Re: [arch-general] [*] Re: LaTeX problems ?
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 03:57:26PM +0200, Jan Spakula wrote: > Excerpts from Christian Himpel's message of Mo Aug 31 15:32:48 +0200 2009: > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 15:22, Jan Spakula wrote: > > > Excerpts from Piyush P Kurur's message of Mo Aug 31 14:48:03 +0200 2009: > > > It's possibly the issue that's come up on the forums: > > > if you get something like: > > > --- > > > This is TeX, Version > > > Fatal format file error; I'm stymied > > > --- > > > then you need to run 'updmap --all' (as the user you get this error with). > > > Alternatively, you can delete the user's local texlive generated formats > > > 'rm > > > ~/.texlive/texmf-var/web2c/*.fmt' (then the system-wide generated formats > > > will be used, and they do get regenerated automatically on upgrade). > > > > i think it's 'fmtutil --all' instead of 'updmap --all'. > > you could also run 'fmtutil-sys --all' as root to recreate the > > system-wide format files. > > Eh, of course it's fmtutil. Sorry. > > However the point is that 'fmtutil-sys --all' *does* get run automatically on > texlive upgrade, but if the user has generated the formats themselves at some > point, these formats are preferred by texlive regardless of system changes. > So the user need to regenerate or delete the local format files. > ~ A big thank you. the fmtutil-sys --all did the trick as I had no local packages. Somehow this is not run with the texlive update for me. Regards ppk
Re: [arch-general] LaTeX problems ?
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:39:38PM +0200, Firmicus wrote: > Jan Spakula a écrit : > > Excerpts from Piyush P Kurur's message of Mo Aug 31 14:48:03 +0200 2009: > > > >> complaint was that they are not in the correct format. So I guess > >> the following needs to be done. > >> > >> 1) Add libpoppler as a dependency to latex > >> > > > > you are right about this. > > > yeap, my bad. I'll fix this. sorry. > note that libpoppler should be a dep of "texlive-bin", not "latex". Thanks. Are you the maintainer of this package ? Should I file a bug report ? Best Regards ppk
Re: [arch-general] LaTeX problems ?
Jan Spakula a écrit : > Excerpts from Piyush P Kurur's message of Mo Aug 31 14:48:03 +0200 2009: > >> complaint was that they are not in the correct format. So I guess >> the following needs to be done. >> >> 1) Add libpoppler as a dependency to latex >> > > you are right about this. > yeap, my bad. I'll fix this. sorry. note that libpoppler should be a dep of "texlive-bin", not "latex".
Re: [arch-general] offlineimap
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Loui Chang wrote: > On Mon 31 Aug 2009 21:20 +0400, joz...@gmx.com wrote: >> On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Daenyth Blank wrote: >> >> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:08, wrote: >> > > @ Loui Chang >> > > What was wrong with my signature? :) Anyway thanks for suggestion. It's >> > > only >> > > 2 lines now :) >> > If your sig is longer than your actual message... >> >> Yeah, looks ugly. >> >> By the way, I tried first Andrea's suggestion and it works. >> $ ln -s /usr/bin/offlineimap ~/.kde4/Autostart/ >> >> Thank you Andrea! > > Yeah this list is for general discussion about Arch Linux, not for > general exchange of ascii art. > > And I thought Arch Linux was all about ascii art. What a delusion! .--. / _.-' .-. .-. .-. \ '-. '-' '-' '-' '--'
Re: [arch-general] offlineimap
On Mon 31 Aug 2009 21:20 +0400, joz...@gmx.com wrote: > On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Daenyth Blank wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:08, wrote: > > > @ Loui Chang > > > What was wrong with my signature? :) Anyway thanks for suggestion. It's > > > only > > > 2 lines now :) > > If your sig is longer than your actual message... > > Yeah, looks ugly. > > By the way, I tried first Andrea's suggestion and it works. > $ ln -s /usr/bin/offlineimap ~/.kde4/Autostart/ > > Thank you Andrea! Yeah this list is for general discussion about Arch Linux, not for general exchange of ascii art.
