[arch-general] Error starting vim after updates (maybe there for a while)

2009-07-25 Thread David C. Rankin
Listmates,

The latest menu error was received starting vim by clicking on an 
attachment in kmail:

Error detected while processing /usr/share/vim/vim72/menu.vim: 
line  155: 
E121: Undefined variable: paste#paste_cmd 
E15: Invalid expression: 'vnoremenu script Edit.PasteTab+gP^I' . 
paste#paste_cmd['v']

vim will go ahead and start after click ok to the error.

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[arch-general] [signoff] openvpn 2.1_rc19-2

2009-07-25 Thread Thomas Bächler

Tested on x86_64, please sign off. Fixes:

- Upstream URL was wrong:
http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/openvpn/trunk/PKGBUILD?r1=47204r2=47207

- Display of right configuration files on /etc/rc.d/openvpn stop:
http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/openvpn/trunk/openvpn.rc?r1=47204r2=47594

- Typo in the script that made it fail when one of the openvpn daemons 
wouldn't start.

http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/openvpn/trunk/openvpn.rc?r1=47594r2=47664diff_format=u

There is also another request here: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/15673
The user says that not all /etc/openvpn/*.conf should be started, but 
there should be a configuration file that says which ones to start. I am 
against this, as it adds redundancy and the starting can be avoided by 
renaming the file to something not ending on .conf. What do you think?




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Re: [arch-general] Error starting vim after updates (maybe there for a while)

2009-07-25 Thread Patrick Brisbin
this could probably be fixed the same way as the other vim problems

  sudo ln -s /usr/share/vim/vim72/ /usr/share/vim/vimcurrent

pat

On 07/25/09 at 01:27am, David C. Rankin wrote:
 Listmates,
 
   The latest menu error was received starting vim by clicking on an 
 attachment in kmail:
 
 Error detected while processing /usr/share/vim/vim72/menu.vim: 
 line  155: 
 E121: Undefined variable: paste#paste_cmd 
 E15: Invalid expression: 'vnoremenu script Edit.PasteTab+gP^I' . 
 paste#paste_cmd['v']
 
   vim will go ahead and start after click ok to the error.
 
 -- 
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 510 Ochiltree Street
 Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
 Telephone: (936) 715-9333
 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
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[arch-general] What happened to konq-plugins-4.2.95svn985376-1?

2009-07-25 Thread David C. Rankin
Listmates,

I have another newer package according to the last updates:

:: Starting full system upgrade...
warning: konq-plugins: local (4.2.95svn985376-1) is newer than kde-unstable 
(4.2.4-2)

kde-unstable is before testing in pacman.conf. I've looked and I can't 
find any package newer than 4.2.4-2 anywhere now. What happened to 
konq-plugins-4.2.95svn985376-1?

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[arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0

2009-07-25 Thread Baho Utot
I need pacman 2.98 or 3.0 and the dependencies, either the PKGBUILDS or
the binaries.

I need this for an older system (distro)

Is it still available?

Thanks



Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0

2009-07-25 Thread Thomas Bächler

Baho Utot schrieb:

I need pacman 2.98 or 3.0 and the dependencies, either the PKGBUILDS or
the binaries.

I need this for an older system (distro)

Is it still available?


ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/other/pacman/

PKGBUILDs are probably in our old CVS, but it seems the cvs-arch tree 
(which was where we had the current packages before we changed the 
repository layout) is not publicly available anymore.




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Re: [arch-general] What happened to konq-plugins-4.2.95svn985376-1?

2009-07-25 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am Samstag 25 Juli 2009 18:38:32 schrieb David C. Rankin:
 What happened to konq-plugins-4.2.95svn985376-1?

I removed it; use the one from the repo.

-- 

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Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0

2009-07-25 Thread Baho Utot
On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 19:13 +0200, Thomas Bächler wrote:
 Baho Utot schrieb:
  I need pacman 2.98 or 3.0 and the dependencies, either the PKGBUILDS or
  the binaries.
  
  I need this for an older system (distro)
  
  Is it still available?
 
 ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/other/pacman/
 
 PKGBUILDs are probably in our old CVS, but it seems the cvs-arch tree 
 (which was where we had the current packages before we changed the 
 repository layout) is not publicly available anymore.
 

