Re: [arch-general] AARG! kinit: cannot open dev(8,7) kernel panic

2009-05-16 Thread David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On or about Saturday 16 May 2009 at approximately 20:13:11 pyther composed:

>
> Try replacing the disk-by-uuid stuff with direct paths to the device nodes
> (ex. /dev/sda2, etc). If you can get this to work then start switching back
> to disk-by-uuid.
>
> ~pyther

Hmm,

I'll give it a go and report back. My fingers are getting sore from all 
the 
mount and chroot typing though ;-)

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Re: [arch-general] Bugs again

2009-05-16 Thread David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On or about Friday 15 May 2009 at approximately 05:15:15 Jon Kristian Nilsen 
composed:
> This discussion never seems to get old.
>

>
> Thirdly:
> Why are users encouraged to report to the ML and the forums beforehand? I
> don't see any practical reason in having several bit's and pieces of
> information spread around. A bugtracker should be used for that, it's
> possible to post comments in it, isn't it?
> Having one clear system for users to post bugs will help gain population
> and give encouragement, if a user have to go through several different
> organs for something like this, the majority of users will most likely not
> do it. - Sad to say, but it IS the truth.
>

>
> Sorry for spamming.
>
> -J
>

From my experience, the flow has always been two-tiered:

(1) If you know enough to know it is a bug -> report it to tracker

(2) If you don't know enough to know its a bug (newer user/unsure about the 
area of the system) -> post it to the list to confirm the bug or for further 
information that will allow you to confirm it, or rule it out.

With arch, things get a little unwieldy when we add the forum as "layer 
3" 
without a clear delineation of what information goes to the list and what 
goes to the forum. There may be some guideline for that somewhere, but I 
haven't run across it yet. (One can only read so many hundred wiki, forum, 
bug, and list posts in a given amount of time)

I have always understood IRC is simply for quick questions/answers so 
that 
doesn't cause a problem as another "layer 4."

I still believe the best practice for bug reports is the (1) (2) laid 
out 
above. It helps both weed out bugs that aren't really bugs to begin with, and 
it also helps better frame the bug issues for the ones that are bugs but that 
the reporter doesn't know enough about to feel comfortable reporting to begin 
with.

I don't know how the forum fits in here, but I do agree that the 
efficiency 
of the bug tracking/fixing process suffers if the devs have to try and pick 
information out of 3 different places potentially under 3 different 
titles/subjects.

As for spamming, this stuff is never spamming. These are the 
discussions that 
need to be held to provide the decision makers additional information and 
viewpoints to consider in defining the policies to put in place. Even if all 
my/your suggestions are ultimately tossed, they still had value in providing 
an option or alternative to be considered.

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Re: [arch-general] AARG! kinit: cannot open dev(8,7) kernel panic

2009-05-16 Thread pyther

On Sat, 16 May 2009 19:59:38 -0500, "David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E."
 wrote:
> Listmates,
> 
>   I am in a fist-fight with grub again most likely due to
/dev/disk/by-uuid
>   and
> I'm losing the battle.
> 
>   First, the situation. I'm moving and resizing partitions from an 80G
drive
>   to
> a 500G drive. No issues there. The partitions setup is:
> 
> /dev/sda1 WinXP
> /dev/sda2 Extended
> /dev/sda5 /home
> /dev/sda6 /
> /dev/sda7 swap
> /dev/sda8 /boot
> 
>   After moving and resizing the partitions windows boot fine and Arch
boots 
> until it gets to kinit and then throws a kernel panic. I have updated the

> disk/by-uuid labels in /boot/grub/menu.lst and in /etc/fstab, but still
the
> 
> kinit error.
> 
>   As far as my grub install goes, the system boot to the grub menu and it
is
> reading /boot/grub/menu.lst because I can boot XP from the grub menu, but
> not 
> boot Arch.
> 
>   Gurus... What to check? Throw a brother a bone Where else is the
disk 
> by-uuid stuff hidden?

Try replacing the disk-by-uuid stuff with direct paths to the device nodes
(ex. /dev/sda2, etc). If you can get this to work then start switching back
to disk-by-uuid.

~pyther


[arch-general] AARG! kinit: cannot open dev(8,7) kernel panic

2009-05-16 Thread David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Listmates,

I am in a fist-fight with grub again most likely due to 
/dev/disk/by-uuid and 
I'm losing the battle.

First, the situation. I'm moving and resizing partitions from an 80G 
drive to 
a 500G drive. No issues there. The partitions setup is:

/dev/sda1   WinXP
/dev/sda2   Extended
/dev/sda5   /home
/dev/sda6   /
/dev/sda7   swap
/dev/sda8   /boot

After moving and resizing the partitions windows boot fine and Arch 
boots 
until it gets to kinit and then throws a kernel panic. I have updated the 
disk/by-uuid labels in /boot/grub/menu.lst and in /etc/fstab, but still the 
kinit error.

As far as my grub install goes, the system boot to the grub menu and it 
is 
reading /boot/grub/menu.lst because I can boot XP from the grub menu, but not 
boot Arch.

Gurus... What to check? Throw a brother a bone Where else is the 
disk 
by-uuid stuff hidden?


