Re: [arch-general] Burning From Command Line
On Sat, 2010-05-22 at 23:07 -0400, Daenyth Blank wrote: On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 22:49, Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote: What ? Is that really true ?!?!? State some link where it is officially declared by the developers. Joerg is the author of the software he recommends, so not exactly unbiased... Well, on the flip-side he wrote the software, so his word can be considered the 'official declaration'. This was discussed on this ML a couple of months back, just search Joerg's name as he was (obviously) one of the main contributors to that conversation.
Re: [arch-general] Burning From Command Line
2010/5/23 Ng Oon-Ee ngoo...@gmail.com: On Sat, 2010-05-22 at 23:07 -0400, Daenyth Blank wrote: On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 22:49, Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote: What ? Is that really true ?!?!? State some link where it is officially declared by the developers. Joerg is the author of the software he recommends, so not exactly unbiased... Well, on the flip-side he wrote the software, so his word can be considered the 'official declaration'. This was discussed on this ML a couple of months back, just search Joerg's name as he was (obviously) one of the main contributors to that conversation. Well.. the official declaration for cdrecord, not for wodim. If you want to hear the wodim side, it happens there : http://www.cdrkit.org/
Re: [arch-general] Recent telepathy-butterfly upgrade breaks MSN connection?
Well, thanks guys. I have solved this by also downgrading papyon to previous 0.4.6-1, and now MSN via telepathy-butterfly works again. Hope this issue will be solved upstream soon. Greetings On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Nathan Wayde kum...@konnichi.com wrote: On 23/05/10 04:15, Ye Li wrote: Hi guys, Anyone met problems after the recent upgrade of telepathy-butterfly? In my box most of buddies are marked *offline* although they are actually online. Even oddly, downgrade telepathy-butterfly to 0.5.9-1 cannot solve the problem. So I'm wondering if this is a problem caused by the new butterfly package? Or something wrong else(e.g. MSN server problem). Thanks sincerely. Best Regards -- Ye LI if you downgrade you need to kill the daemons? otherwise you'd prolly still be using the old version. just look for telepathy- in the running processes, either kill it or a log-out/in should get rid of them.
Re: [arch-general] Gnome - blank dialog when resuming from suspend
Hi, On Sat, 22 May 2010 00:03:39 -0400 Matthew Monaco dgbale...@verizon.net wrote: I'm having trouble finding a bug report on this but I've experienced it on 4 different computers. When I suspend (pm-utils) though System - Shut Down - Suspend (button), the shut down dialog is still on the screen and blank, when I resume. This exact bug happens to me, too. It seems that some part of GNOME hangs for a few seconds after resume, as I noticed the battery indicator and IMO network-manager too are delaying their work when resuming the machine. Any tips where to start searching the bug? Philipp
Re: [arch-general] Recent telepathy-butterfly upgrade breaks MSN connection?
On 05/23/2010 10:22 AM, Ye Li wrote: Well, thanks guys. I have solved this by also downgrading papyon to previous 0.4.6-1, and now MSN via telepathy-butterfly works again. Hope this issue will be solved upstream soon. not if you don't report it upstream. -- Ionut
Re: [arch-general] Off-topic: Good laptop to run Arch on?
Am Samstag 22 Mai 2010 schrieb Guilherme M. Nogueira: I have a Lenovo Y450 which runs arch x86_64 fine, except for a small problem with the lcd brightness control. Card reader, webcam, suspend and hdmi audio/video are ok. As subnotebook, i can recommend the acer 1810t, everything works fine, limitation is displaysize and missind dvd drive but the rest works all fine. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tp...@archlinux.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [arch-general] Burning From Command Line
On Sat, 22 May 2010 01:47:18 +0200, Isaac Dupree m...@isaac.cedarswampstudios.org wrote: On 05/21/10 04:29, Joerg Schilling wrote: Armando M. Barattiambaratti.lis...@gmail.com wrote: Arch Linux Wiki: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CD_Burning#Command-line_CD-burning (see Burning an iso image) The URL you mention gives bad advise as it encourages you to use software that is unmaintained since many years and full of bugs (wodim, genisoimage, ...). It's last updated in October 2009, and used in many distros... Wikipedia contains info and history, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cdrkit -Isaac Jörg has a point. While of course being biased about his pet cdrtools, cdrkit is not on par with cdrtools in any way. Those updates you mention more or less only consist of small fixes, no progess at all in that package. The ONLY reason cdrkit is used in many distributions is the license of cdrtools. Jörg mentions on his website that suns lawyers have analyzed the legal issues. Unfortunately there is no link to that analysis which makes this a pure claim. This doesnt change the fact that cdrtools is clearly superior to cdrkit. (Just check arch's bugtracker) Rasi
Re: [arch-general] Gnome - blank dialog when resuming from suspend
On 05/23/2010 05:16 AM, Philipp Ittershagen wrote: Hi, On Sat, 22 May 2010 00:03:39 -0400 Matthew Monacodgbale...@verizon.net wrote: I'm having trouble finding a bug report on this but I've experienced it on 4 different computers. When I suspend (pm-utils) though System - Shut Down - Suspend (button), the shut down dialog is still on the screen and blank, when I resume. This exact bug happens to me, too. It seems that some part of GNOME hangs for a few seconds after resume, as I noticed the battery indicator and IMO network-manager too are delaying their work when resuming the machine. Any tips where to start searching the bug? Philipp The problem is, if you search for blank and resume you're only going to get results about blank screens after resume.