Re: [arch-general] offlineimap
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Daenyth Blank wrote: > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:08, wrote: > > @ Loui Chang > > What was wrong with my signature? :) Anyway thanks for suggestion. It's only > > 2 lines now :) > If your sig is longer than your actual message... Yeah, looks ugly. By the way, I tried first Andrea's suggestion and it works. $ ln -s /usr/bin/offlineimap ~/.kde4/Autostart/ Thank you Andrea! -- Best, Jozsef :)
Re: [arch-general] offlineimap
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:08, wrote: > @ Loui Chang > What was wrong with my signature? :) Anyway thanks for suggestion. It's only > 2 lines now :) If your sig is longer than your actual message...
Re: [arch-general] offlineimap
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Patrick Brisbin wrote: > On 08/31/09 at 11:42am, Andre Ramaciotti da Silva wrote: > > > Also, wouldn't it be better if offlineimap ran every once in a while > > instead of > > only when you start KDE? In this case, setting up cron would be better > > suited. > > i agree. > > offlineimap does have a builtin interval-resync functionality, however i > find it to be pretty buggy, so personally, i just go the cron route: > > */3 * * * * offlineimap -o -u Noninteractive.Quiet > > > (i even call my own script[1] to check if its already running first, but > the above way should work too). > > [1] http://pbrisbin.com:8080/bin/mailrun > > -- > patrick brisbin At the moment I'm using that built in interval-resync and it's works fine. I never try to use cron. This is my first time I'm using CLI email client. Anyway, thanks for reply. I'll try ln first or cron. I'll see. And will let you know how it works. Need to read some tutorials about cron first. @ Loui Chang What was wrong with my signature? :) Anyway thanks for suggestion. It's only 2 lines now :) -- Best, Jozsef :)
Re: [arch-general] offlineimap
On Mon 31 Aug 2009 18:22 +0400, joz...@gmx.com wrote: > I can't find out the way to start offlineimap automatically each time I > start KDE. I tryed with ./kde4/Autostart and shell script but it didn't > work. > Is there any other way to run in autoamtiaclly in KDE or I must to > always start it manually? > Thanks! > > > -- > ___ > | | / _| > | | ___ ___ ___| |_ > _ | |/ _ \_ / __|/ _ \ _| > | |__| | (_) / /\__ \ __/ | > \/ \___/___|___/\___|_| > > > ''' > (O O) > +oOO--(_)--+ > | Have a great day! | > +--oOO-+ > |__|__| > || || > ooO Ooo I'm sorry I don't have any help to offer you about kde4, but I would highly recommend that you do not post that signature in any mailing list ever again. Keep it down to four lines. Thank You. Have a great day!
Re: [arch-general] offlineimap
On 08/31/09 at 11:42am, Andre Ramaciotti da Silva wrote: > Also, wouldn't it be better if offlineimap ran every once in a while instead > of > only when you start KDE? In this case, setting up cron would be better suited. i agree. offlineimap does have a builtin interval-resync functionality, however i find it to be pretty buggy, so personally, i just go the cron route: */3 * * * * offlineimap -o -u Noninteractive.Quiet (i even call my own script[1] to check if its already running first, but the above way should work too). [1] http://pbrisbin.com:8080/bin/mailrun -- patrick brisbin
Re: [arch-general] offlineimap
At Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:30:50 +0200, Andrea Scarpino wrote: > > On 31/08/2009, joz...@gmx.com wrote: > > I can't find out the way to start offlineimap automatically each time I > > start KDE. I tryed with ./kde4/Autostart and shell script but it didn't > > work. > > Is there any other way to run in autoamtiaclly in KDE or I must to > > always start it manually? > Hi, > $ ln -s /usr/bin/offlineimap ~/.kde4/Autostart/ > doesn't work? > > -- > Andrea `bash` Scarpino > Arch Linux Developer Also, wouldn't it be better if offlineimap ran every once in a while instead of only when you start KDE? In this case, setting up cron would be better suited.