That didn't work as I would need libtar which is missing :(



Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0

2009-07-25 Thread Daenyth Blank
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 13:03, Baho Utotbaho-u...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
 I need pacman 2.98 or 3.0 and the dependencies, either the PKGBUILDS or
 the binaries.

 I need this for an older system (distro)

 Is it still available?

 Thanks



Out of curiosity, why do you need the old copies?


Re: [arch-general] What happened to konq-plugins-4.2.95svn985376-1?

2009-07-25 Thread David C. Rankin
On Saturday 25 July 2009 12:17:15 pm Pierre Schmitz wrote:
 Am Samstag 25 Juli 2009 18:38:32 schrieb David C. Rankin:
  What happened to konq-plugins-4.2.95svn985376-1?
 
 I removed it; use the one from the repo.
 
 

Whew -- At least I know it wasn't me ;-)  Thanks

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Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0

2009-07-25 Thread Daniel J Griffiths

Daenyth Blank wrote:

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 13:03, Baho Utotbaho-u...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
  

I need pacman 2.98 or 3.0 and the dependencies, either the PKGBUILDS or
the binaries.

I need this for an older system (distro)

Is it still available?

Thanks





Out of curiosity, why do you need the old copies?

  
One of our users is running a server called the Arch Rollback Machine. 
Do a search for it on the forums. You may well be able to get what 
you're looking for through his server.


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[arch-general] Where can I find the boot log to find out what failed on boot?

2009-07-25 Thread David C. Rankin
Listmates,

Seems like a simple question, but I've searched /var/log and can't find 
a file that contains the boot history showing all the fail messages during 
boot. For some reason after the latest update, my i686 box showed a half dozen 
or so fail messages. I need to find the log of what died.

The upside to this? This was my i686 box that would no longer start kde 
after the next-previous set of updates. Now kde4 starts fine again.

Whatever failed can't be that critical because the box is functioning 
fine, but I still want to find out what failed. If the file is in /var/log, 
then I just flat missed it. I thought it would be daemons.log, but I found no 
fail messages.


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[arch-general] archboot stills depends of portmap

2009-07-25 Thread mathieu p
Maybe someone should fix that, since portmap has been replaced by rpcbind
some time ago (and portmap can no longer be found on any repo).
(archboot is in [extra] )


Re: [arch-general] Where can I find the boot log to find out what failed on boot?

2009-07-25 Thread Dan McGee
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 4:49 PM, David C.
Rankindrankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:
 Listmates,

        Seems like a simple question, but I've searched /var/log and can't 
 find a file that contains the boot history showing all the fail messages 
 during boot. For some reason after the latest update, my i686 box showed a 
 half dozen or so fail messages. I need to find the log of what died.

        The upside to this? This was my i686 box that would no longer start 
 kde after the next-previous set of updates. Now kde4 starts fine again.

        Whatever failed can't be that critical because the box is functioning 
 fine, but I still want to find out what failed. If the file is in /var/log, 
 then I just flat missed it. I thought it would be daemons.log, but I found no 
 fail messages.

This might not actually be logged anywhere now that I think about it.
To devs- am I wrong, or maybe we should add some syslog foo in here so
this stuff is more easily traceable?

I personally disable the VC on tty1 in inittab on all machines so that
no console overwrites the boot screen.

-Dan


Re: [arch-general] Where can I find the boot log to find out what failed on boot?

2009-07-25 Thread Randy Morris
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 05:29:31PM -0500, Dan McGee wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 4:49 PM, David C.
 Rankindrankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:
  Listmates,
 
         Seems like a simple question, but I've searched /var/log and
  can't find a file that contains the boot history showing all the
  fail messages during boot. For some reason after the latest
  update, my i686 box showed a half dozen or so fail messages. I
  need to find the log of what died.
 
         The upside to this? This was my i686 box that would no longer
  start kde after the next-previous set of updates. Now kde4 starts
  fine again.
 
         Whatever failed can't be that critical because the box is
  functioning fine, but I still want to find out what failed. If the
  file is in /var/log, then I just flat missed it. I thought it would
  be daemons.log, but I found no fail messages.
 
