Re: [arch-general] Last networkmanager in testing busts everything in gnome ?

2010-01-07 Thread Allan McRae

Frederic Bezies wrote:

Hello everybody.

Yesterday, my computer installed from testing last networkmanager 
version, 0.7.998-1. It worked OK until I shut down my computer.


This morning, I cannot get any single program to be launched in gnome, 
even xterm using alt+f2 dialog box.


After I downgraded to version 0.7.2-1, all was again working. I opened a 
bug : http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17743


Did anybody see the same problem or is it my computer ?



I noticed the same thing today when I upgraded...   Downgrading seems 
the current solution.


Allan



[arch-general] Last networkmanager in testing busts everything in gnome ?

2010-01-07 Thread Frederic Bezies

Hello everybody.

Yesterday, my computer installed from testing last networkmanager 
version, 0.7.998-1. It worked OK until I shut down my computer.


This morning, I cannot get any single program to be launched in gnome, 
even xterm using alt+f2 dialog box.


After I downgraded to version 0.7.2-1, all was again working. I opened a 
bug : http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17743


Did anybody see the same problem or is it my computer ?

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Re: [arch-general] Adding new partition to system from unpartitioned space - any reason to not use ext4??

2010-01-07 Thread arch
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 11:26:05AM -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:
> Guys,
> 
>   This is just a quick request to make sure I don't screw myself playing 
> with new technology. I have a server 5 existing ext3 partitions on a dmraid 
> array with several hundred gig of unpartitioned space. I have created the new 
> partition and I'm about the create the filesystem. With ext4 now available, 
> is there any reason I shouldn't go ahead and create the filesystem as ext4? 
> It will simply be another data partition to supplement /home that was created 
> rather small to begin with.
> 
>   Any thoughts or gotchas on using ext4 instead of ext3 for this??
No. There is no reason not to use ext4. It's a good all-around
filesystem. Google are in the process of moving from ext2 to ext4.

Now, give me a reason why you should listen to me?


Re: [arch-general] Adding new partition to system from unpartitioned space - any reason to not use ext4??

2010-01-07 Thread David C. Rankin
Thomas Bächler wrote:
> Delayed allocation might lead to data loss of recently created or
> overwritten files in case of power failure or system freeze. The most
> common case of overwriting files in badly written programs has been
> worked around in ext4, but theoretically it might still happen
> (witnessed by a file with size 0 after power loss or otherwise unclean
> shutdown). The same is the case for xfs or btrfs though. You can disable
> delayed allocation, but that will negate one of the performance
> improvements in ext4 compared to ext3.
> 

Thomas,

Thank you. That's exactly the type information I was looking for. Since 
this
Arch box is my home server I'll give ext4 a shot. Since this thing functions
under a light load and has about 30 minutes of battery backup I should be fine.
I'll pass along any anomalies -> hopefully you won't see any ext4 message
subjects from me later...

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Re: [arch-general] Adding new partition to system from unpartitioned space - any reason to not use ext4??

2010-01-07 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 07.01.2010 18:26, schrieb David C. Rankin:
> Guys,
> 
>   This is just a quick request to make sure I don't screw myself playing 
> with new technology. I have a server 5 existing ext3 partitions on a dmraid 
> array with several hundred gig of unpartitioned space. I have created the new 
> partition and I'm about the create the filesystem. With ext4 now available, 
> is there any reason I shouldn't go ahead and create the filesystem as ext4? 
> It will simply be another data partition to supplement /home that was created 
> rather small to begin with.
> 
>   Any thoughts or gotchas on using ext4 instead of ext3 for this??

Delayed allocation might lead to data loss of recently created or
overwritten files in case of power failure or system freeze. The most
common case of overwriting files in badly written programs has been
worked around in ext4, but theoretically it might still happen
(witnessed by a file with size 0 after power loss or otherwise unclean
shutdown). The same is the case for xfs or btrfs though. You can disable
delayed allocation, but that will negate one of the performance
improvements in ext4 compared to ext3.



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[arch-general] Adding new partition to system from unpartitioned space - any reason to not use ext4??

2010-01-07 Thread David C. Rankin
Guys,

This is just a quick request to make sure I don't screw myself playing 
with new technology. I have a server 5 existing ext3 partitions on a dmraid 
array with several hundred gig of unpartitioned space. I have created the new 
partition and I'm about the create the filesystem. With ext4 now available, is 
there any reason I shouldn't go ahead and create the filesystem as ext4? It 
will simply be another data partition to supplement /home that was created 
rather small to begin with.

Any thoughts or gotchas on using ext4 instead of ext3 for this??

-- 
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
Telephone: (936) 715-9333
Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
www.rankinlawfirm.com


Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Law Office? (Was: Re: go-openoffice not opening templates - anybody else?)

2010-01-07 Thread Vincent Van Houtte
2010/1/7 David C. Rankin 

> Believe it or not, our Federal Government has done a good job with a Linux
> backend for a good part of the CM/ECF electronic filing system for the
> Federal District Court system.


Wow - that's impressive from the viewpoint of a Belgian lawyer. We still
live in the middle ages having to print out every procedural document and
physically carry it to the court. Not even depositing the document by fax is
always allowed...

What's even more frustrating is that a large part of Belgian courts were
transferred to linux early in 2008 and one month ago it was announced they
would go back to a windows-environment. The users just couldn't adapt to
linux. If you add up to that that the project to get the Belgian justice
department somewhere in the current millennium failed after costing several
billions of Euro's, you have to conclude that our government has lost all
touch with reality/reason.

