[arch-general] weird thing with X and nvidia driver

2009-03-06 Thread Eric Wong
Hi,
 I run Arch linux with KDE 4.2 on a machine with a Geforce 6200 LE card. But 
recently I have been experiencing some weird things. At the begining I was 
running KDE 4.2.0 with a nvidia-180.22 driver and the X process consumes 
lots of memory graduately, even to 200+ MB some times. Then I updated to 
KDE4.2.1 and the problem disappeared. But today, after I update the video 
driver to nvidia-180.29 it is here again. I have no idea which component 
cause it. KDE, nvidia dirver or xorg?
  Another weird thing is with the nvidia driver. Before updating to 188.29, 
glxgear had about 1060 FPS. After update and I restarted the KDE. Then 
glxgear told me the nvidia api dismatch, that is, the kernel module is still 
180.22 but other parts of the driver is 180.29, and it has 1300+ FPS, then I 
remove the old module and modprobe the new one so it runs 180.29 now, but it 
is 1060FPS again. There's no improvement over 180.22!
  What's the problem?




[arch-general] Nouveau sources not on the ftp

2009-03-06 Thread Chris Bannister
Hi, im trying to rebuild nouveau for zen kernel but the source isnt on
the FTP [1], does anyone have it? Or shall i just build from git.

Thanks, Chris


[1] ftp://archlinux.org/other/nouveau-drm/mesa-drm-20090303.tar.bz2


Re: [arch-general] Nouveau sources not on the ftp

2009-03-06 Thread Xavier
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Chris Bannister c.bannis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, im trying to rebuild nouveau for zen kernel but the source isnt on
 the FTP [1], does anyone have it? Or shall i just build from git.

 Thanks, Chris


 [1] ftp://archlinux.org/other/nouveau-drm/mesa-drm-20090303.tar.bz2


When you have an incorrect url, it is usually a good idea to try going
up. You could have seen ftp://archlinux.org did not work either.
It is ftp://ftp.archlinux.org
ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/other/nouveau-drm/mesa-drm-20090303.tar.bz2


Re: [arch-general] Nouveau sources not on the ftp

2009-03-06 Thread Chris Bannister
Yeah ive just noticed that lol. Thanks

2009/3/6 Xavier shinin...@gmail.com:
 On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Chris Bannister c.bannis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, im trying to rebuild nouveau for zen kernel but the source isnt on
 the FTP [1], does anyone have it? Or shall i just build from git.

 Thanks, Chris


 [1] ftp://archlinux.org/other/nouveau-drm/mesa-drm-20090303.tar.bz2


 When you have an incorrect url, it is usually a good idea to try going
 up. You could have seen ftp://archlinux.org did not work either.
 It is ftp://ftp.archlinux.org
 ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/other/nouveau-drm/mesa-drm-20090303.tar.bz2



Re: [arch-general] xinput in ArchLinux

2009-03-06 Thread Damjan Georgievski
 Xinput isnt the one available here:  ftp://ftp.x.org/contrib/utilities/
 The source is available here now, updated:
 http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/individual/app/
 last release 15th of Jan 2009. I dont know how useful it is though.

I wan't aware that there was an old xinput too. So whatever was true
about the old xinput, it's probably not true anymore.

I've learned about xinput from the http://planet.freedesktop.org
agregator, latest entry is from Peter Hutterer
(http://who-t.blogspot.com/2009/01/tip-of-day-wheel-emulation.html).

So, basically, the xinput utility is the only way to query the X
servers input devices, list and change their properties.
It also seems to be used for the MPX functionallity (slowly entering
in the upstream xorg).

-- 
damjan


Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Newsletter for March, 2009

2009-03-06 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:54 PM, BinkyTheClown bi...@archlinux.us wrote:
 2009/3/5 Recent News Updates annou...@archlinux.org

 The Arch Linux Newsletter team is proud to announce the a href=
 http://www.archlinux.org/static/newsletters/newsletter-2009-mar.html;Newsletter
 for February 2009/a. To discuss this newsletter, a href=
 http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=510237;click here/a. To read
 past issues of the Arch Linux Newsletter, a href=
 http://www.archlinux.org/static/newsletters/;here they are/a.

 URL: http://www.archlinux.org/news/437/
 ___
 arch-announce mailing list
 arch-annou...@archlinux.org
 http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-announce

 Am I the only one that is receiving ugly html tags in the newsletter?

Moving to the arch-general list.

No, you are not. The front-page news contains HTML tags, but rss2email
doesn't seem to strip them out. I'm open to ideas as to how to fix
this.


Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Newsletter for March, 2009

2009-03-06 Thread Johannes Held
Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com:
 I'm open to ideas as to how to fix this.
The code which inserts the news into the database could also send that mail
(and strip unwanted content).