 This might not actually be logged anywhere now that I think about it.
 To devs- am I wrong, or maybe we should add some syslog foo in here so
 this stuff is more easily traceable?
 
 I personally disable the VC on tty1 in inittab on all machines so that
 no console overwrites the boot screen.
 
 -Dan

That's an interesting way to handle that Dan.  Personally if I'm
troubleshooting this, I add something like read KEY to the end of
/etc/rc.local so that the boot pauses for a keypress.  After I see what
I want, I just comment out or remove that line from /etc/rc.local.

Another way would be to remove the string escape that clears the screen
from /etc/issue, but IMHO that is quite ugly.


Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] readline-6.0.003-1

2009-07-25 Thread Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi
Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi wrote:
 ln -s ../../lib/libreadline.so /usr/lib/libreadline.so

 shared libs that are on /lib and also provides a static version in
 /usr/lib must have a symlink in /usr/lib/ that points to shared lib in /lib

   
I just checked if all others packages in repos that install shared-lib
in /lib and static-lib in /usr/lib have this problem, the result is OK,
all packages respect this rule ;)

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Re: [arch-general] Where can I find the boot log to find out what failed on boot?

2009-07-25 Thread Dwight Schauer
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Randy Morrisrandy.mor...@archlinux.us wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 05:29:31PM -0500, Dan McGee wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 4:49 PM, David C.
 Rankindrankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:
  Listmates,
 
         Seems like a simple question, but I've searched /var/log and
  can't find a file that contains the boot history showing all the
  fail messages during boot. For some reason after the latest
  update, my i686 box showed a half dozen or so fail messages. I
  need to find the log of what died.
 
         The upside to this? This was my i686 box that would no longer
  start kde after the next-previous set of updates. Now kde4 starts
  fine again.
 
         Whatever failed can't be that critical because the box is
  functioning fine, but I still want to find out what failed. If the
  file is in /var/log, then I just flat missed it. I thought it would
  be daemons.log, but I found no fail messages.

 This might not actually be logged anywhere now that I think about it.
 To devs- am I wrong, or maybe we should add some syslog foo in here so
 this stuff is more easily traceable?

 I personally disable the VC on tty1 in inittab on all machines so that
 no console overwrites the boot screen.

 -Dan

 That's an interesting way to handle that Dan.  Personally if I'm
 troubleshooting this, I add something like read KEY to the end of
 /etc/rc.local so that the boot pauses for a keypress.  After I see what
 I want, I just comment out or remove that line from /etc/rc.local.

 Another way would be to remove the string escape that clears the screen
 from /etc/issue, but IMHO that is quite ugly.


I disable vc/1 on all my machines in inittab as well, and have been
doing for over a year now on all my arch installs. It is one of the
first things I do after installing, and I just leave it disabled.


Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0

2009-07-25 Thread Baho Utot
On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 14:48 -0400, Daenyth Blank wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 13:03, Baho Utotbaho-u...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
  I need pacman 2.98 or 3.0 and the dependencies, either the PKGBUILDS or
  the binaries.
 
  I need this for an older system (distro)
 
  Is it still available?
 
  Thanks
 
 
 
 Out of curiosity, why do you need the old copies?

The current version just have too many dependencies to be able to use
them.  The older one only needs libtar,fakeroot and libdownload.  THe
new one requires somewhere around 10.



Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0

2009-07-25 Thread Thomas Bächler

Baho Utot schrieb:

The current version just have too many dependencies to be able to use
them.  The older one only needs libtar,fakeroot and libdownload.  THe
new one requires somewhere around 10.


But those pacman versions suck, seriously, they have so many annoying 
bugs that have been fixed in 3.1 and 3.2. Especially the 2.X series is 
not very convenient to use.




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Re: [arch-general] Pacman version 2.98 or pacman 3.0

2009-07-25 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Baho Utotbaho-u...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
 On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 14:48 -0400, Daenyth Blank wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 13:03, Baho Utotbaho-u...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
  I need pacman 2.98 or 3.0 and the dependencies, either the PKGBUILDS or
  the binaries.
 
  I need this for an older system (distro)
 
  Is it still available?
 
  Thanks
 
 

 Out of curiosity, why do you need the old copies?

