Re: [arch-general] 2 Killer kde4 dark themes - DR you listening??

2010-01-20 Thread Mikael Eriksson
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 09:09:28PM +0200, Dimitrios Apostolou wrote:
 And most importantly, how the /heck/ do you handle the *bright*
 *white* pages of the web... I'd tried creating a custom CSS for me,
 but it broke too many pages...

I use the BYM[0] extension for firefox. It removes image backgrounds, changes 
the
background color to black and text to grey and is easily toggled with a
icon on the statusbar.

[0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7166


Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-20 Thread Steve Holmes
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On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 05:12:31PM +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
 Probably because (in my experience at least) top-posting occurs much
 more frequently than me too posts at least, probably more frequently
 than improper quoting as well.

And yet when I see the top-posted mails, most of the time I don't need
to read the rest of the previously quoted message - especially if I'm
on a roll and am familiar with the current thread.  I guess if one is
reading for a historical perspective then it makes more sense to put
the reply at the bottom but then I found myself having to read the
history over and over again.  If I addopt bottom posting, I plan then
to delete all but the most recent post to keep thing conscise.
Actually I'm run into *MANY* of these huge long threads in a single
message to have a Mee to or +1 at the bottom  That's why I found
that style to be so inefficient and wasting of my time.

Actually when you think about it, most blogs are all in reverse
chronical order which to me is the same thing as top-posting and
nobody seems to complain about that concept.
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Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-20 Thread Marti Raudsepp
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:
 Actually when you think about it, most blogs are all in reverse
 chronical order which to me is the same thing as top-posting and
 nobody seems to complain about that concept.

Separate blog posts are typically unrelated, so there is no reason
they should be chronologically ordered.

How about blog comments? In nearly all blog publishers, they are in
chronological order.

Regards,
Marti


Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-20 Thread Johannes Held
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Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com:
 If I addopt bottom posting, I plan then to delete all but the most recent
 post to keep thing conscise.
Sure! That's the right(tm) way to do it. ;-)

 Actually I'm run into *MANY* of these huge long threads in a single
 message to have a Mee to or +1 at the bottom
Yes, that's true. It's annoying to scroll down, search for the reply and then
read a simple +1. I wish, that those emails would be cropped and simply a
+1 (perhaps with a small description) is sent. 

 Actually when you think about it, most blogs are all in reverse
 chronical order which to me is the same thing as top-posting and
 nobody seems to complain about that concept.
Meh, I see comments on a blog more a as thought of the writer instead of
discussions like here on ML.

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Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-20 Thread Damien Churchill
2010/1/20 Johannes Held m...@hehejo.de:
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 Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com:
 If I addopt bottom posting, I plan then to delete all but the most recent
 post to keep thing conscise.
 Sure! That's the right(tm) way to do it. ;-)

 Actually I'm run into *MANY* of these huge long threads in a single
 message to have a Mee to or +1 at the bottom
 Yes, that's true. It's annoying to scroll down, search for the reply and then
 read a simple +1. I wish, that those emails would be cropped and simply a
 +1 (perhaps with a small description) is sent.

 Actually when you think about it, most blogs are all in reverse
 chronical order which to me is the same thing as top-posting and
 nobody seems to complain about that concept.
 Meh, I see comments on a blog more a as thought of the writer instead of
 discussions like here on ML.


A forum thread (which displays in chronological order) is a pretty
close thing to a mailing list?


Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-20 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Marti Raudsepp ma...@juffo.org wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Actually when you think about it, most blogs are all in reverse
 chronical order which to me is the same thing as top-posting and
 nobody seems to complain about that concept.

 Separate blog posts are typically unrelated, so there is no reason
 they should be chronologically ordered.

 How about blog comments? In nearly all blog publishers, they are in
 chronological order.


I agree, one blog post + comments is more analog to one mail thread.
So I like to have the same order as in blogs : threads / blog post in
reverse order (most recent on top) , but inside each of them,
bottom-posting / chronological order.
Actually when you use a thread view, you usually get a chronological
order for all mails inside a thread. If you combine that with
top-posting, its a bit weird.


Re: [arch-general] Quoting of E-mails

2010-01-20 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Ng Oon-Ee's message of Wed Jan 20 13:08:19 +0100 2010:
 On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 04:43 -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
  On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 05:12:31PM +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
   Probably because (in my experience at least) top-posting occurs much
   more frequently than me too posts at least, probably more frequently
   than improper quoting as well.
  
