Re: [arch-general] Add "phonon-xine" to KDE deps?
Shridhar Daithankar wrote: On Tuesday 11 August 2009 11:56:13 Manne Merak wrote: Edgar Kalkowski wrote: Am oder ungefähr am Montag, 10. August 2009, um 20:19:24 schrieb Sven- Hendrik Haase: Hey, I've found that I hardly get any sound at all in KDE without the phonon-xine package installed since KDE 4.3. I wondered if this is a general thing or if it occurred to me just because my installation is rather old. If it is generally needed, why not make it a dependency? Or should I not require it at all and it is a misconfiguration on my side? Second that, had to install xine backend for sound in Amarok. Thirded :) I am still missing notification sounds from kopete though. And now I don't have any default device in system settings -> multimedia -> audio output -> * Did you all install the needed gstreamer plugins for the files you wanted to play? Allan
Re: [arch-general] Add "phonon-xine" to KDE deps?
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 11:56:13 Manne Merak wrote: > Edgar Kalkowski wrote: > > Am oder ungefähr am Montag, 10. August 2009, um 20:19:24 schrieb Sven- Hendrik Haase: > >> Hey, > >> > >> I've found that I hardly get any sound at all in KDE without the > >> phonon-xine package installed since KDE 4.3. I wondered if this is a > >> general thing or if it occurred to me just because my installation is > >> rather old. If it is generally needed, why not make it a dependency? Or > >> should I not require it at all and it is a misconfiguration on my side? > > Second that, had to install xine backend for sound in Amarok. Thirded :) I am still missing notification sounds from kopete though. And now I don't have any default device in system settings -> multimedia -> audio output -> * -- Shridhar
Re: [arch-general] Add "phonon-xine" to KDE deps?
Edgar Kalkowski wrote: AFAIK there are several issues with KDE’s default phonon gstreamer-backend. For example I had no sound in Amarok until I switched to the xine backend. Perhaps this could be mentioned in an .install message or something? Edgar Am oder ungefähr am Montag, 10. August 2009, um 20:19:24 schrieb Sven-Hendrik Haase: Hey, I've found that I hardly get any sound at all in KDE without the phonon-xine package installed since KDE 4.3. I wondered if this is a general thing or if it occurred to me just because my installation is rather old. If it is generally needed, why not make it a dependency? Or should I not require it at all and it is a misconfiguration on my side? Insight appreciated :) -- Sven-Hendrik Second that, had to install xine backend for sound in Amarok. Manne
[arch-general] X logging me out.
Hi all. After a recent system update (5 days ago) I find that I'm getting automatically logged out of X anywhere between 5-10 minutes into a session after a boot. I can relogin and then remain logged in. Any ideas whats up? I don't have any special X configuration - none that I'm aware of.. No xorg.conf, etc. System is a Lenovo X61 with Intel graphics. Thanks.
[arch-general] system-tools-backends
I was told that there was some talk some time ago about problems with system-tools-backends on one of the lists, but I wasn't able to find it. I'm looking to try and get those working fully/properly (cause the perl backend's pretty easy to understand...don't ask). I was wondering if people who use gnome-system-tools (or anything else that uses system-tools-backends / liboobs) could let me know what problems they've been facing with it. Note that there's been a recent update to it, so the whole "Nothing shows up" problem should no longer be there. Thanks, MAQ.