 The current version just have too many dependencies to be able to use
 them.  The older one only needs libtar,fakeroot and libdownload.  THe
 new one requires somewhere around 10.

pacman itself only requires libarchive and libdownload/libfetch...
makepkg and friends bring in the other deps.

Also note that the old pacman did not use libdownload - that was added
in 3.0 I believe

Still... the old versions are just bad compared to the current pacman


Re: [arch-general] Where can I find the boot log to find out what failed on boot?

2009-07-25 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Dan McGeedpmc...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 4:49 PM, David C.
 Rankindrankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:
 Listmates,

        Seems like a simple question, but I've searched /var/log and can't 
 find a file that contains the boot history showing all the fail messages 
 during boot. For some reason after the latest update, my i686 box showed a 
 half dozen or so fail messages. I need to find the log of what died.

        The upside to this? This was my i686 box that would no longer start 
 kde after the next-previous set of updates. Now kde4 starts fine again.

        Whatever failed can't be that critical because the box is functioning 
 fine, but I still want to find out what failed. If the file is in /var/log, 
 then I just flat missed it. I thought it would be daemons.log, but I found 
 no fail messages.

 This might not actually be logged anywhere now that I think about it.
 To devs- am I wrong, or maybe we should add some syslog foo in here so
 this stuff is more easily traceable?

 I personally disable the VC on tty1 in inittab on all machines so that
 no console overwrites the boot screen.

Nope, not logged anywhere. Those messages, however, are arch messages.
The daemon itself that fails should write its output somewhere.

If you just want a list of what isn't running, you can always look
in... hmm whatever the dir is... /var/run/daemons I think, and compare
that to rc.conf.

syslogging this is acceptable if someone wants to supply a patch


Re: [arch-general] archboot stills depends of portmap

2009-07-25 Thread Allan McRae

mathieu p wrote:

Maybe someone should fix that, since portmap has been replaced by rpcbind
some time ago (and portmap can no longer be found on any repo).
(archboot is in [extra] )
  


This is a known issue:
http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/15420

Allan






Re: [arch-general] No updates in past week or so - my update problem or just no updates?

2009-07-25 Thread David C. Rankin
On Thursday 23 July 2009 10:26:14 am David Rosenstrauch wrote:
 David Rosenstrauch wrote:
  David C. Rankin wrote:
  Listmates,
 
  I have several boxes running arch. In the past week or so, I haven't
  had any updates. Is it my system not updating or have there been
  relatively few updates?
  
  
  The RIT mirror is down.  Switch to a new one - e.g.:
  
  Server = http://www.schlunix.org/archlinux/$repo/os/x86_64
  
  HTH,
  
  DR
 
 Actually, let me rephrase that:  it's not down.  It just hadn't been 
 updating recently.  According to the mirrorcheck page, though, it looks 
 like it might be back now.
 
 http://users.archlinux.de/~gerbra/mirrorcheck.html
 
 DR
 
 

Thanks DR, all,

I finally got a full update for both x86_64 and x86. Just felt strange 
having pacman -Syu come back with Up to date so many times in a row. After 
the updates, things are running good (minus the usual rats to kill)

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[arch-general] What? - NO 'p' in dmraid-1.0.0.rc15-8 anymore?

2009-07-25 Thread David C. Rankin
Listmates,

After going through the testing process with dmraid-1.0.0.rc15 where 
the biggest change for users was the addition of the 'p' in the 
/dev/mapper/raidname_device_partx naming convention, the last update warns that 
you must now *remove* the 'p' from fstab, etc..

What's up? Will we have to add the 'p' again next week?

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Re: [arch-general] PCI modems

2009-07-25 Thread David C. Rankin
On Thursday 23 July 2009 09:00:20 am Sergey Manucharian wrote:
 On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:50:19 +0200
 RedShift redsh...@pandora.be wrote:
  ... 
  I don't think using second hand modems is a good idea, I really need
  something I can buy in a store...
  ...
 
 http://www.wiredparadise.net/46xvp.html
 Amazing - the price is $30, but the shipping to Europe is $65...
 