  And yet when I see the top-posted mails, most of the time I don't need
  to read the rest of the previously quoted message - especially if I'm
  on a roll and am familiar with the current thread.  I guess if one is
  reading for a historical perspective then it makes more sense to put
  the reply at the bottom but then I found myself having to read the
  history over and over again.  If I addopt bottom posting, I plan then
  to delete all but the most recent post to keep thing conscise.
  Actually I'm run into *MANY* of these huge long threads in a single
  message to have a Mee to or +1 at the bottom  That's why I found
  that style to be so inefficient and wasting of my time.
 
 Honestly, I just scroll straight to the bottom, Evolution marks all the
 quoted stuff for me anyway so that the real replies stand out. With
 bottom-posting the wasted time is the amount of time taken to scroll to
 the bottom. With top posting the wasted time is having to scroll down
 for perspective. I'd wager a quick scroll is faster than having to
 scroll up and down to read and get perspective.
 
 However, in the end its more of a consensus thing. MLs generally agree
 on bottom-posting, and so top-posting in that context, whatever its
 merits, isn't good manners. Similarly bottom-posting my replies to my
 relatives hi how are you emails is very bad manners. To each their
 own.
  
  Actually when you think about it, most blogs are all in reverse
  chronical order which to me is the same thing as top-posting and
  nobody seems to complain about that concept.
 
 This is slightly off-tangent, but personally I feel blogs are less
 dependent on context, with each post standing on its own, whereas email
 threads are very context dependent as each new mail is a REPLY to the
 one before.
 
 Honestly, my ultimate solution would look very much like gmail's
 'threaded view'. Unfortunately no desktop app that I've seen manages to
 get a similar handling =(.

Have you heard of sup?
I've never used gmail but I read sup was inspired by gmail.
Well, I'm very happy with sup, bottom posting is no issue since quotes
take up one line until expanded. Often you can read the original
messages instead of the quotes due to the thread view.
You need external apps for sending and receiving, like alpine, but setup
in general seems to be much simpler.

Imho it bottom posting is the way to go, with replies to paragraphs of a
mail where it makes sense. For me personally it doesn't matter much, thanks to 
sup.
The only drawback right now is that sup is still very young, it has its
quirks. Never the less it's the best mail client I've used so far (used
only claws mail before), especially when it comes to reading and searching and I
don't regret that I switched.

Regards,
Philipp



[arch-general] claws-mail vs sup (WAS: Quoting of E-mails)

2010-01-20 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:46:41 +0100
Philipp Überbacher hollun...@lavabit.com wrote:

 The only drawback right now is that sup is still
 very young, it has its quirks. Never the less it's the best mail
 client I've used so far (used only claws mail before), especially
 when it comes to reading and searching and I don't regret that I
 switched.
 
 Regards,
 Philipp
 

i'm also using claws. the biggest thing that bothers me about it is not
enough customisation options, no event system, no easily scripting
things inside it (they are working on an events system but it supports
only 3 events now afaik, and you can spawn external scripts with
keybinds but it's hard to modify the behavior or state of claws from
external scripts).  one of the many examples: I want to be able to
change html/image viewing settings depending on sender address or open
mailbox.

any thoughts on those things re: sup and claws?

Dieter


Re: [arch-general] claws-mail vs sup (WAS: Quoting of E-mails)

2010-01-20 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan

On 01/20/2010 08:44 PM, Dieter Plaetinck wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:46:41 +0100
Philipp Überbacherhollun...@lavabit.com  wrote:


The only drawback right now is that sup is still
very young, it has its quirks. Never the less it's the best mail
client I've used so far (used only claws mail before), especially
when it comes to reading and searching and I don't regret that I
switched.

Regards,
Philipp



i'm also using claws. the biggest thing that bothers me about it is not
enough customisation options, no event system, no easily scripting
things inside it (they are working on an events system but it supports
only 3 events now afaik, and you can spawn external scripts with
keybinds but it's hard to modify the behavior or state of claws from
external scripts).  one of the many examples: I want to be able to
change html/image viewing settings depending on sender address or open
mailbox.

any thoughts on those things re: sup and claws?

Dieter


Thunderbird 3 is also good. Thunderbird by default bottom posts (it can 
be changed though).