Well, just my 0.02 ounces of frustration. No need to bother you guys with
this. Thank your god you have a decent backend to work with :)

Vincent


[arch-general] Fwd: [Vorbis] vorbis-tools release soon?

2010-01-07 Thread Ray Kohler
The Xiph.org people are looking for some help getting things out the
door. I expect that there are a good many capable Ogg/Vorbis users
here in Arch-land... Anybody interested? Reply to the thread below on
vor...@xiph.org.


-- Forwarded message --
From:  
Date: 2010/1/6
Subject: Re: [Vorbis] vorbis-tools release soon?
To: Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves 
Cc: Ray Kohler , vor...@xiph.org


2010/1/4 Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves :
> On 1/4/10, Ray Kohler  wrote:
>> Since it's been almost 2 years since vorbis-tools 1.2.0 was released,
>> would it be reasonable to see 1.3.0 soon? There are plenty of changes
>> in there that deserve to see the light of day - the ReplayGain support
>> in ogg123 and the vcut fixes in particular have my attention.
>
> Tell me about it.  It's been one year since I put out an RC.  However,
> shortly after, I had to get a second job, and, well...
>
> I should be able to work on the new release after February.
>
> Oh, and here's a full changelog of everything that changed between releases:
> https://trac.xiph.org/browser/trunk/vorbis-tools/CHANGES
>
> There were so many contributions from so many people...  I hope I can
> gather all the names for a special thank you message.
>
> Anyhow, only two things are missing from the final release if memory
> serves me well:
>
> * a big patch for vorbiscomment to add padding in Vorbis files
> * fixing the gettextize stuff in oggdec since it's not working for some reason
>
> Actually, if anybody here knows how to work with gettextize properly,
> your input would be quite appreciated here.

Aside from gettext, what else is outstanding that should happen before
a release?  We've recently gotten interest from someone who wants to
get some work done on libao, I am wondering if there is some possible
work-force-multiplier available in getting releases of both moving
now.

Monty


Re: [arch-general] high CPU temperature with 2.6.32

2010-01-07 Thread David C. Rankin
Jim Clark wrote:
> Hate to state the obvious, because it was my problem. Dropped my
> laptop from 75C to 50C... cleaning the hairball out of my heatsink.
> 
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:47 AM, daniel robinson  wrote:
>> On Jan 5, 2010 7:05 AM, "Dimitrios Apostolou"  wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: > > Do you run acpi-cpufreq?
>> No I don't. In fact I don't think the CPU is able to lower its frequency.
>>
>>
>> Dimitris
>>
> 

Just make sure you take a paper-clip and open it up and put it through the fan 
grill to hold the fan stationary before you take a vacuum or shop vac to the 
air intake/exhaust. You run the risk of scattering or damaging the fan(s) if 
you just let them freewheel. After a minute or two of suctioning, you should 
see several lumps of fur on the inside of the grill which can generally be 
removed easily by rubbing across the grill with your hand, (or) using some duct 
tape to tease the fluff through, (or) in the worst case using a pair of 
tweezers and needle to pick the hairball through. And yes, it will completely 
cure the overtemp shutdowns for a year or two...


(this is theoretical of course -- not spoken from experience or anything like 
that ;-) 

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Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Law Office? (Was: Re: go-openoffice not opening templates - anybody else?)

2010-01-07 Thread David C. Rankin
Vincent Van Houtte wrote:
> 2009/12/13 Logan Rathbone 
> 
>> David, are you running (Arch) Linux in your law office?  If so, could
>> you describe your experiences?  What do you use for time and 
>> billing
>>
> 
> I'm also running an entire law office on linux. We chose Debian Linux,
> because the person who is responsible for our server and network is an
> official debian-developer.
> 
> I'm myself responsible for making a PHP-interface to all the different
> services we are running. It is my goal to have all of these working together
> in my PHP-driven intranet-site:
> - NFS for storing all our documents, templates etc. (*)
> - dovecot for our IMAP-mail (***)
> - asterisk for our telephones (*)
> - LDAP for our addressbooks (* - Read only)
> - davical for our calendars (* - Read only)
> - templating over PHP for our standardized documents (**)
> - billing and time management (***)
> 
> * = done
> ** = not completely working
> *** = planned feature
> 
> Any of the features that is not working in my PHP-driven frontend, can be
> done with standalone applications (file manager, openoffice, evolution) or
> webbased applications (contagged, roundcube webmail etc.). That's the whole
> purpose of my system: tailored to fit our needs and if it should fail, we're
> not tied to this app, because it is built around open standards.
> 
> It is a lot of work, but since a month or two it is really getting usable
> and saving us time.
> 
> We have an accountant that does all the billing for us, so I don't have any
> recommendations on that. Bambooinvoice looks good. Maybe I could give it a
> try...
> 
> HTH
> 

Thank you Vincent.

I'd be willing to wager that less than 1% of the law office 
environments run on Linux (desktop). I'm sure there are many Linux servers out 
there humming away in support of the profession, but most attorneys wouldn't 
know what the backend is anyway. Believe it or not, our Federal Government has 
done a good job with a Linux backend for a good part of the CM/ECF electronic 
filing system for the Federal District Court system. It will be very 
interesting to watch the market share Linux can garner over the next 10 years 
as not only the server infrastructure, but on the desktop as well.

One Achilles' heel has always been hardware support. Take for example 
the total FU AMD did to its Linux customers last March. I'm glad there wasn't a 
big push on for Linux acceptance at that time, because one instance like that 
during a corporate transition and it could set the effort back 5 years. Thanks 
for your info and I will be very interested to see what comes in this new 
decade... 

-- 
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
Telephone: (936) 715-9333
Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
www.rankinlawfirm.com