-- 
Gruß, Johannes
Täglich http://blog.hehejo.de und du fühlst dich gut.

http://cryptocd.eduforge.org/online_version


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Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Newsletter for March, 2009

2009-03-06 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Johannes Held m...@hehejo.de wrote:
 Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com:
 I'm open to ideas as to how to fix this.
 The code which inserts the news into the database could also send that mail
 (and strip unwanted content).

That seems a little complex and confusing as now we need to add email
capabilities to website code, and then give that sender permission to
post on the announce list.

Naw, I prefer the more unixy way of just use the output of ThingA,
pump it through ThingB - in this case, and RSS feed through
rss2email.

And now that I look at it, it SHOULD be converting HTML to plain text.

Dusty, are we sending html content as text/plain content in these
feeds? That could cause the issue here


Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Newsletter for March, 2009

2009-03-06 Thread Abhishek Dasgupta
2009/3/6 Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com:
 And now that I look at it, it SHOULD be converting HTML to plain text.

 Dusty, are we sending html content as text/plain content in these
 feeds? That could cause the issue here

I think that's the reason, the a href=... appears in the RSS view in Firefox
as well, when it should appear as a link.

-- 
Abhishek


Re: [arch-general] xorg-server 1.6.0 in testing

2009-03-06 Thread Marc Deop i Argemí
On Wednesday 04 March 2009 09:26:29 Georg Grabler wrote:
 So it's the intel driver which is most likely broken upstream for our
 chipset. The old intel driver works perfectly with the new xorg and libdrm.

It should work according to this:

http://intellinuxgraphics.org/results/2009-01-15__0/result.htm


[arch-general] Can't Connect to localhost/127.0.0.1 until I'm connected to a network

2009-03-06 Thread Thomas Bohn

Hello,

When I boot my computer the connection to the wifi network takes a 
while, until then I can't connect to localhost. So I can't use mpd for 
example, I musst either turn off my wifi card or wait until I'm 
connected.


This is quite annoying, is there a way to solve that problem or at least 
get a better diagnosis for solving it on my own?


Thomas


Re: [arch-general] Can't Connect to localhost/127.0.0.1 until I'm connected to a network

2009-03-06 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Thomas Bohn tho...@bohnomat.de wrote:
 Hello,

 When I boot my computer the connection to the wifi network takes a while,
 until then I can't connect to localhost. So I can't use mpd for example, I
 musst either turn off my wifi card or wait until I'm connected.

 This is quite annoying, is there a way to solve that problem or at least get
 a better diagnosis for solving it on my own?

The lo interface is brought up by rc.sysinit right after it processes
udev events. Do you, by chance, still have lo in your rc.conf
INTERFACES array?


Re: [arch-general] Can't Connect to localhost/127.0.0.1 until I'm connected to a network

2009-03-06 Thread Thomas Bohn

On 2009-03-06 16:04 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote:


The lo interface is brought up by rc.sysinit right after it processes
udev events. Do you, by chance, still have lo in your rc.conf
INTERFACES array?


No, my INTERFACES array looks like this:

INTERFACES=()

It is empty and commented


Re: [arch-general] Can't Connect to localhost/127.0.0.1 until I'm connected to a network

2009-03-06 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Thomas Bohn tho...@bohnomat.de wrote:
 On 2009-03-06 16:04 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote:

 The lo interface is brought up by rc.sysinit right after it processes
 udev events. Do you, by chance, still have lo in your rc.conf
 INTERFACES array?

 No, my INTERFACES array looks like this:

 INTERFACES=()

 It is empty and commented

Ok, well... if you shut off your network AFTERWARDS, does it block
your connection attempts too? Does /etc/hosts have localhost in
there?

At each step of the process, try running ifconfig lo to check what's
going on with lo at that point.


Re: [arch-general] Can't Connect to localhost/127.0.0.1 until I'm connected to a network

2009-03-06 Thread Thomas Bohn

On 2009-03-06 16:11 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote:


Ok, well... if you shut off your network AFTERWARDS, does it block
your connection attempts too? Does /etc/hosts have localhost in
there?


When I shutdown the connection it doesn't work, the loop interface stays 
the same all the way.


lo when connected:
---snip---
% ifconfig lo
loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0

  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:23 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:23 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:2167 (2.1 Kb)  TX bytes:2167 (2.1 Kb)

---snip---

when disconnected:
---snip---
% ifconfig lo
loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0

  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:23 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:23 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:2167 (2.1 Kb)  TX bytes:2167 (2.1 Kb)

---snip---

When I try to run ncmpcpp, when I'm disconnected:
---snip---
 % ncmpcpp
Cannot connect to mpd: host localhost not found: Temporary failure in name 
resolution
% ncmpcpp
Cannot connect to mpd: host 127.0.0.1 not found: Address family for hostname 
not supported
---snip---

It is just weird.