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Re: [arch-general] Setting up print to postscript in openoffice 3

2009-05-16 Thread David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On or about Friday 15 May 2009 at approximately 23:42:07 Allan McRae composed:

>
> It would be good to add tips like these to the wiki.  They are likely to
> get lost if only posted to the mailing list.
>
> Allan

Done,

See:

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CUPS#Print_to_Postscript_--_A_CUPS-PDF_Virtual_Printer_Trick

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Re: [arch-general] gparted dependency failure `GLIBCXX_3.4.11' not found

2009-05-16 Thread David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On or about Saturday 16 May 2009 at approximately 09:38:18 Allan McRae 
composed:
> David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. wrote:
> > Listmates,
> >
> > Attempting to run gparted from the local drive (after installing all
> > listed optional dependencies of gparted) to resize a partition on a usb
> > drive disclosed a dependency failure:
> >
> > [09:33 supersff:/home/david/linux/partition-copy] # gparted
> > /usr/sbin/gpartedbin: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.11'
> > not found (required by /usr/sbin/gpartedbin)
> >
> > Hmm should this be reported as a bug or chocked up to stupidity on my
> > part?
>
> It sounds like the was built with gcc-4.4 and your system is not fully
> up-to-date.
>
> Allan

407M update running now, I'll report back, thanks Allan!

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Re: [arch-general] System Upgrade - networkmanager conflicts with libnetworkmanager

2009-05-16 Thread David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On or about Saturday 16 May 2009 at approximately 04:22:56 Biru Ionut 
composed:
> Grigorios Bouzakis wrote:
> > I dont know where you installed libnetworkmanager from, if it was in
> > extra and got replaced but i'd go with networkmanager
> > See the replaces & conflicts lines here:
> > http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/networkmanager/repos/extra-i686/PKG
> >BUILD?view=markup
>
> the previous version has split

Allan, Grigorios, Biru

Thanks! That's what I needed.


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Re: [arch-general] gparted dependency failure `GLIBCXX_3.4.11' not found

2009-05-16 Thread Allan McRae

David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. wrote:

Listmates,

	Attempting to run gparted from the local drive (after installing all listed 
optional dependencies of gparted) to resize a partition on a usb drive 
disclosed a dependency failure:


[09:33 supersff:/home/david/linux/partition-copy] # gparted
/usr/sbin/gpartedbin: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.11' not 
found (required by /usr/sbin/gpartedbin)


Hmm should this be reported as a bug or chocked up to stupidity on my 
part?
  


It sounds like the was built with gcc-4.4 and your system is not fully 
up-to-date.


Allan






[arch-general] gparted dependency failure `GLIBCXX_3.4.11' not found

2009-05-16 Thread David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Listmates,

Attempting to run gparted from the local drive (after installing all 
listed 
optional dependencies of gparted) to resize a partition on a usb drive 
disclosed a dependency failure:

[09:33 supersff:/home/david/linux/partition-copy] # gparted
/usr/sbin/gpartedbin: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.11' not 
found (required by /usr/sbin/gpartedbin)

Hmm should this be reported as a bug or chocked up to stupidity on my 
part?

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Re: [arch-general] Themes for Gnome

2009-05-16 Thread Baho Utot
On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 10:42 +0200, Emiel de Brouwer wrote:
> I can install it fine. You just have to drag the .tar.gz file to the
> appearance window (System -> Preferences -> Appearance) or click the install
> button and select the file.
> 
> --Emiel
> 
> 2009/5/14 Baho Utot 
> 
> > On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 15:15 +0300, Samed Beyribey wrote:
> > > Thu, 14 May 2009 07:32:16 + tarihinde
> > > S Andrews  şunu yazmıştınız:
> > >
> > > > Where can I find themes for gnome, I am looking for Graphite theme
> > > >
> > > http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Graphite?content=104061 is
> > > that one you are looking for?
> >
> > Not exactly,
> >
> > I downloaded it but I can not install it?
> >
> >

Draging into the Theme install window worked 

Thanks



Re: [arch-general] System Upgrade - networkmanager conflicts with libnetworkmanager

2009-05-16 Thread Biru Ionut

Grigorios Bouzakis wrote:


I dont know where you installed libnetworkmanager from, if it was in
extra and got replaced but i'd go with networkmanager
See the replaces & conflicts lines here:
http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/networkmanager/repos/extra-i686/PKGBUILD?view=markup


the previous version has split

--
Ionut


Re: [arch-general] Themes for Gnome

2009-05-16 Thread Emiel de Brouwer
I can install it fine. You just have to drag the .tar.gz file to the
appearance window (System -> Preferences -> Appearance) or click the install
button and select the file.

--Emiel

2009/5/14 Baho Utot 

> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 15:15 +0300, Samed Beyribey wrote:
> > Thu, 14 May 2009 07:32:16 + tarihinde
> > S Andrews  şunu yazmıştınız:
> >
> > > Where can I find themes for gnome, I am looking for Graphite theme
> > >
> > http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Graphite?content=104061 is
> > that one you are looking for?
>
> Not exactly,
>
> I downloaded it but I can not install it?
>
>


Re: [arch-general] problem while bridging network

2009-05-16 Thread ludovic coues
For sure.
There are people on the eve's forum talking about worst fps with vista
than older PC with XP.
I just need to found an XP...

There is no more thing like that in shop.