 Cheers,
 Sergey
 
 

Yes, they get you on shipping.. $12.34 for shipping in the states for 
UPS ground for a few ounces? That's more than the last couple of USR's I bought 
of ebay.

As for 'new' versus 'used', I've had great luck with modems off ebay. 
Modems either work or they don't, not much to wear out. (lightning excluded)

Once you get your modem, I suspect you will be using hylafax as your 
fax receiving package. When you do, also look into Avantfax web front-end to 
hylafax and tesseract for OCR of incoming faxes. Both work excellent. I have 
had the combination running on an old AMD K6-2 450 as my office fax server for 
a year or so and love it. I have a quick setup page for the combination 
(somewhat openSuSE related) at:

http://www.3111skyline.com/linux/avantfax.php


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Re: [arch-general] Error starting vim after updates (maybe there for a while)

2009-07-25 Thread David C. Rankin
On Saturday 25 July 2009 10:48:05 am Patrick Brisbin wrote:
 this could probably be fixed the same way as the other vim problems
 
   sudo ln -s /usr/share/vim/vim72/ /usr/share/vim/vimcurrent
 
 pat
 
 On 07/25/09 at 01:27am, David C. Rankin wrote:
  Listmates,
  
  The latest menu error was received starting vim by clicking on an 
  attachment in kmail:
  
  Error detected while processing /usr/share/vim/vim72/menu.vim: 
  line  155: 
  E121: Undefined variable: paste#paste_cmd 
  E15: Invalid expression: 'vnoremenu script Edit.PasteTab+gP^I' . 
  paste#paste_cmd['v']
  
  vim will go ahead and start after click ok to the error.
  
 
 

Thanks Patrick, that helped.

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Re: [arch-general] Where can I find the boot log to find out what failed on boot?

2009-07-25 Thread David C. Rankin
On Saturday 25 July 2009 08:33:01 pm Aaron Griffin wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Dan McGeedpmc...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 4:49 PM, David C.
  Rankindrankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:
  Listmates,
 
 Seems like a simple question, but I've searched /var/log and can't 
  find a file that contains the boot history showing all the fail messages 
  during boot. For some reason after the latest update, my i686 box showed a 
  half dozen or so fail messages. I need to find the log of what died.
 
 The upside to this? This was my i686 box that would no longer start 
  kde after the next-previous set of updates. Now kde4 starts fine again.
 
 Whatever failed can't be that critical because the box is 
  functioning fine, but I still want to find out what failed. If the file is 
  in /var/log, then I just flat missed it. I thought it would be 
  daemons.log, but I found no fail messages.
 
  This might not actually be logged anywhere now that I think about it.
  To devs- am I wrong, or maybe we should add some syslog foo in here so
  this stuff is more easily traceable?
 
  I personally disable the VC on tty1 in inittab on all machines so that
  no console overwrites the boot screen.
 
 Nope, not logged anywhere. Those messages, however, are arch messages.
 The daemon itself that fails should write its output somewhere.
 
 If you just want a list of what isn't running, you can always look
 in... hmm whatever the dir is... /var/run/daemons I think, and compare
 that to rc.conf.
 
 syslogging this is acceptable if someone wants to supply a patch
 

Thanks all,

I found it. For some reason kdm was crapping out. Really strange. Weeks 
ago, I learned that kdm doesn't belong in the DAEMONS LINE and moved it to 
inittab. Then for some reason something changed with the 7/22 updates that 
caused X to respawn too fast. After the last update, the failed messages were 
from kdm.

After working on it a bit more, I finally arrived at:

x:5:respawn:/opt/kde/bin/kdm -nodaemon

and all seems to be working well now. I need to use kdm for kde3 so I 
maintain my kdemod3 login capability from the greeter. So far so good with this 
setup. Anybody else have a better way?


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Re: [arch-general] How do I re-create a DVD from the backup created by vobcopy? [SOLVED]

2009-07-25 Thread David C. Rankin
On Saturday 25 July 2009 08:50:53 pm David C. Rankin wrote:
 Listmates,
 
SNIP

UUGH!

QUOTE

The BUP file is a backup of the IFO file on a DVD, which contains the 
information about the organization of tracks, menus, chapters, subtitles on the 
disc. 

/QUOTE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BUP



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