Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] inkscape finding a maintainer

2010-08-31 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2010-08-31 01:32:21 -0400] Loui Chang:
 On Mon 30 Aug 2010 19:24 +0200, Gaetan Bisson wrote:
  [2010-08-30 19:54:44 +0300] Ionuț Bîru:
   Does anyone in our dev team uses inkscape like a daily bases and
   wants to maintain it?
  
  I use it about once a week or so; if you want inkscape to stay in
  [extra] I could maintain it. Now if Laurent wants it, I'm also happy to
  have it go to [community].
 
 Hey... Did we gain some new developers that went unannounced?

Indeed, I don't think we've been introduced. :)

I'm a junior dev, mentored by Allan.

-- 
Gaetan


Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] kernel26-lts 2.6.32.21-1

2010-08-31 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Am Montag 30 August 2010 schrieb Andreas Radke:
 Am Fri, 27 Aug 2010 21:03:05 +0200
 
 schrieb Tobias Powalowski t.p...@gmx.de:
  Latest kernel is in testing,
  please signoff for both arches.
  
  greetings
  tpowa
 
 signoff x86_64
 
 -Andy
anyone i686?

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Re: [arch-general] [PATCH 21/48] Both rc.single and rc.shutdown use the same code to kill everything.

2010-08-31 Thread Kurt J. Bosch

2010-07-02 11:27, Thomas Bächler:

First of all, sorry for not continuing the review yesterday, time is
short :(

Still, I'll finish this, as I'd like to have this applied eventually.

Am 02.07.2010 11:21, schrieb Kurt J. Bosch:

Am 2010-06-30 23:47, schrieb Victor Lowther:

Move that shared code into functions.
+run_hook single_prekillall


This line should be  run_hook ${0##*/rc.}_prekillall  IMHO


Kurt is right here. We call this code from rc.single and rc.shutdown I
think. We use two distinct hooks, you can register functions for these
hooks independently!



Hmm, git bashification-redux has now:

kill_everything() {
# $1 = where we are being called from.
# This is used to determine which hooks to run.
# Find daemons NOT in the DAEMONS array. Shut these down first
for daemon in /var/run/daemons/*; do
[[ -f $daemon ]] || continue
daemon=${daemon##*/}
in_array $daemon ${daemo...@]} || stop_daemon $daemon
done

# Shutdown daemons in reverse order
for ((i=${#daemo...@]}-1; i=0; i--)); do
[[ ${DAEMONS[$i]:0:1} = '!' ]]  continue
ck_daemon ${daemons[$...@} || stop_daemon ${daemons[$...@}
done

# Terminate all processes
stat_busy Sending SIGTERM To Processes
run_hook $1_prekillall
/sbin/killall5 -15  /dev/null
/bin/sleep 5
stat_done

stat_busy Sending SIGKILL To Processes
/sbin/killall5 -9  /dev/null
/bin/sleep 1
stat_done

run_hook $1_postkillall
}

I suggest:

From b202be97f8dc1c0c68aaea792d4457c674c673f3 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Kurt J. Bosch kjb-temp-2...@alpenjodel.de
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 09:57:47 +0200
Subject: [PATCH 17/17] Correct behaviour of kill_everything()

---
 functions |   11 +--
 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)

diff --git a/functions b/functions
index b9ba718..3ca7324 100644
--- a/functions
+++ b/functions
@@ -205,10 +205,9 @@ ck_status() {
 kill_everything() {
 # $1 = where we are being called from.
 # This is used to determine which hooks to run.
-# Find daemons NOT in the DAEMONS array. Shut these down first
-for daemon in /var/run/daemons/*; do
-[[ -f $daemon ]] || continue
-daemon=${daemon##*/}
+# Find daemons NOT in the DAEMONS array.
+# Shut these down first in reverse order.
+for daemon in $( /bin/ls -t /var/run/daemons ); do
in_array $daemon ${daemo...@]} || stop_daemon $daemon
 done