--
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Site  Server Adminstrator
www.itech7.com


Re: [arch-general] claws-mail vs sup (WAS: Quoting of E-mails)

2010-01-20 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:01:09 +0530
Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote:

 On 01/20/2010 08:44 PM, Dieter Plaetinck wrote:
  On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:46:41 +0100
  Philipp Überbacherhollun...@lavabit.com  wrote:
 
  The only drawback right now is that sup is still
  very young, it has its quirks. Never the less it's the best mail
  client I've used so far (used only claws mail before), especially
  when it comes to reading and searching and I don't regret that I
  switched.
 
  Regards,
  Philipp
 
 
  i'm also using claws. the biggest thing that bothers me about it is
  not enough customisation options, no event system, no easily
  scripting things inside it (they are working on an events system
  but it supports only 3 events now afaik, and you can spawn external
  scripts with keybinds but it's hard to modify the behavior or state
  of claws from external scripts).  one of the many examples: I want
  to be able to change html/image viewing settings depending on
  sender address or open mailbox.
 
  any thoughts on those things re: sup and claws?
 
  Dieter
 
 Thunderbird 3 is also good. Thunderbird by default bottom posts (it
 can be changed though).
 

thunderbird doesn't offer any of the things I'm looking for (see
above), is bloat and makes a mess in its user's $HOME.

Dieter


Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.4-1 [ Possible Problems... ]

2010-01-20 Thread David C. Rankin
On 01/19/2010 04:43 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
 On 01/19/2010 12:42 AM, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
 Hi guys,
 bump to latest bugfix version.
 Please signoff both arches,

 greetings
 tpowa
 
 Can't 'sign off', but kernel26 2.6.32.4-1 seems to be working fine on x86_64
 with nvidia. I'll load it on my laptop and report back as well after testing 
 the
 radeon setup. That should be the real test.
 
 Is the recommendation no early config for the radeon module??
 

Tobias, all,

After further testing with kernel 2.6.32.4-1, I have found two bugs:

(1) the kernel upgrade kills WindowMaker
(2) the kernel upgrade kills VirtualBox

It was ironic, because I was using WindowMaker when I installed the kernel and 
then on reboot, WindowMaker attempted to start and then crashed back to the 
login screen. After the upgrade I successfully rebuilt the kernel module for vb 
with vbox_build_module, then started vbox and it hung with a small dialog 
spawning session. Let me know what information you want to see and I'll be 
happy to provide it or file a bug report. Thanks.


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Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.4-1 [ Possible Problems... ]

2010-01-20 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 10:51 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:
 On 01/19/2010 04:43 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
  On 01/19/2010 12:42 AM, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
  Hi guys,
  bump to latest bugfix version.
  Please signoff both arches,
 
  greetings
  tpowa
  
  Can't 'sign off', but kernel26 2.6.32.4-1 seems to be working fine on x86_64
  with nvidia. I'll load it on my laptop and report back as well after 
  testing the
  radeon setup. That should be the real test.
  
  Is the recommendation no early config for the radeon module??
  
 
 Tobias, all,
 
 After further testing with kernel 2.6.32.4-1, I have found two bugs:
 
 (1) the kernel upgrade kills WindowMaker
 (2) the kernel upgrade kills VirtualBox
 
 It was ironic, because I was using WindowMaker when I installed the kernel 
 and then on reboot, WindowMaker attempted to start and then crashed back to 
 the login screen. After the upgrade I successfully rebuilt the kernel module 
 for vb with vbox_build_module, then started vbox and it hung with a small 
 dialog spawning session. Let me know what information you want to see and 
 I'll be happy to provide it or file a bug report. Thanks.
 
 
I'm using kernel26-2.6.32-ice currently (its up to 2.6.32-4) and
Virtualbox PUEL worked fine just moments ago. Its 1 am here, tomorrow
I'll try with the stock kernel and see whether it doesn't work.



Re: [arch-general] 2 Killer kde4 dark themes - DR you listening??

2010-01-20 Thread David C. Rankin
On 01/20/2010 03:49 AM, Mikael Eriksson wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 09:09:28PM +0200, Dimitrios Apostolou wrote:
 And most importantly, how the /heck/ do you handle the *bright*
 *white* pages of the web... I'd tried creating a custom CSS for me,
 but it broke too many pages...
 