Re: [arch-general] offlineimap
On 31/08/2009, joz...@gmx.com wrote: > I can't find out the way to start offlineimap automatically each time I > start KDE. I tryed with ./kde4/Autostart and shell script but it didn't > work. > Is there any other way to run in autoamtiaclly in KDE or I must to > always start it manually? Hi, $ ln -s /usr/bin/offlineimap ~/.kde4/Autostart/ doesn't work? -- Andrea `bash` Scarpino Arch Linux Developer
Re: [arch-general] LaTeX problems ?
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 15:57, Jan Spakula wrote: > Excerpts from Christian Himpel's message of Mo Aug 31 15:32:48 +0200 2009: >> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 15:22, Jan Spakula wrote: >> > Excerpts from Piyush P Kurur's message of Mo Aug 31 14:48:03 +0200 2009: >> > It's possibly the issue that's come up on the forums: >> > if you get something like: >> > --- >> > This is TeX, Version >> > Fatal format file error; I'm stymied >> > --- >> > then you need to run 'updmap --all' (as the user you get this error with). >> > Alternatively, you can delete the user's local texlive generated formats >> > 'rm >> > ~/.texlive/texmf-var/web2c/*.fmt' (then the system-wide generated formats >> > will be used, and they do get regenerated automatically on upgrade). >> >> i think it's 'fmtutil --all' instead of 'updmap --all'. >> you could also run 'fmtutil-sys --all' as root to recreate the >> system-wide format files. > > Eh, of course it's fmtutil. Sorry. hey, no offense :) > However the point is that 'fmtutil-sys --all' *does* get run automatically on > texlive upgrade, but if the user has generated the formats themselves at some > point, these formats are preferred by texlive regardless of system changes. > So the user need to regenerate or delete the local format files. yeah, you're right.. i only remembered that in my case the install script aborted (due to malformed config file or whatever) during upgrade last time and i had to call fmtutil manually. but that was probably an issue specific to my configuration never mind :) peace, chressie
[arch-general] offlineimap
I can't find out the way to start offlineimap automatically each time I start KDE. I tryed with ./kde4/Autostart and shell script but it didn't work. Is there any other way to run in autoamtiaclly in KDE or I must to always start it manually? Thanks! -- ___ | | / _| | | ___ ___ ___| |_ _ | |/ _ \_ / __|/ _ \ _| | |__| | (_) / /\__ \ __/ | \/ \___/___|___/\___|_| ''' (O O) +oOO--(_)--+ | Have a great day! | +--oOO-+ |__|__| || || ooO Ooo
Re: [arch-general] LaTeX problems ?
Excerpts from Christian Himpel's message of Mo Aug 31 15:32:48 +0200 2009: > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 15:22, Jan Spakula wrote: > > Excerpts from Piyush P Kurur's message of Mo Aug 31 14:48:03 +0200 2009: > > It's possibly the issue that's come up on the forums: > > if you get something like: > > --- > > This is TeX, Version > > Fatal format file error; I'm stymied > > --- > > then you need to run 'updmap --all' (as the user you get this error with). > > Alternatively, you can delete the user's local texlive generated formats 'rm > > ~/.texlive/texmf-var/web2c/*.fmt' (then the system-wide generated formats > > will be used, and they do get regenerated automatically on upgrade). > > i think it's 'fmtutil --all' instead of 'updmap --all'. > you could also run 'fmtutil-sys --all' as root to recreate the > system-wide format files. Eh, of course it's fmtutil. Sorry. However the point is that 'fmtutil-sys --all' *does* get run automatically on texlive upgrade, but if the user has generated the formats themselves at some point, these formats are preferred by texlive regardless of system changes. So the user need to regenerate or delete the local format files. ~
Re: [arch-general] LaTeX problems ?