Re: [arch-general] ABI compliance checker
Roman Kyrylych wrote: > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 01:16, Gerardo Exequiel > Pozzi wrote: > >> Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: >> >>> Colleagues, I'm software engineer from Institute for System >>> Programing of Russian Academy of Sciences and we are developing a free >>> lightweight tool for checking backward/forward binary compatibility of >>> shared C/C++ libraries in OS Linux. It checks interface signatures and >>> data type definitions in two library versions (headers and shared >>> objects) and searches ABI changes that may lead to incompatibility. >>> We have released 1.1 version of this tool and we'd like you to consider >>> its usefulness for your project. >>> The wiki-page with the latest release of binary compatibility checker is >>> http://ispras.linux-foundation.org/index.php/ABI_compliance_checker >>> >> This sound really very good! >> At first when I read your post, I thought it was possible to verify the >> compatibility without source, ie directly between the binaries, but I >> see that this is not possible. This only do the check based on the >> source plus some xml library descriptors. >> > > The requirement of special XML files limits its usage IMHO. > Do you have any descriptors already available for some libraries? > > No, I played with the program after reading the documentation and do not serve to me what I wanted: check binary compatible with the information that can be drawn from the ELF and only that. I think that as said the documentation is more focused for developers (specially for lib devs), not for packagers ;) -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D
Re: [arch-general] C-> and C<- does not work in urxvt in tabbed?mode - archlinux specific
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 5:15 PM, clemens fischer wrote: > On Mon-2009/08/10-19:58 Daenyth Blank wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:24, Aaron Griffin wrote: >> >>> If you like these, you can stick them in ~/.inputrc for your user >>> account. It works for any app using readline. >> >> I added those to my ~/.inputrc, but it's still not working. Is there >> anything I have to do aside from opening a new terminal? > > Of course you have to find out which keys to bind in the first place, > and if they are rebound some place else. > > Do "cat" and type the keys you want, they should display as > "funny" strings. "^[" is an escape, readline wants "\e" or "\M" or > "Meta" for that. "man 3 readline". C-v also works in bash to echo the exact keypress. So C-v,C-left and C-v,C-right will give you the right keypresses
Re: [arch-general] C-> and C<- does not work in urxvt in tabbed?mode - archlinux specific
On Mon-2009/08/10-19:58 Daenyth Blank wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:24, Aaron Griffin wrote: > >> If you like these, you can stick them in ~/.inputrc for your user >> account. It works for any app using readline. > > I added those to my ~/.inputrc, but it's still not working. Is there > anything I have to do aside from opening a new terminal? Of course you have to find out which keys to bind in the first place, and if they are rebound some place else. Do "cat" and type the keys you want, they should display as "funny" strings. "^[" is an escape, readline wants "\e" or "\M" or "Meta" for that. "man 3 readline". clemens
[arch-general] kscreensaver + electricsheep
Hi, I have used electricsheep with kscreensaver for some time now but recently (after upgrade to 4.3) I changed to a different one for a change and wanted to go back to electricsheep today. But I see that it is missing in systemsettings. I checked and the file /usr/share/kde4/services/ScreenSavers/electricsheep.desktop is in place as installed from the electricsheep package. Has something changed in kscreensaver in 4.3 and thus perhaps the .desktop file is outdated? Or am I missing something else? Edgar signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [arch-general] C-> and C<- does not work in urxvt in tabbed mode - archlinux specific
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:37 PM, wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 02:32:40PM -0400, Daenyth Blank wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 14:16, Aaron Griffin wrote: >> > So I have a suspicion that my guess was wrong. You aren't using vi >> > mode in bash, are you? >> > >> >> Nope > In zsh , I have this in ~/.zshrc : > bindkey "\e[1;5C" forward-word > bindkey "\e[1;5D" backward-word > > Isn't there a bash equivalent ? Yeah, the equivalent is the inputrc stuff that was in a previous reply
Re: [arch-general] C-> and C<- does not work in urxvt in tabbed mode - archlinux specific
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 02:32:40PM -0400, Daenyth Blank wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 14:16, Aaron Griffin wrote: > > So I have a suspicion that my guess was wrong. You aren't using vi > > mode in bash, are you? > > > > Nope In zsh , I have this in ~/.zshrc : bindkey "\e[1;5C" forward-word bindkey "\e[1;5D" backward-word Isn't there a bash equivalent ?
Re: [arch-general] ABI compliance checker
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 01:16, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi wrote: > Andrey Ponomarenko wrote: >> Colleagues, I'm software engineer from Institute for System >> Programing of Russian Academy of Sciences and we are developing a free >> lightweight tool for checking backward/forward binary compatibility of >> shared C/C++ libraries in OS Linux. It checks interface signatures and >> data type definitions in two library versions (headers and shared >> objects) and searches ABI changes that may lead to incompatibility. >> We have released 1.1 version of this tool and we'd like you to consider >> its usefulness for your project. >> The wiki-page with the latest release of binary compatibility checker is >> http://ispras.linux-foundation.org/index.php/ABI_compliance_checker > > This sound really very good! > At first when I read your post, I thought it was possible to verify the > compatibility without source, ie directly between the binaries, but I > see that this is not possible. This only do the check based on the > source plus some xml library descriptors. The requirement of special XML files limits its usage IMHO. Do you have any descriptors already available for some libraries? -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] Arch minimum kernel version (udev) and SliceHost
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Pierre Chapuis wrote: > Le Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:26:17 -0500, > Dan McGee a écrit : > >> The kernel is not an Arch package at all, it is managed externally by Slice. >> >> If you send them a support request requesting a new kernel, they are >> happy to oblige, remembering that they will need to reboot your slice >> for it to be rolled out. > > OK, I'll do that then. Thanks for the information. Eeek. Check the man page for signalfd for sample code: agrif...@snarf:~$ man signalfd agrif...@snarf:~$ vim signalfd_demo.c agrif...@snarf:~$ gcc signalfd_demo.c -o signalfd_demo agrif...@snarf:~$ ./signalfd_demo signalfd: Function not implemented $ uname -a Linux snarf 2.6.24-24-xen #1 SMP Tue Jun 30 21:53:02 UTC 2009 x86_64 Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2212 HE AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux This is my slice with the latest kernel they support
Re: [arch-general] C-> and C<- does not work in urxvt in tabbed mode - archlinux specific
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 14:16, Aaron Griffin wrote: > So I have a suspicion that my guess was wrong. You aren't using vi > mode in bash, are you? > Nope
Re: [arch-general] Add "phonon-xine" to KDE deps?
