Re: [arch-general] netcfg2: background running

2008-05-09 Thread gan lu
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Aaron Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 11:21 PM, gan lu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Do your great devs plan to add support of  background running capability
  (adding @ like in the rc.conf daemon section) for netcfg2 (net-profile),
 I
  have set a ethernet-static and adsl internet connection when booting up,
 but
  if adsl got some trouble to connect, which makes my computer waiting for
 it
  like ages. Thanks.
 

 Couldn't you just reorder the profiles so that the ethernet starts
 (and possibly fails) first, then the adsl connection is tried?


No, no, my ethernet is OK, but sometimes with ISP problem it will take quite
some time to get connected. Thanks for your reply.


Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] policy on desktop files?

2008-05-09 Thread Xavier
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 6:32 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Why ?, well there is no reason NOT to have one in such circumstances, and
 often the upstream guys are expecting the downstream packagers to supply
 it. - And that's o.k. with me.


That's not alright. Anything that causes useless and stupid duplicated
work is not alright.
In my opinion, here is how things should work:
User X notices package foo is missing a .desktop file
X checks if a desktop file is already provided in upstream source tarball
If yes, he reports a bug on arch bug tracker asking to provide the
desktop file, and it's over.
If not, he writes a desktop file and submit it upstream.
If upstream accepts, it's over.
If upstream first refuses, people should keep insisting and trying to
make sense of them.
Finally, in the (hopefully few) cases where upstream is really too
dumb, he can submit it to arch bug tracker as an arch specific desktop
file.

Hopefully this should reduce the load of arch packagers and move it to
arch community and upstream.



Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] policy on desktop files?

2008-05-09 Thread Neil Darlow

Hi,

Xavier wrote:

Hopefully this should reduce the load of arch packagers and move it to
arch community and upstream.


There is also the situation that upstream may not provide a .desktop 
file on the basis of:


1) The belief that distributions should decide which menu the item 
should appear on
2) The desire not to get involved with providing I18N for the .desktop 
contents


If upstream is forced to provide a .desktop file which requires 
modification of e.g. category or provision of additional I18N content 
then we're now in the realms of patching .desktop files too.


I agree that any .desktop file we create should be submitted upstream, 
at least for their consideration.


Regards,
Neil Darlow



Re: [arch-general] netcfg2: background running

2008-05-09 Thread Emmanuel Benisty
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:21 AM, gan lu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do your great devs plan to add support of  background running capability
 (adding @ like in the rc.conf daemon section) for netcfg2 (net-profile), I
 have set a ethernet-static and adsl internet connection when booting up, but
 if adsl got some trouble to connect, which makes my computer waiting for it
 like ages. Thanks.


I'm starting netcfg2 in the background since ages.