Re: [arch-general] Gnome - blank dialog when resuming from suspend
On Sat, 2010-05-22 at 00:03 -0400, Matthew Monaco wrote: I'm having trouble finding a bug report on this but I've experienced it on 4 different computers. When I suspend (pm-utils) though System - Shut Down - Suspend (button), the shut down dialog is still on the screen and blank, when I resume. Anyone know exactly what's responsible for this? gnome-screensaver, pm-utils, gdm, ...? And if it's upstream or a distribution thing? (I think upstream). Thanks That's the shutdown / suspend dialog that gets stuck for a bit. So maybe a gnome-session problem gnome-session-save --shutdown-dialog
Re: [arch-general] Gnome - blank dialog when resuming from suspend
On 05/23/2010 02:22 PM, Hussam Al-Tayeb wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-22 at 00:03 -0400, Matthew Monaco wrote: I'm having trouble finding a bug report on this but I've experienced it on 4 different computers. When I suspend (pm-utils) though System - Shut Down - Suspend (button), the shut down dialog is still on the screen and blank, when I resume. Anyone know exactly what's responsible for this? gnome-screensaver, pm-utils, gdm, ...? And if it's upstream or a distribution thing? (I think upstream). Thanks That's the shutdown / suspend dialog that gets stuck for a bit. So maybe a gnome-session problem gnome-session-save --shutdown-dialog Thanks Hussam, that gives me some definitive search terms. I couldn't find anything in Gnome's bugzilla so I filed one: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=619451
[arch-general] A question about Arch Sixty Four
Hi all. I had a question about the sixty four bit port of Arch in general so figured this would be an okay place besides IRC to obtain any help I needed. I wanted to find out ruffly how much memory Arch sixty four will use for any program in general, regardless of GUI/console? I have an Intel 2 core dule T9600 2.80 GHZ, 4 Gb of RAM installed, with a 320 Gb hard-drive installed in my laptop. I tend to put a lot of RAM aside for virtual machines specifically. At present due to some requirements, I'm using Arch virtually on top of a Windows Seven host. I want to put this setup later on to Linux, and for now am doing fine with this virtual stuff. However I should mention that the host is 32-bit at present, and I was curious how much RAM is used in general under pure Arch 64? I would probably attempt to alocate about 3GB from the system. Anyone using virtualization and VMs heavily on any platform is aware of the RAM requirements, surely. I was just curious if I'd be making a mistake and/or if this would be possible? Thanks! Regards, --Keith Skype: skypedude1234 MSN Messenger: keithin...@hotmail.com Yahoo messenger /AIM: keithint1234
Re: [arch-general] A question about Arch Sixty Four
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Keith Hinton keithint1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. I had a question about the sixty four bit port of Arch in general so figured this would be an okay place besides IRC to obtain any help I needed. I wanted to find out ruffly how much memory Arch sixty four will use for any program in general, regardless of GUI/console? snip However I should mention that the host is 32-bit at present, and I was curious how much RAM is used in general under pure Arch 64? I would probably attempt to alocate about 3GB from the system. Anyone using virtualization and VMs heavily on any platform is aware of the RAM requirements, surely. I was just curious if I'd be making a mistake and/or if this would be possible? Thanks! Regards, --Keith Well, I'd say the difference between ram usage on lean install (base,xorg,openbox,lxde-utils) between i686 and x86_64 is kilobites. In fact, after running one install, and deciding to go with the other, there was at most maybe a 1mb difference. Its not much. (with that setup, right after boot would weigh in 99mb ram used :)) As long as you keep the base system lean, 1gb is tons of free memory to play with. Hell, I have Gnome/Compiz and a ton of firefox tabs running, and only 1gb ram installed, and 380mb ram still free (cached... but free) Also, I think the benefit of being able to run x86_64 guests would outweigh any penalty you'd be paying in larger address space. Gary
Re: [arch-general] A question about Arch Sixty Four
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Keith Hinton keithint1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. I had a question about the sixty four bit port of Arch in general so figured this would be an okay place besides IRC to obtain any help I needed. I wanted to find out ruffly how much memory Arch sixty four will use for any program in general, regardless of GUI/console? i really don't think there is a way to answer this. i'm not an expert on hardware, but 64bit applies to the CPU, nothing else. a larger bottom level cache allows the CPU to view/consume more data/bits at once, and to perform better on precision mathematics like heavy floating point operations. i don't see it having much-to-any effect on RAM usage, but again maybe i'm missing something and then someone will surely correct me :-) I have an Intel 2 core dule T9600 2.80 GHZ, 4 Gb of RAM installed, with a 320 Gb hard-drive installed in my laptop. plenty I tend to put a lot of RAM aside for virtual machines specifically. At present due to some requirements, I'm using Arch virtually on top of a Windows Seven host. I want to put this setup later on to Linux, and for now am doing fine with this virtual stuff. However I should mention that the host is 32-bit at present, and I was curious how much RAM is used in general under pure Arch 64? again don't worry about the differences. 64 bit means you don't have to deal with address space limits/etc its the way to go. I would probably attempt to alocate about 3GB from the system. Anyone using virtualization and VMs heavily on any platform is aware of the RAM requirements, surely. I was just curious if I'd be making a mistake and/or if this would be possible? do it. Thanks! Regards, --Keith C Anthony