 I use the BYM[0] extension for firefox. It removes image backgrounds, changes 
 the
 background color to black and text to grey and is easily toggled with a
 icon on the statusbar.
 
 [0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7166
 

Now that is cool Works great too!

-- 
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Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
Telephone: (936) 715-9333
Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.4-1 [ Possible Problems... ]

2010-01-20 Thread David Rosenstrauch

On 01/20/2010 11:51 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:

It was ironic, because I was using WindowMaker when I installed the
kernel


Just a suggestion:  I usually drop down to single user (sudo telinit 
s) before I install major packages like a kernel.


DR


Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.4-1 [ Possible Problems... ]

2010-01-20 Thread Shridhar Daithankar
On Wednesday 20 January 2010 22:21:19 David C. Rankin wrote:
 On 01/19/2010 04:43 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
 After further testing with kernel 2.6.32.4-1, I have found two bugs:
 
 (1) the kernel upgrade kills WindowMaker
 (2) the kernel upgrade kills VirtualBox

even with 2.6.32.3, I had to recomile virtualbox module. I tried to start a VM 
and system froze solid and had to do hard reset. With a recompile, its working 
though.

-- 
 Shridhar


Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.4-1 [ Possible Problems... ]

2010-01-20 Thread Nathan Wayde

On 20/01/10 16:51, David C. Rankin wrote:


Tobias, all,

After further testing with kernel 2.6.32.4-1, I have found two bugs:

(1) the kernel upgrade kills WindowMaker
(2) the kernel upgrade kills VirtualBox

It was ironic, because I was using WindowMaker when I installed the kernel and then on 
reboot, WindowMaker attempted to start and then crashed back to the login screen. After 
the upgrade I successfully rebuilt the kernel module for vb with vbox_build_module, then 
started vbox and it hung with a small dialog spawning session. Let me know 
what information you want to see and I'll be happy to provide it or file a bug report. 
Thanks.




I can't comment on the WindowMaker issue but the VirtualBox, at least 
the OSE version(virtualbox-ose 3.1.2-3) released today is fixed.


Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.4-1

2010-01-20 Thread Hussam Al-Tayeb
On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 07:42 +0100, Tobias Powalowski wrote:
 Hi guys,
 bump to latest bugfix version.
 Please signoff both arches,
 
 greetings
 tpowa

Everything working perfectly as usual. 32bit kernel with nvidia kernel
module.


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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.4-1

2010-01-20 Thread A Rojas

Processes are still being randomly killed by oom-killer here even tho 
there's lots of free swap available, most of the time ksmserver which kills 
the kde session. It's been happening since updating to 2.6.32 series. The 
issue is discussed here (with patch):

http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernelm=126169821317492w=4


Tobias Powalowski wrote:

 Hi guys,
 bump to latest bugfix version.
 Please signoff both arches,
 
 greetings
 tpowa




Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.4-1 [ Possible Problems... ]

2010-01-20 Thread David C. Rankin
On 01/20/2010 11:28 AM, Shridhar Daithankar wrote:
 On Wednesday 20 January 2010 22:21:19 David C. Rankin wrote:
 On 01/19/2010 04:43 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
 After further testing with kernel 2.6.32.4-1, I have found two bugs:

 (1) the kernel upgrade kills WindowMaker
 (2) the kernel upgrade kills VirtualBox
 
 even with 2.6.32.3, I had to recomile virtualbox module. I tried to start a 
 VM 
 and system froze solid and had to do hard reset. With a recompile, its 
 working 
 though.
 

Are you talking about recompile of the vbox module, that I just did, or are you 
talking about a kernel recompile?

-- 
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Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
Telephone: (936) 715-9333
Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
www.rankinlawfirm.com


Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.4-1 [ Possible Problems... ]

2010-01-20 Thread David C. Rankin
On 01/20/2010 11:28 AM, Nathan Wayde wrote:
 On 20/01/10 16:51, David C. Rankin wrote:

 Tobias, all,

 After further testing with kernel 2.6.32.4-1, I have found two bugs:

 (1) the kernel upgrade kills WindowMaker
 (2) the kernel upgrade kills VirtualBox

 It was ironic, because I was using WindowMaker when I installed the
 kernel and then on reboot, WindowMaker attempted to start and then
 crashed back to the login screen. After the upgrade I successfully
 rebuilt the kernel module for vb with vbox_build_module, then started
 vbox and it hung with a small dialog spawning session. Let me know
 what information you want to see and I'll be happy to provide it or
 file a bug report. Thanks.


