[arch-general] Inkscape maintainer MIA?

2009-12-14 Thread Marti Raudsepp
Hi arch-general,

I'd like to point your attention to the Inkscape package: Inkscape
version 0.47 was released on November 25. This is a very significant
release that many Inkscape users have been waiting patiently.

However, the Arch Linux Inkscape maintainer, Tobias Kieslich, seems to
be missing in action. Looking at his FlySpray activity, his last
comment seems to be dated November 18.

Can anyone please look into resolving this?

Regards,
Marti


[arch-general] I know of $repo, is there a $arch too?

2009-12-14 Thread Magnus Therning
This is the second time I'm being stupid when modifying my mirrorlist
and I by accident put in a i686 repo on a 64-bit machine.  I can
report that running 32-bit sudo on a 64-bit machine is fraught with
problems :-)

So, just to work around my stupidity I was wondering if it is possible
to put something like $arch in the mirrorlist, so I can stop writing
out i686/x86_64?  That would at least take care of this problem for
the system repos.

/M

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Re: [arch-general] I know of $repo, is there a $arch too?

2009-12-14 Thread Allan McRae

Magnus Therning wrote:

This is the second time I'm being stupid when modifying my mirrorlist
and I by accident put in a i686 repo on a 64-bit machine.  I can
report that running 32-bit sudo on a 64-bit machine is fraught with
problems :-)

So, just to work around my stupidity I was wondering if it is possible
to put something like $arch in the mirrorlist, so I can stop writing
out i686/x86_64?  That would at least take care of this problem for
the system repos.



Not yet.  here will be in pacman-3.4:
http://projects.archlinux.org/pacman.git/commit/?id=65c1f06b



Re: [arch-general] I know of $repo, is there a $arch too?

2009-12-14 Thread Xavier
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote:
 Magnus Therning wrote:

 This is the second time I'm being stupid when modifying my mirrorlist
 and I by accident put in a i686 repo on a 64-bit machine.  I can
 report that running 32-bit sudo on a 64-bit machine is fraught with
 problems :-)

 So, just to work around my stupidity I was wondering if it is possible
 to put something like $arch in the mirrorlist, so I can stop writing
 out i686/x86_64?  That would at least take care of this problem for
 the system repos.


 Not yet.  here will be in pacman-3.4:
 http://projects.archlinux.org/pacman.git/commit/?id=65c1f06b



And the commit just next to it will check if the architecture of the
package you install is correct, if you set the new Architecture option
in pacman.conf .
http://projects.archlinux.org/pacman.git/commit/?id=5b27e78ba015a48baf2d3c8687fdf3084781f9c9


Re: [arch-general] I know of $repo, is there a $arch too?

2009-12-14 Thread Magnus Therning
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Xavier shinin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org wrote:
 Magnus Therning wrote:

 This is the second time I'm being stupid when modifying my mirrorlist
 and I by accident put in a i686 repo on a 64-bit machine.  I can
 report that running 32-bit sudo on a 64-bit machine is fraught with
 problems :-)

 So, just to work around my stupidity I was wondering if it is possible
 to put something like $arch in the mirrorlist, so I can stop writing
 out i686/x86_64?  That would at least take care of this problem for
 the system repos.


 Not yet.  here will be in pacman-3.4:
 http://projects.archlinux.org/pacman.git/commit/?id=65c1f06b



 And the commit just next to it will check if the architecture of the
 package you install is correct, if you set the new Architecture option
 in pacman.conf .
 http://projects.archlinux.org/pacman.git/commit/?id=5b27e78ba015a48baf2d3c8687fdf3084781f9c9

Ah, great, so that means I just might have pacman save me from my
stupidity in the future :-)

/M

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[arch-general] cpufrequtils dead or alive ?

2009-12-14 Thread Xavier
I just noticed a bump of cpufrequtils to 006-2 :
http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/cpufrequtils/

What do you do with the bugs ?
http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10959
http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/14083

Both are valid bugs, annoying, and trivial to fix ...


Re: [arch-general] Inkscape maintainer MIA?

2009-12-14 Thread Hussam Al-Tayeb
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 12:01 +0200, Marti Raudsepp wrote:
 Hi arch-general,
 
 I'd like to point your attention to the Inkscape package: Inkscape
 version 0.47 was released on November 25. This is a very significant
 release that many Inkscape users have been waiting patiently.
 
 However, the Arch Linux Inkscape maintainer, Tobias Kieslich, seems to
 be missing in action. Looking at his FlySpray activity, his last
 comment seems to be dated November 18.
 
 Can anyone please look into resolving this?
 
 Regards,
 Marti
0.47 fails to build with a poppler error :/


Re: [arch-general] Inkscape maintainer MIA?