AFAIK there are several issues with KDE’s default phonon gstreamer-backend. For example I had no sound in Amarok until I switched to the xine backend. Perhaps this could be mentioned in an .install message or something? Edgar Am oder ungefähr am Montag, 10. August 2009, um 20:19:24 schrieb Sven-Hendrik Haase: > Hey, > > I've found that I hardly get any sound at all in KDE without the > phonon-xine package installed since KDE 4.3. I wondered if this is a > general thing or if it occurred to me just because my installation is > rather old. If it is generally needed, why not make it a dependency? Or > should I not require it at all and it is a misconfiguration on my side? > > Insight appreciated :) > > -- Sven-Hendrik > signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [arch-general] Arch minimum kernel version (udev) and SliceHost
Le Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:26:17 -0500, Dan McGee a écrit : > The kernel is not an Arch package at all, it is managed externally by Slice. > > If you send them a support request requesting a new kernel, they are > happy to oblige, remembering that they will need to reboot your slice > for it to be rolled out. OK, I'll do that then. Thanks for the information.
[arch-general] Add "phonon-xine" to KDE deps?
Hey, I've found that I hardly get any sound at all in KDE without the phonon-xine package installed since KDE 4.3. I wondered if this is a general thing or if it occurred to me just because my installation is rather old. If it is generally needed, why not make it a dependency? Or should I not require it at all and it is a misconfiguration on my side? Insight appreciated :) -- Sven-Hendrik
Re: [arch-general] Arch minimum kernel version (udev) and SliceHost
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Dan McGee wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Pierre Chapuis wrote: >> Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:29:02 -0500, >> Dan McGee wrote on [arch-dev-public] : >> >>> Got a response from Slice: >>> The following kernels are available for your slice to upgrade. Please >>> let us know and we can take care of that for you. >>> 2.6.24 - 23.48 >>> 2.6.24 - 24.55 >>> >>> I believe these should be Ubuntu kernel versions; I'm seeing right now >>> what they actually include as it might include a fully working >>> signalfd(). >>> >>> If anyone wants to contact some other providers (especially if you are >>> already using their services) and post the response here, that would >>> be cool. >> >> Did someone with a Slice perform the update yet? It looks like I'm stuck >> with 2.6.18-xen when I -Syu. Do all SliceHost users have to email them to >> upgrade the kernel, and do these kernel versions really work? I wouldn't >> like to break my Slice too much... > > The kernel is not an Arch package at all, it is managed externally by Slice. > > If you send them a support request requesting a new kernel, they are > happy to oblige, remembering that they will need to reboot your slice > for it to be rolled out. I asked them and the general response was that they wouldn't be updating to a compatible kernel for a little while, and that it would be listed on: http://www.slicehost.com/blog/
Re: [arch-general] C-> and C<- does not work in urxvt in tabbed mode - archlinux specific
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Daenyth Blank wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:24, Aaron Griffin wrote: >> If you like these, you can stick them in ~/.inputrc for your user >> account. It works for any app using readline. >> > > I added those to my ~/.inputrc, but it's still not working. Is there > anything I have to do aside from opening a new terminal? Actually, I just noticed these are in our stock /etc/inputrc too "\e[5C": forward-word "\e[5D": backward-word "\e\e[C": forward-word "\e\e[D": backward-word "\e[1;5C": forward-word "\e[1;5D": backward-word So I have a suspicion that my guess was wrong. You aren't using vi mode in bash, are you?
Re: [arch-general] C-> and C<- does not work in urxvt in tabbed mode - archlinux specific
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:24, Aaron Griffin wrote: > If you like these, you can stick them in ~/.inputrc for your user > account. It works for any app using readline. > I added those to my ~/.inputrc, but it's still not working. Is there anything I have to do aside from opening a new terminal?