@@ -220,7 +219,7 @@ kill_everything() {

# Terminate all processes
 stat_busy Sending SIGTERM To Processes
-run_hook $1_prekillall
+run_hook ${1}_prekillall
 /sbin/killall5 -15  /dev/null
 /bin/sleep 5
 stat_done
@@ -230,7 +229,7 @@ kill_everything() {
 /bin/sleep 1
 stat_done

-run_hook $1_postkillall
+run_hook ${1}_postkillall
 }

 activate_vgs() {
--
1.7.0.3



[arch-general] cannot run pacman in different operating system

2010-08-31 Thread Łukasz Nowak
Hello Dear Archians,

I need to install arch from existing operating system.

This is Mandriva 2010.0 64 bit:

uname -a
Linux luker500 2.6.33.5-server-2mnb #1 SMP Thu Jun 17 21:11:54 UTC
2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

I am using (and contributing to):
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Install_From_Existing_Linux

Let me show you which steps I have done so far:

$ ARCH=`uname -m`
$ echo $ARCH
x86_64
$ pwd
/home/luke/archtest
$ wget -q http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/$ARCH/pacman/download/
http://mirrors.kernel.org/archlinux/core/os/x86_64/pacman-mirrorlist-20100825-1-any.pkg.tar.gz
http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/$ARCH/libfetch/download/
http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/$ARCH/libarchive/download/
http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/$ARCH/openssl/download/
http://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/$ARCH/xz/download/
$ ls
libarchive-2.8.4-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
openssl-1.0.0.a-3-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
pacman-mirrorlist-20100825-1-any.pkg.tar.gz
libfetch-2.33-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz pacman-3.4.0-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
xz-4.999.9beta-5-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz
$ for f in *.tar.gz ; do tar xzf $f ; done
$ export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/luke/archtest/usr/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
$ echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH
/home/luke/archtest/usr/lib:
$ ls -d /home/luke/archtest/usr/lib
/home/luke/archtest/usr/lib/
$ export PATH=/home/luke/archtest/usr/bin:$PATH
$ which pacman
/home/luke/archtest/usr/bin/pacman

So now it is time to try to run pacman:

$ pacman --help
-bash: /home/luke/archtest/usr/bin/pacman: No such file or directory

I checked, this file really exists:

$ file /home/luke/archtest/usr/bin/pacman
/home/luke/archtest/usr/bin/pacman: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64,
version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux
2.6.18, stripped

But I cannot even do ldd:

$ ldd /home/luke/archtest/usr/bin/pacman
/usr/bin/ldd: line 119: /home/luke/archtest/usr/bin/pacman: No such
file or directory

So additionally I checked strace output:

$ strace /home/luke/archtest/usr/bin/pacman
execve(/home/luke/archtest/usr/bin/pacman,
[/home/luke/archtest/usr/bin/pacm...], [/* 78 vars */]) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
dup(2)  = 3
fcntl(3, F_GETFL)   = 0x8002 (flags O_RDWR|O_LARGEFILE)
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0620, st_rdev=makedev(136, 33), ...}) = 0
mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1,
0) = 0x7f3180b61000
lseek(3, 0, SEEK_CUR)   = -1 ESPIPE (Illegal seek)
write(3, strace: exec: No such file or di..., 40strace: exec: No
such file or directory
) = 40
close(3)= 0
munmap(0x7f3180b61000, 4096)= 0
exit_group(1)   = ?

And now I am really stuck. Is it related to my configuration or glibc
incompatibility?

What more information you need to track this issue? What shall I try,
maybe compiling pacman from source?