Thomas


Re: [arch-general] Can't Connect to localhost/127.0.0.1 until I'm connected to a network

2009-03-06 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Thomas Bohn tho...@bohnomat.de wrote:
 On 2009-03-06 16:11 -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote:

 Ok, well... if you shut off your network AFTERWARDS, does it block
 your connection attempts too? Does /etc/hosts have localhost in
 there?

 When I shutdown the connection it doesn't work, the loop interface stays the
 same all the way.

 lo when connected:
 ---snip---
 % ifconfig lo
 lo        Link encap:Local Loopback            inet addr:127.0.0.1
  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:23 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:23 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0          RX bytes:2167 (2.1 Kb)  TX
 bytes:2167 (2.1 Kb)
 ---snip---

 when disconnected:
 ---snip---
 % ifconfig lo
 lo        Link encap:Local Loopback            inet addr:127.0.0.1
  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:23 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:23 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0          RX bytes:2167 (2.1 Kb)  TX
 bytes:2167 (2.1 Kb)
 ---snip---

 When I try to run ncmpcpp, when I'm disconnected:
 ---snip---
  % ncmpcpp
 Cannot connect to mpd: host localhost not found: Temporary failure in name
 resolution
 % ncmpcpp
 Cannot connect to mpd: host 127.0.0.1 not found: Address family for
 hostname not supported
 ---snip---

 It is just weird.

Agreed... how about running route -nv before and after lo is borked?


Re: [arch-general] Can't Connect to localhost/127.0.0.1 until I'm connected to a network

2009-03-06 Thread Geir Erikstad
 Ok, well... if you shut off your network AFTERWARDS, does it block
 your connection attempts too? Does /etc/hosts have localhost in
 there?

 When I shutdown the connection it doesn't work, the loop interface stays the
 same all the way.

 lo when connected:
 ---snip---
 % ifconfig lo
 lo        Link encap:Local Loopback            inet addr:127.0.0.1
  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:23 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:23 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0          RX bytes:2167 (2.1 Kb)  TX
 bytes:2167 (2.1 Kb)
 ---snip---

 when disconnected:
 ---snip---
 % ifconfig lo
 lo        Link encap:Local Loopback            inet addr:127.0.0.1
  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:23 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:23 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0          RX bytes:2167 (2.1 Kb)  TX
 bytes:2167 (2.1 Kb)
 ---snip---

 When I try to run ncmpcpp, when I'm disconnected:
 ---snip---
  % ncmpcpp
 Cannot connect to mpd: host localhost not found: Temporary failure in name
 resolution
 % ncmpcpp
 Cannot connect to mpd: host 127.0.0.1 not found: Address family for
 hostname not supported
 ---snip---

 It is just weird.

 Thomas


Can you connect to ::1 when you are disconnected?

Maybe you are using ipv6 for some reason while disconnected.

-geirr


Re: [arch-general] Can't Connect to localhost/127.0.0.1 until I'm connected to a network

2009-03-06 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Thomas Bohn tho...@bohnomat.de wrote:
 ---snip---
  % ncmpcpp
 Cannot connect to mpd: host localhost not found: Temporary failure in name
 resolution
 % ncmpcpp
 Cannot connect to mpd: host 127.0.0.1 not found: Address family for
 hostname not supported
 ---snip---

This seems off to me... did you change anything in /etc/nsswitch.conf?
Look for the line:
hosts: files dns

Also, Geir may be on to something regarding ipv6


Re: [arch-general] Can't Connect to localhost/127.0.0.1 until I'm connected to a network

2009-03-06 Thread Thomas Bohn

On 2009-03-06 23:24 +0100, Geir Erikstad wrote:


Can you connect to ::1 when you are disconnected?


Yes, I can. With IPv6 it works. Maybe I should use that or deactivate 
IPv6.


Thomas


Re: [arch-general] Can't Connect to localhost/127.0.0.1 until I'm connected to a network

2009-03-06 Thread Geir Erikstad
2009/3/6 Thomas Bohn tho...@bohnomat.de:
 On 2009-03-06 23:24 +0100, Geir Erikstad wrote:

 Can you connect to ::1 when you are disconnected?

 Yes, I can. With IPv6 it works. Maybe I should use that or deactivate IPv6.

 Thomas


I would disable ipv6 for now.

Read this wikipage:

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IPv6_-_Disabling_the_Module

I guess adding:

::1 localhost.localdomain localhost

in /etc/hosts might solve it too.

Not sure why you are defaulting to ipv6 though...

-geirr