Re: [arch-general] Arch minimum kernel version (udev) and SliceHost
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Pierre Chapuis wrote: > Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:29:02 -0500, > Dan McGee wrote on [arch-dev-public] : > >> Got a response from Slice: >> The following kernels are available for your slice to upgrade. Please >> let us know and we can take care of that for you. >> 2.6.24 - 23.48 >> 2.6.24 - 24.55 >> >> I believe these should be Ubuntu kernel versions; I'm seeing right now >> what they actually include as it might include a fully working >> signalfd(). >> >> If anyone wants to contact some other providers (especially if you are >> already using their services) and post the response here, that would >> be cool. > > Did someone with a Slice perform the update yet? It looks like I'm stuck with > 2.6.18-xen when I -Syu. Do all SliceHost users have to email them to upgrade > the kernel, and do these kernel versions really work? I wouldn't like to > break my Slice too much... The kernel is not an Arch package at all, it is managed externally by Slice. If you send them a support request requesting a new kernel, they are happy to oblige, remembering that they will need to reboot your slice for it to be rolled out. -Dan
[arch-general] Arch minimum kernel version (udev) and SliceHost
Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:29:02 -0500, Dan McGee wrote on [arch-dev-public] : > Got a response from Slice: > The following kernels are available for your slice to upgrade. Please > let us know and we can take care of that for you. > 2.6.24 - 23.48 > 2.6.24 - 24.55 > > I believe these should be Ubuntu kernel versions; I'm seeing right now > what they actually include as it might include a fully working > signalfd(). > > If anyone wants to contact some other providers (especially if you are > already using their services) and post the response here, that would > be cool. Did someone with a Slice perform the update yet? It looks like I'm stuck with 2.6.18-xen when I -Syu. Do all SliceHost users have to email them to upgrade the kernel, and do these kernel versions really work? I wouldn't like to break my Slice too much... -- Pierre 'catwell' Chapuis
Re: [arch-general] C-> and C<- does not work in urxvt in tabbed mode - archlinux specific
2009/8/10 Angel Velásquez : > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Aaron Griffin > wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Daenyth Blank wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 02:23, Partha Chowdhury >>> wrote: you have to use alt+arrow keys instead of ctrl key. >>> >>> There's no way to set it to use ctrl? Hmm, how odd... It works on >>> ubuntu, but I can't figure out why. >> >> Might be related to inputrc. Can you compare /etc/inputrc on both >> platforms? What does C-v,C-left and C-v,C-right output in bash on each >> platform? >> > > Good catch Aaron, > > http://pastebin.com/f503c51a there is a default initrc from an ubuntu > server install # mappings for Ctrl-left-arrow and Ctrl-right-arrow for word moving "\e[1;5C": forward-word "\e[1;5D": backward-word "\e[5C": forward-word "\e[5D": backward-word "\e\e[C": forward-word "\e\e[D": backward-word So this has nothing to do with urxvt or any other terminal. Ubuntu adds these keypresses in globally in the system. If you like these, you can stick them in ~/.inputrc for your user account. It works for any app using readline.
Re: [arch-general] adding stb-admin GID to wiki
2009/8/10 Aaron Griffin : >> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:UID_/_GID_Database > > This is only for officially supported GIDs. What package uses stb-admin? Sorry for the thread hijacking (it seems to be my favorite sport, lately). I'm still waiting for some dev adopting pulseaudio, which currently is in [community], and should go to [extra] because of gnome ties. I wrote to a dev a few months ago and never got an answer, so if some other dev wants it, please take it. It often takes some time when it has to be upgraded, but new packages are seldom published. I'll also be available to help the new maintainer getting familiar with the package, if something isn't clear. Remember that, when it will go to [extra], one UID and three GIDs will need to be reserved: · UID/GID pulse: 130 · GID pulse-access: 131 · GID pulse-rt: 132 Thanks, Corrado
Re: [arch-general] C-> and C<- does not work in urxvt in tabbed mode - archlinux specific
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Daenyth Blank wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 02:23, Partha Chowdhury wrote: >>> you have to use alt+arrow keys instead of ctrl key. >>> >> >> There's no way to set it to use ctrl? Hmm, how odd... It works on >> ubuntu, but I can't figure out why. > > Might be related to inputrc. Can you compare /etc/inputrc on both > platforms? What does C-v,C-left and C-v,C-right output in bash on each > platform? > Good catch Aaron, http://pastebin.com/f503c51a there is a default initrc from an ubuntu server install Cheers -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909
Re: [arch-general] adding stb-admin GID to wiki
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Biru Ionut wrote: >> hi, >> can anyone with permission add stb-admin group with gid 112 on this? >> >> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:UID_/_GID_Database > > This is only for officially supported GIDs. What package uses stb-admin? > system-tools-backends. i was thinking that is the right place because i seen that is there vboxusers from virtualbox-ose which is in community too. -- Ionut
Re: [arch-general] adding stb-admin GID to wiki
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Biru Ionut wrote: > hi, > can anyone with permission add stb-admin group with gid 112 on this? > > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:UID_/_GID_Database This is only for officially supported GIDs. What package uses stb-admin?