2009-12-14 Thread Arvid Picciani

Hussam Al-Tayeb wrote:

On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 12:01 +0200, Marti Raudsepp wrote:

Hi arch-general,

I'd like to point your attention to the Inkscape package: Inkscape
version 0.47 was released on November 25. This is a very significant
release that many Inkscape users have been waiting patiently.

However, the Arch Linux Inkscape maintainer, Tobias Kieslich, seems to
be missing in action. Looking at his FlySpray activity, his last
comment seems to be dated November 18.

Can anyone please look into resolving this?

Regards,
Marti

0.47 fails to build with a poppler error :/


and more. i'd be happy if someone can magically fix it. We're waiting 
for a compiling one too.


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Re: [arch-general] Inkscape maintainer MIA?

2009-12-14 Thread Sascha Blank
Hello,

Arvid Picciani hat am Montag, den 14. Dezember 2009 um 23:13 Uhr (CET)
folgendes geschrieben:

 Hussam Al-Tayeb wrote:
  0.47 fails to build with a poppler error :/
 
 and more. i'd be happy if someone can magically fix it. We're waiting 
 for a compiling one too.

A patch to make it compile with poppler-0.12.2 is available here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/487038 (look for reply #4 on
that page).  I have checked myself that it works.

Bye.


Re: [arch-general] Inkscape maintainer MIA?

2009-12-14 Thread Sven-Hendrik Haase
On 15.12.2009 06:19, Sascha Blank wrote:
 Hello,

 Arvid Picciani hat am Montag, den 14. Dezember 2009 um 23:13 Uhr (CET)
 folgendes geschrieben:

   
 Hussam Al-Tayeb wrote:
 
 0.47 fails to build with a poppler error :/
   
 and more. i'd be happy if someone can magically fix it. We're waiting 
 for a compiling one too.
 
 A patch to make it compile with poppler-0.12.2 is available here:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/487038 (look for reply #4 on
 that page).  I have checked myself that it works.

 Bye.

   
Is an upstream bug filed on that?


Re: [arch-general] Inkscape maintainer MIA?

2009-12-14 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 06:23 +0100, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote:
 On 15.12.2009 06:19, Sascha Blank wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Arvid Picciani hat am Montag, den 14. Dezember 2009 um 23:13 Uhr (CET)
  folgendes geschrieben:
 

  Hussam Al-Tayeb wrote:
  
  0.47 fails to build with a poppler error :/

  and more. i'd be happy if someone can magically fix it. We're waiting 
  for a compiling one too.
  
  A patch to make it compile with poppler-0.12.2 is available here:
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/487038 (look for reply #4 on
  that page).  I have checked myself that it works.
 
  Bye.
 

 Is an upstream bug filed on that?

Isn't the link he posted an upstream bug? Its on launchpad and specific
to inkscape.



Re: [arch-general] Inkscape maintainer MIA?

2009-12-14 Thread Sven-Hendrik Haase
On 15.12.2009 06:28, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 06:23 +0100, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote:
   
 On 15.12.2009 06:19, Sascha Blank wrote:
 
 Hello,

 Arvid Picciani hat am Montag, den 14. Dezember 2009 um 23:13 Uhr (CET)
 folgendes geschrieben:

   
   
 Hussam Al-Tayeb wrote:
 
 
 0.47 fails to build with a poppler error :/
   
   
 and more. i'd be happy if someone can magically fix it. We're waiting 
 for a compiling one too.
 
 
 A patch to make it compile with poppler-0.12.2 is available here:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/487038 (look for reply #4 on
 that page).  I have checked myself that it works.

 Bye.

   
   
 Is an upstream bug filed on that?
 
 Isn't the link he posted an upstream bug? Its on launchpad and specific
 to inkscape.


   
Oh you are right. I was skeptical because Ubuntu people tend to put bugs
on Launchpad and only fix it in their packages but not in upstream. I
was unaware Inkscape actually used Launchpad itself.


Re: [arch-general] Inkscape maintainer MIA?

2009-12-14 Thread Allan McRae

Sascha Blank wrote:

Hello,

Arvid Picciani hat am Montag, den 14. Dezember 2009 um 23:13 Uhr (CET)
folgendes geschrieben:


Hussam Al-Tayeb wrote:

0.47 fails to build with a poppler error :/
and more. i'd be happy if someone can magically fix it. We're waiting 
for a compiling one too.


A patch to make it compile with poppler-0.12.2 is available here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/487038 (look for reply #4 on
that page).  I have checked myself that it works.



The comment two below that starts From what I can tell, that patch is 
horrendously incorrect.