Regards,
Luke


Re: [arch-general] cannot run pacman in different operating system

2010-08-31 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 31.08.2010 11:49, schrieb Łukasz Nowak:
 So now it is time to try to run pacman:
 
 $ pacman --help
 -bash: /home/luke/archtest/usr/bin/pacman: No such file or directory

Arch binaries assume the dynamic linker to be in
/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, while most (all?) other distributions assume
it to be in /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2:

$ readelf -a $(which pacman) | grep interpreter
  [Requesting program interpreter: /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2]
$ readelf -a /some/mandriva/binary | grep interpreter
  [Requesting program interpreter: /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2]

The No such file or directory is very misleading here, as the file
that it is trying to open is the program interpreter, not pacman itself.

A symlink should suffice:
# ln -s /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 /lib/

This problem does not exist on i686: The dynamic linker is
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 here, on Arch or on any distribution out there.



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Re: [arch-general] cannot run pacman in different operating system

2010-08-31 Thread Łukasz Nowak
Hello,

2010/8/31 Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org:
 Am 31.08.2010 11:49, schrieb Łukasz Nowak:
 So now it is time to try to run pacman:

 $ pacman --help
 -bash: /home/luke/archtest/usr/bin/pacman: No such file or directory

 Arch binaries assume the dynamic linker to be in
 /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, while most (all?) other distributions assume
 it to be in /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2:

 $ readelf -a $(which pacman) | grep interpreter
      [Requesting program interpreter: /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2]
 $ readelf -a /some/mandriva/binary | grep interpreter
      [Requesting program interpreter: /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2]

 The No such file or directory is very misleading here, as the file
 that it is trying to open is the program interpreter, not pacman itself.

 A symlink should suffice:
 # ln -s /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 /lib/

 This problem does not exist on i686: The dynamic linker is
 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 here, on Arch or on any distribution out there.

Ach, thank you. I will update the page. You are right:

$ ls /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
$ ls /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
ls: cannot access /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: No such file or directory

Regards,
Luke

PS. In meantime I just compiled pacman :)

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] The Great Python Rebuild of 2010 begins

2010-08-31 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 13:31:16 -0500, Christopher Brannon
cmbranno...@gmail.com wrote:
 Any updates regarding the creation of a [community-staging] repository?
 
 +1.  Most of my packages are rebuilt; I'm just waiting to push.
 
 -- Chris

I could add it to dbscripts and devtools easily; but some admin of
sigurd needs to create the dir and adjust the rsync to gerolde.

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Re: [arch-general] [PATCH 21/48] Both rc.single and rc.shutdown use the same code to kill everything.

2010-08-31 Thread Dave Reisner
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:07:52AM +0200, Kurt J. Bosch wrote:
 --snip--
 
 I suggest:
 
 From b202be97f8dc1c0c68aaea792d4457c674c673f3 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
 From: Kurt J. Bosch kjb-temp-2...@alpenjodel.de
 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 09:57:47 +0200
 Subject: [PATCH 17/17] Correct behaviour of kill_everything()
 
 ---
  functions |   11 +--
  1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
 
 diff --git a/functions b/functions
 index b9ba718..3ca7324 100644
 --- a/functions
 +++ b/functions
 @@ -205,10 +205,9 @@ ck_status() {
  kill_everything() {
  # $1 = where we are being called from.
  # This is used to determine which hooks to run.
 -# Find daemons NOT in the DAEMONS array. Shut these down first
 -for daemon in /var/run/daemons/*; do
 -[[ -f $daemon ]] || continue
 -daemon=${daemon##*/}
 +# Find daemons NOT in the DAEMONS array.
 +# Shut these down first in reverse order.
 +for daemon in $( /bin/ls -t /var/run/daemons ); do
   in_array $daemon ${daemo...@]} || stop_daemon $daemon
  done
 
 @@ -220,7 +219,7 @@ kill_everything() {
 
   # Terminate all processes
  stat_busy Sending SIGTERM To Processes
 -run_hook $1_prekillall
 +run_hook ${1}_prekillall
  /sbin/killall5 -15  /dev/null
  /bin/sleep 5
  stat_done
 @@ -230,7 +229,7 @@ kill_everything() {
  /bin/sleep 1
  stat_done
 