Excerpts from Christian Himpel's message of Mo Aug 31 15:32:48 +0200 2009: > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 15:22, Jan Spakula wrote: > > Excerpts from Piyush P Kurur's message of Mo Aug 31 14:48:03 +0200 2009: > > It's possibly the issue that's come up on the forums: > > if you get something like: > > --- > > This is TeX, Version > > Fatal format file error; I'm stymied > > --- > > then you need to run 'updmap --all' (as the user you get this error with). > > Alternatively, you can delete the user's local texlive generated formats 'rm > > ~/.texlive/texmf-var/web2c/*.fmt' (then the system-wide generated formats > > will be used, and they do get regenerated automatically on upgrade). > > i think it's 'fmtutil --all' instead of 'updmap --all'. > you could also run 'fmtutil-sys --all' as root to recreate the > system-wide format files. Eh, of course it's fmtutil. Sorry. However the point is that 'fmtutil-sys --all' *does* get run automatically on texlive upgrade, but if the user has generated the formats themselves at some point, these formats are preferred by texlive regardless of system changes. So the user need to regenerate or delete the local format files.
Re: [arch-general] LaTeX problems ?
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 15:22, Jan Spakula wrote: > Excerpts from Piyush P Kurur's message of Mo Aug 31 14:48:03 +0200 2009: > It's possibly the issue that's come up on the forums: > if you get something like: > --- > This is TeX, Version > Fatal format file error; I'm stymied > --- > then you need to run 'updmap --all' (as the user you get this error with). > Alternatively, you can delete the user's local texlive generated formats 'rm > ~/.texlive/texmf-var/web2c/*.fmt' (then the system-wide generated formats > will be used, and they do get regenerated automatically on upgrade). i think it's 'fmtutil --all' instead of 'updmap --all'. you could also run 'fmtutil-sys --all' as root to recreate the system-wide format files. regards, chressie
Re: [arch-general] LaTeX problems ?
Excerpts from Piyush P Kurur's message of Mo Aug 31 14:48:03 +0200 2009: > complaint was that they are not in the correct format. So I guess > the following needs to be done. > > 1) Add libpoppler as a dependency to latex you are right about this. > 2) recompile libpoppler with latest gcc which ever it is. this is what I don't understand: you write "they are not in the correct format" - who is they? which program complains? It's possibly the issue that's come up on the forums: if you get something like: --- This is TeX, Version Fatal format file error; I'm stymied --- then you need to run 'updmap --all' (as the user you get this error with). Alternatively, you can delete the user's local texlive generated formats 'rm ~/.texlive/texmf-var/web2c/*.fmt' (then the system-wide generated formats will be used, and they do get regenerated automatically on upgrade).
Re: [arch-general] A little weirdness at boot time
Thomas Bächler wrote: Tom K schrieb: SImplest, most Arch-like solution is to load the modules in the required order in the rc.conf MODULES array. I hope that's what you mean by "manually". :) With the asynchronous "trigger && load MODULES=() && settle", there is no way anymore to ensure module loading order! You need to fix this using persistent naming schemes, which is easy for network interfaces. It is also easy on alsa devices (index= option) and hard drives (uuid, label symlinks). OK... guess I'll dig through arch-dev-public to find the upside to that. :P
[arch-general] LaTeX problems ?
Hi, latex which was fine till last update is having an unmet libpoppler dependency. When I tried to install libpoppler then the complaint was that they are not in the correct format. So I guess the following needs to be done. 1) Add libpoppler as a dependency to latex 2) recompile libpoppler with latest gcc which ever it is. I can file a bug report but since the server is down I will wait. Meanwhile did any one else also notice this problem ? Regards ppk
Re: [arch-general] A little weirdness at boot time
At Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:07:36 +0300, Roman Kyrylych wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 09:03, Tom K wrote: > > SImplest, most Arch-like solution is to load the modules in the required > > order in the rc.conf MODULES array. > > I believe this no longer works. MODULES are not processed in the order now. > > -- > Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич) Yes, with "manually" I meant that I put it in the MODULE arrays. It has been working for now. I'll take a look at custom udev rules later to see if it's worth the trouble.
