/proftpd running. In the case of running the start initscript, the PID is sampled before the application ever starts, and hence will return no PID, as Dan already explained.
Re: [arch-general] mozilla /usr move
On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 12:20:31AM -0500, Travis Willard wrote: On Feb 7, 2008 6:40 PM, Petar Bogdanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 12:10:19AM +0200, Grigorios Bouzakis wrote: On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 08:26:09PM +0100, Jan de Groot wrote: Hi all, I've cleaned up testing a bit: - moved xulrunner/seamonkey/firefox and friends to extra. This is part of the /usr move Any idea why an /opt/mozilla/lib directory is still created by one of those packages? It doesnt seem to be part of any of these filelists. I wanted to ask this when the packages were still in testing but totally forgot to. $ sudo pacman -Ql jre | grep /opt/mozilla jre /opt/mozilla/ jre /opt/mozilla/lib/ jre /opt/mozilla/lib/plugins/ jre /opt/mozilla/lib/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so Has anybody noticed this? Apparently you have. ;) I don't know if any devs have tho - file a bugreport. http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9498
Re: [arch-general] X11 man pages
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 17:13 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: On Feb 8, 2008 5:06 PM, marc[î1] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Arch devs put man pages in /usr/share/man like FHS want, ok. But FHS says : « Manual pages for X11R6 are stored in /usr/X11R6/man. It follows that all manual page hierarchies in the system must have the same structure as /usr/share/man. » http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#USRSHAREMANMANUALPAGES I don't understand FHS or ArchLinux should put X11 man page in /usr/X11R6/man ? Hmmm, I actually think you might be right here. It seems weird, but the FHS is fairly explicit on it. I'd suggest you file a bug report about this. As for Travis' comment, xorg 7 is an implementation of X11R6. No, not the crappy /usr/X11R6 prefix again. FHS or not, the manpages don't belong in a directory where the rest isn't installed. Even Debian, the most FHS-compliant distro I know, isn't installing X11 packages in /usr/X11R6 anymore.
Re: [arch-general] X11 man pages
On Feb 8, 2008 5:35 PM, Roman Kyrylych [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/2/9, Jan de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No, not the crappy /usr/X11R6 prefix again. FHS or not, the manpages don't belong in a directory where the rest isn't installed. Even Debian, the most FHS-compliant distro I know, isn't installing X11 packages in /usr/X11R6 anymore. +1! /usr/X11R6 must die! :-P I will be pissed off if you put this stupid worthless directory back on my machine. Are we in the 1980s again? This would go against any removal of things such as installs in /opt/ that we have been working so hard to fix. This is even more retarded because we run X11R7 for that matter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System#Release_history -Dan