I have never heard horrendously incorrect describe a good patch before...


[arch-general] New Thunderbird build 3.0-2 installs lightning by default

2009-12-14 Thread Jürgen Hagemann
The new TB update from today enables and installs lightning by default.
Bugreport: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17510?project=1pagenum=1
This is a bad idea, because some people don´t want it.
Mozilla doesn´t recommend to set the calendar flag on building...
Another point is, that the builtin calendar extension is not localized.
So, on non-english systems people have a language mix in TB...
-- 
Regards
Juergen




Re: [arch-general] New Thunderbird build 3.0-2 installs lightning by default

2009-12-14 Thread David C. Rankin

On 12/15/2009 12:37 AM, Jürgen Hagemann wrote:

The new TB update from today enables and installs lightning by default.
Bugreport: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17510?project=1pagenum=1
This is a bad idea, because some people don´t want it.
Mozilla doesn´t recommend to set the calendar flag on building...
Another point is, that the builtin calendar extension is not localized.
So, on non-english systems people have a language mix in TB...


Yep,

	Got hit with it tonight myself. Scarred the heck out of me since it picked up 
my old lightning config. The strange part is that I have had lightning 
disabled for at least a year since updating tbird to version 2.x which broke 
lightning integration. Easiest way to handle it is to go to tool - add-ons - 
extensions and 'disable' or 'remove' lightning. I just disabled it for the 
time being. That got rid of the error message:


An error was encountered preparing the calendar located at 
moz-profile-calendar:// for use. It will not be available.


Error code: 0x80004005

Description

[Exception... Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) 
[mozIStorageStatement.reset]  nsresult: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) 
location: JS frame :: 
file:///usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0/extensions/%7Be2fd4-76b-420-bd-a41df33103D/modules/calStorageUpgrade.jsm 
:: ensureUpdatedTimezones :: line 380  data: no]



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Re: [arch-general] I know of $repo, is there a $arch too?

2009-12-14 Thread David C. Rankin

On 12/14/2009 04:16 AM, Magnus Therning wrote:

This is the second time I'm being stupid when modifying my mirrorlist
and I by accident put in a i686 repo on a 64-bit machine.  I can
report that running 32-bit sudo on a 64-bit machine is fraught with
problems :-)

So, just to work around my stupidity I was wondering if it is possible
to put something like $arch in the mirrorlist, so I can stop writing
out i686/x86_64?  That would at least take care of this problem for
the system repos.

/M



Mangus,

	I feel your pain. I did the same thing not too long ago and it about drove me 
crazy before I figured out what happened. I don't know if it is plausible, but 
it would sure help protect us from ourselves if in the preinstall dependency 
checks for conflicts, etc., pacman would scan the list of packages to be 
installed and compare the architecture to the system. Then if conflicting 
package architectures were found, pacman could just dump the list saying 
something like:


The following list of packages were prepared for (i586/x86_64) architecture 
and you are prepared to install them on this system with (machine 
architecture). Do you really want to do this? (yes/no): ___


	I don't know if you can quickly get the package architecture by some other 
method than substring extraction on the file name, but that in itself is 
simple enough. Food for thought :p



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Re: [arch-general] Inkscape maintainer MIA?

2009-12-14 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 15:47 +1000, Allan McRae wrote:
 Sascha Blank wrote:
  Hello,
  
  Arvid Picciani hat am Montag, den 14. Dezember 2009 um 23:13 Uhr (CET)
  folgendes geschrieben:
  
  Hussam Al-Tayeb wrote:
  0.47 fails to build with a poppler error :/
  and more. i'd be happy if someone can magically fix it. We're waiting 
  for a compiling one too.
  
  A patch to make it compile with poppler-0.12.2 is available here:
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/487038 (look for reply #4 on
  that page).  I have checked myself that it works.
  
 
 The comment two below that starts From what I can tell, that patch is 
 horrendously incorrect.
 
 I have never heard horrendously incorrect describe a good patch before...

I suppose the patch works, but according to the commenter he says the
way it works is actually a hack which may cause problems if 'certain
spectrums' are used (going from memory).



[arch-general] speaking of Thunderbird 3.X - great new thread summary view

2009-12-14 Thread David C. Rankin

Guys,

	If any of you had done as I did and abandon thunderbird in favor of another 
mua and haven't looked at thunderbird 3.0 yet, you are in for a real treat if 
you view messages with threading. There is a new thread summary you are 
presented with when you select a collapsed thread that displays the first 3-4 
lines for each message in the thread -- and -- gives you the option to delete 
the entire thread after reviewing the summary with a single click.