Re: [arch-general] A little weirdness at boot time
Am Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:24:19 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler : > Tom K schrieb: > > SImplest, most Arch-like solution is to load the modules in the > > required order in the rc.conf MODULES array. > > > > I hope that's what you mean by "manually". :) > > With the asynchronous "trigger && load MODULES=() && settle", there > is no way anymore to ensure module loading order! You need to fix > this using persistent naming schemes, which is easy for network > interfaces. It is also easy on alsa devices (index= option) and hard > drives (uuid, label symlinks). But it's not that easy with evdev devices like mouse and remote control. Unfortunately flyspray is still down. But the /dev/input/eventX bug with the inconsistent device naming for the mouse and the IR remote control is back since the latest initscripts update to 2009.08-1, even if the device naming is not switching at every reboot this time. Sometimes (usually) the mouse is /dev/input/event5 and the remote control is /dev/input/event4 and sometimes it's vice versa. A device in /dev/input/by-path does only exist for the mouse, not for the remote control anymore which was inconsistent anyway because of the order in which the modules cx8800 and cx8802 were loaded. Maybe it helps if udev would be updated to 146. It would be even better if the initscripts would be reverted, so that the order in which modules are loaded can be set in the MODULES array in /etc/rc.conf. As you can see these changes in the initscripts probably make the boot process a bit faster (on fast PCs), but lead to many other serious problems (inconsistencies in ALSA modules, DVB modules, ethernet modules, etc.). And only a few modules like the ALSA modules have and index option. As I've written in flyspray, I'm not really a friend of parallel booting, because it's not really the best idea, leads to inconsistencies and makes booting slower on slow PCs. And I don't think that it's user-friendly if people have to write their own udev rules for every device to get udev consistent. And this is definitively not KISS like. Heiko
Re: [arch-general] Howto adjust font scaling in Arch? All fonts look a bit big and fat?
David C. Rankin wrote: OK, Here are the arch screenshot comparisons. NOTE - All the fonts in the arch kde control panel are set at "8pt" while the ones in the suse screenshots are set at "9pt" and the arch fonts (moost notable in the kmail folder list) loop larger than the same fonts in suse. The 9pt to 9pt comparison is huge. I haven't had time to exhaust all the suggestions yet, but I will and I'll report back. Meanwhile if anywone has any other ideas, please let me know. Thanks. (~90k) http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/bugs/kde4/font-scaling- Arch-8pt-800.jpeg (~270k) http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/bugs/kde4/font-scaling- Arch-8pt.jpeg I missed the beginning of this thread, but did you set X DPI same on both Arch and Suse? Manne
Re: [arch-general] since the fglrx legacy driver is now static - any will to make a run at getting it to work?
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 08:47, David C. Rankin wrote: > Now with the driver static, I wonder if it might not be worth looking > into to > see if it is even feasable to try and make it work with the current arch > setup. There is still a problem with kernel. As far as I remember fglrx was always slow on getting itself working on the latest kernel. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
Re: [arch-general] A little weirdness at boot time
Tom K schrieb: SImplest, most Arch-like solution is to load the modules in the required order in the rc.conf MODULES array. I hope that's what you mean by "manually". :) With the asynchronous "trigger && load MODULES=() && settle", there is no way anymore to ensure module loading order! You need to fix this using persistent naming schemes, which is easy for network interfaces. It is also easy on alsa devices (index= option) and hard drives (uuid, label symlinks). signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-general] A little weirdness at boot time
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 09:03, Tom K wrote: > SImplest, most Arch-like solution is to load the modules in the required > order in the rc.conf MODULES array. I believe this no longer works. MODULES are not processed in the order now. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