 
 I can't comment on the WindowMaker issue but the VirtualBox, at least
 the OSE version(virtualbox-ose 3.1.2-3) released today is fixed.
 

I'll check and report back. Thanks!

-- 
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
Telephone: (936) 715-9333
Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
www.rankinlawfirm.com


Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.4-1 [ Possible Problems... ]

2010-01-20 Thread Ionut Biru

On 01/20/2010 09:21 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:

On 01/20/2010 11:28 AM, Nathan Wayde wrote:

On 20/01/10 16:51, David C. Rankin wrote:


Tobias, all,

After further testing with kernel 2.6.32.4-1, I have found two bugs:

(1) the kernel upgrade kills WindowMaker
(2) the kernel upgrade kills VirtualBox

It was ironic, because I was using WindowMaker when I installed the
kernel and then on reboot, WindowMaker attempted to start and then
crashed back to the login screen. After the upgrade I successfully
rebuilt the kernel module for vb with vbox_build_module, then started
vbox and it hung with a small dialog spawning session. Let me know
what information you want to see and I'll be happy to provide it or
file a bug report. Thanks.




I can't comment on the WindowMaker issue but the VirtualBox, at least
the OSE version(virtualbox-ose 3.1.2-3) released today is fixed.



I'll check and report back. Thanks!



windowmaker still wasn't rebuilt. eventually it will, maybe i'll do it 
later.


--
Ionut


Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.4-1 [ Possible Problems... ]

2010-01-20 Thread David C. Rankin
On 01/20/2010 10:51 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
 Tobias, all,
 
 After further testing with kernel 2.6.32.4-1, I have found two bugs:
 
 (1) the kernel upgrade kills WindowMaker
 (2) the kernel upgrade kills VirtualBox
 
 It was ironic, because I was using WindowMaker when I installed the kernel 
 and then on reboot, WindowMaker attempted to start and then crashed back to 
 the login screen. After the upgrade I successfully rebuilt the kernel module 
 for vb with vbox_build_module, then started vbox and it hung with a small 
 dialog spawning session. Let me know what information you want to see and 
 I'll be happy to provide it or file a bug report. Thanks.
 
 

Add to the list of broken desktop/window managers:

(3) Enlightenment (E17) broken with latest kernel

The problem seems to be libpng and libjpg. The xsession-errors from windowmaker 
were:

[13:26 alchemy:~] # cat /home/david/.xsession-errors
wmaker: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory

I created the link to libpng like:

ln -s /usr/lib/libpng14.so.14.0.0 /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0

then on next wm start

[13:32 alchemy:~] # cat /home/david/.xsession-errors
wmaker: error while loading shared libraries: libjpeg.so.7: cannot open shared 
object file: No such file or directory

I didn't catch the E17 .xsession-errors, but I suspect it is related.


-- 
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
Telephone: (936) 715-9333
Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.4-1 [ Possible Problems... ]

2010-01-20 Thread Ionut Biru

On 01/20/2010 09:41 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:

On 01/20/2010 10:51 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:

Tobias, all,

After further testing with kernel 2.6.32.4-1, I have found two bugs:

(1) the kernel upgrade kills WindowMaker
(2) the kernel upgrade kills VirtualBox

It was ironic, because I was using WindowMaker when I installed the kernel and then on 
reboot, WindowMaker attempted to start and then crashed back to the login screen. After 
the upgrade I successfully rebuilt the kernel module for vb with vbox_build_module, then 
started vbox and it hung with a small dialog spawning session. Let me know 
what information you want to see and I'll be happy to provide it or file a bug report. 
Thanks.




Add to the list of broken desktop/window managers:

(3) Enlightenment (E17) broken with latest kernel

The problem seems to be libpng and libjpg. The xsession-errors from windowmaker 
were:

[13:26 alchemy:~] # cat /home/david/.xsession-errors
wmaker: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory

I created the link to libpng like:

ln -s /usr/lib/libpng14.so.14.0.0 /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0

then on next wm start

[13:32 alchemy:~] # cat /home/david/.xsession-errors
wmaker: error while loading shared libraries: libjpeg.so.7: cannot open shared 
object file: No such file or directory

I didn't catch the E17 .xsession-errors, but I suspect it is related.


packages for e17 wasn't rebuild. have patience or downgrade to 
extra/community and don't flood the email with useless problems.