Re: [arch-general] C-> and C<- does not work in urxvt in tabbed mode - archlinux specific
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Daenyth Blank wrote: > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 02:23, Partha Chowdhury wrote: >> you have to use alt+arrow keys instead of ctrl key. >> > > There's no way to set it to use ctrl? Hmm, how odd... It works on > ubuntu, but I can't figure out why. Might be related to inputrc. Can you compare /etc/inputrc on both platforms? What does C-v,C-left and C-v,C-right output in bash on each platform?
Re: [arch-general] C-> and C<- does not work in urxvt in tabbed mode - archlinux specific
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 02:23, Partha Chowdhury wrote: > you have to use alt+arrow keys instead of ctrl key. > There's no way to set it to use ctrl? Hmm, how odd... It works on ubuntu, but I can't figure out why.
Re: [arch-general] Regression in PC Beep when updating to 2.6.30
On Tue-2009/07/28-09:37 Roman Kyrylych wrote: > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 04:15, Flavio Costa wrote: > >> Muting the "PC Beep" in "alsamixer" mutes the beep, but the internel >> speaker doesn't come back to life > > I think that is because of CONFIG_SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP=y If it is really > important to you - try rebuilding your kernel with the option turned > off. This can't be the end of the story! There must be, or should be a way to enable the PC-speaker. I see that other distributions turn of "CONFIG_SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP" in .config, and IMO arch-linux should do the same. I do rely heavily on various sounds to indicate mail arrival, completion of some task etc. Meanwhile Takashi Iwai wrote in [1]: To avoid someone misunderstanding: the beep routed through HD-audio can also go to the built-in speaker. It's just mixed up with the normal audio output, and the volume is controlled via ALSA mixer volume element. But, once after it's hooked up to the codec, the beep can't be output separately to the speaker. It's always with other audio signal to the same output target. Or, on some systems (mostly laptops), the beep is hooked up to the codec automatically no matter whether you set CONFIG_SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP once when the codec chip is initialized. So, the behavior depends pretty much on the hardware implementation. So there must be a way to configure HDA to route beeps to the speaker, but how is this done? I remember HDA being able to wire specific sound sources to specific jacks. If you employ The Search Engine[2] you'll see that there must be even another way using some asound.conf setting, but again, I cannot find a definitive guide. [1] http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13651> [2] http://www.google.com/search?q=etc%2fasound.conf> clemens
Re: [arch-general] adding stb-admin GID to wiki
Lucas Salies Brum wrote: System Tools Backends appears blank for me. How i apply this patch http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/15633 ? Thanks --- Lucas Saliés Brum http://sistematico.org lsbrum @ irc.freenode.org 2009/8/10 Biru Ionut hi, can anyone with permission add stb-admin group with gid 112 on this? http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:UID_/_GID_Database -- Ionut i've upload now a version that fix that bug and other two bug as well. if you see that is not fix please reopen. -- Ionut
Re: [arch-general] adding stb-admin GID to wiki
System Tools Backends appears blank for me. How i apply this patch http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/15633 ? Thanks --- Lucas Saliés Brum http://sistematico.org lsbrum @ irc.freenode.org 2009/8/10 Biru Ionut > hi, > can anyone with permission add stb-admin group with gid 112 on this? > > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:UID_/_GID_Database > > -- > Ionut >
[arch-general] adding stb-admin GID to wiki
hi, can anyone with permission add stb-admin group with gid 112 on this? http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:UID_/_GID_Database -- Ionut
Re: [arch-general] Weird png corruption issue from Gwenview using "crop" -> "Save As" -> to a smb share
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 11:30, David C. Rankin wrote: > I tried saving the file with gwenview to my local disk and also saving it > to the smb share. Both using the "File" -> "Save As" after a crop. When I save > to the smb share, the corrupt image is about 250 bytes bigger than the good > file: Are you sure there is no LF -> CR+LF translation in this copy process? -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