	Very handy when needing to quickly pick through a long thread to find the 
relevant info:


http://www.3111skyline.com/download/ss/moz/tbird-thread-summary.jpg

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Re: [arch-general] kernel26 in [current] cries for love when new kernel version hits [testing]

2009-12-14 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 14:25 +0700, Emmanuel Benisty wrote:
 Hi,
 
 As far as I can remember i.e. quite far but also super blurry, as soon
 as a new kernel version hits [testing], the [current] version won't be
 updated anymore (it may have happened when _huge_ security issues had
 been discovered). Today, we're stuck at .31.6 when .31.8 is out. Not a
 complain as I have all the tools to build any kernel I'd like to run
 (1 machine running Arch stock kernel out of 4 anyway) but well, just
 sayin'...
 
 Cheers.

Well, I personally prefer the devs to focus on the new kernel, since it
WILL move to [core] sooner rather than later, invalidating any work done
on the earlier kernel. There's also kernel26-lts...



Re: [arch-general] speaking of Thunderbird 3.X - great new thread summary view

2009-12-14 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 01:21 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:
 Guys,
 
   If any of you had done as I did and abandon thunderbird in favor of 
 another 
 mua and haven't looked at thunderbird 3.0 yet, you are in for a real treat if 
 you view messages with threading. There is a new thread summary you are 
 presented with when you select a collapsed thread that displays the first 3-4 
 lines for each message in the thread -- and -- gives you the option to delete 
 the entire thread after reviewing the summary with a single click.
 
   Very handy when needing to quickly pick through a long thread to find 
 the 
 relevant info:
 
 http://www.3111skyline.com/download/ss/moz/tbird-thread-summary.jpg
 

Hmm, it just shows ... for me for all messages.



Re: [arch-general] speaking of Thunderbird 3.X - great new thread summary view

2009-12-14 Thread Nathan Wayde

On 15/12/09 07:40, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:


Hmm, it just shows ... for me for all messages.


top-left near the 'Subject' header, the button?/header with the icon 
that looks like a lower-case t, to the left of the star header - click it.


Re: [arch-general] kernel26 in [current] cries for love when new kernel version hits [testing]

2009-12-14 Thread Emmanuel Benisty
2009/12/15 Ng Oon-Ee ngoo...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 14:25 +0700, Emmanuel Benisty wrote:
 Hi,

 As far as I can remember i.e. quite far but also super blurry, as soon
 as a new kernel version hits [testing], the [current] version won't be
 updated anymore (it may have happened when _huge_ security issues had
 been discovered). Today, we're stuck at .31.6 when .31.8 is out. Not a
 complain as I have all the tools to build any kernel I'd like to run
 (1 machine running Arch stock kernel out of 4 anyway) but well, just
 sayin'...

 Cheers.

 Well, I personally prefer the devs to focus on the new kernel, since it
 WILL move to [core] sooner rather than later, invalidating any work done
 on the earlier kernel. There's also kernel26-lts...

I can't see anything valid here, sorry. Any work done on the earlier
kernel is a simple rebuild and ignoring updates of your most
important piece of code on your system for weeks is an issue that is
worth to be raised. If you push this to absurd reasoning then stick
with 2.6.18 as 2.6.57 will be in [current] also.

In addition, IIRC, there is no out-of-kernel-tree modules for
kernel26-lts so it's not an option for many users. Anyway, I'm talking
about updates, not about downgrading few versions of the kernel :P


Re: [arch-general] I know of $repo, is there a $arch too?

2009-12-14 Thread Allan McRae

David C. Rankin wrote:

On 12/14/2009 04:16 AM, Magnus Therning wrote:

This is the second time I'm being stupid when modifying my mirrorlist
and I by accident put in a i686 repo on a 64-bit machine.  I can
report that running 32-bit sudo on a 64-bit machine is fraught with
problems :-)

So, just to work around my stupidity I was wondering if it is possible
to put something like $arch in the mirrorlist, so I can stop writing
out i686/x86_64?  That would at least take care of this problem for
the system repos.

/M



Mangus,

I feel your pain. I did the same thing not too long ago and it about 
drove me crazy before I figured out what happened. I don't know if it is 
plausible, but it would sure help protect us from ourselves if in the 
preinstall dependency checks for conflicts, etc., pacman would scan the 
list of packages to be installed and compare the architecture to the 
system. Then if conflicting package architectures were found, pacman 
could just dump the list saying something like:


The following list of packages were prepared for (i586/x86_64) 
architecture and you are prepared to install them on this system with 
(machine architecture). Do you really want to do this? (yes/no): ___


I don't know if you can quickly get the package architecture by some 
other method than substring extraction on the file name, but that in 
itself is simple enough. Food for thought :p




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