The rebuilding process is NOT FINISHED.

--
Ionut


Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel 2.6.32.4 -1 [ Possible Problems... ]

2010-01-20 Thread Shridhar Daithankar
On Thursday 21 January 2010 00:50:22 David C. Rankin wrote:
 On 01/20/2010 11:28 AM, Shridhar Daithankar wrote:
  On Wednesday 20 January 2010 22:21:19 David C. Rankin wrote:
  On 01/19/2010 04:43 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
  After further testing with kernel 2.6.32.4-1, I have found two bugs:
 
  (1) the kernel upgrade kills WindowMaker
  (2) the kernel upgrade kills VirtualBox
 
  even with 2.6.32.3, I had to recomile virtualbox module. I tried to start
  a VM and system froze solid and had to do hard reset. With a recompile,
  its working though.
 
 Are you talking about recompile of the vbox module, that I just did, or are
  you talking about a kernel recompile?

vbox module recompile. 

It fixed the issue on 2.6.32-3 but from your post it seems, it is not 
sufficient for 2.6.32-4.

-- 
 Shridhar


Re: [arch-general] dark themes (was 2 Killer kde4 dark themes - DR you listening??) [Part Solved]

2010-01-20 Thread Edgar Kalkowski
Am oder ungefähr am Mittwoch, 20. Januar 2010, schrieb David C. Rankin:
 On 01/19/2010 01:37 PM, Arvid Picciani wrote:
 
 I stumbled into a part solution to the problem for firefox and other mozilla 
 apps. Basically there is a new type of skin you can use called user space 
 skins that use the 'stylish' addon that allows for the easy changing of the 
 titlebar (and all other aspects) of the browser window.

I also use a dark style sometimes, especially if I work at night. ;)

I found that using QtCurve it is quite easy to make all Qt and Gtk applications 
look nice and dark. For firefox I baked my own little darkening style which may 
be used with the Stylish addon (see below). It is not very fancy but makes most 
sites look quite similar to the original white look. My first problem is with 
sites like google.com who use an image with a hardcoded white background. I 
cannot get that away.

The second problem is with Java applications as they do not respect the colour 
settings of the window manager by default. However you can

$ echo 'swing.defaultlaf=com.sun.java.swing.plaf.gtk.GTKLookAndFeel'  
/opt/java/jre/lib/swing.properties

which should make all Java applications use Gtk as their default look and feel 
(and thus respect the Gtk colour settings).

Best greetings!

Edgar


snip

html {
  background-image: none !important;
}

body {
  background-image: none !important;
  background-color: #302f2f !important;
  border-color: #7fc8ff !important;
  color: #7fc8ff !important;
}

body * {
  background-color: #302f2f !important;
  border-color: #7fc8ff !important;
  color: #7fc8ff !important;
}

code {
  color: grey !important;
}

em {
  color: #00ad00 !important;
  font-weight: normal !important;
}

a:link {
  color: #3f7f5f !important;
  text-decoration: underline !important;
}

a:active {
  color: #3f7f5f !important;
  text-decoration: none !important;
}

a:visited {
  color: grey !important;
  text-decoration: underline !important;
}

a:hover {
  color: #00ad00 !important;
  text-decoration: underline !important;
}

/snip


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[arch-general] Can you rebuild an nv dmraid array in linux - or is it just gparted and copy partitions?

2010-01-20 Thread David C. Rankin
Listmates

I had a failing drive in my arch server so I installed a new one. The bios raid
'nvidia dmraid' provides the feature to 'Rebuild' the array and allows for
adding the new disk to the array. After that configuration you are prompted to
Boot to an OS that supports rebuilding.. (or something very close to that).

I image that there is some windows utility that does the rebuild on boot.
Something probably on one of the cd's that came with the motherboard.

The motherboard is an MSI K9N2 SLI Platinum (MS-7374) and has the nvidia dmraid
0/1/5/ chipset.

In the past I have always just used gparted to copy partitions from good drive
- new drive and created a new array. Based on the output of creating the array
in the bios, I'm curious if I can just rebuild does it work in linux? how?



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