 -run_hook $1_postkillall
 +run_hook ${1}_postkillall
  }
 
  activate_vgs() {
 -- 
 1.7.0.3
 

Parsing the output of ls will never be better than using shell globbing
no matter how much simpler it might make the code appear to be. Not only
are you avoiding a fork, but the shell glob will properly handle any odd
characters thrown into the mix. You'll see breakage on something as
simple as a space in your suggestion. While I'm inclined to believe that
there will never be a space in the name of a daemon in Arch, if we're
going for pure Bash in this rewrite, let's use Bash instead of
mindlessly forking.

The only useful change here is to remove the line:

  [[ -f $daemon ]] || continue

and instead call 'shopt -s nullglob' outside the loop. Sorry for the
no-patch patch.

d


Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] inkscape finding a maintainer

2010-08-31 Thread Angel Velásquez
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Gaetan Bisson bis...@archlinux.org wrote:
 [2010-08-31 01:32:21 -0400] Loui Chang:
 On Mon 30 Aug 2010 19:24 +0200, Gaetan Bisson wrote:
  [2010-08-30 19:54:44 +0300] Ionuț Bîru:
   Does anyone in our dev team uses inkscape like a daily bases and
   wants to maintain it?
 
  I use it about once a week or so; if you want inkscape to stay in
  [extra] I could maintain it. Now if Laurent wants it, I'm also happy to
  have it go to [community].

 Hey... Did we gain some new developers that went unannounced?

 Indeed, I don't think we've been introduced. :)

 I'm a junior dev, mentored by Allan.

 --
 Gaetan


Yep, we should do an announcement, I will do a try (if my english
skills let me)

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] inkscape finding a maintainer

2010-08-31 Thread Stefan Husmann
Am 31.08.2010 14:47, schrieb Angel Velásquez:
 On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Gaetan Bisson bis...@archlinux.org wrote:
 [2010-08-31 01:32:21 -0400] Loui Chang:
 On Mon 30 Aug 2010 19:24 +0200, Gaetan Bisson wrote:
 [2010-08-30 19:54:44 +0300] Ionuț Bîru:
 Does anyone in our dev team uses inkscape like a daily bases and
 wants to maintain it?

 I use it about once a week or so; if you want inkscape to stay in
 [extra] I could maintain it. Now if Laurent wants it, I'm also happy to
 have it go to [community].

 Hey... Did we gain some new developers that went unannounced?

 Indeed, I don't think we've been introduced. :)

 I'm a junior dev, mentored by Allan.

 --
 Gaetan

 
 Yep, we should do an announcement, I will do a try (if my english
 skills let me)
 

Hello,

why not doing so for new TUs, too? I mean, for instance in the forums? 

Regards Stefan


Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] inkscape finding a maintainer

2010-08-31 Thread Ionuț Bîru

On 08/31/2010 06:14 PM, Stefan Husmann wrote:

Am 31.08.2010 14:47, schrieb Angel Velásquez:

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Gaetan Bissonbis...@archlinux.org  wrote:

[2010-08-31 01:32:21 -0400] Loui Chang:

On Mon 30 Aug 2010 19:24 +0200, Gaetan Bisson wrote:

[2010-08-30 19:54:44 +0300] Ionuț Bîru:

Does anyone in our dev team uses inkscape like a daily bases and
wants to maintain it?


I use it about once a week or so; if you want inkscape to stay in
[extra] I could maintain it. Now if Laurent wants it, I'm also happy to
have it go to [community].


Hey... Did we gain some new developers that went unannounced?


Indeed, I don't think we've been introduced. :)

I'm a junior dev, mentored by Allan.

--
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Yep, we should do an announcement, I will do a try (if my english
skills let me)



Hello,

why not doing so for new TUs, too? I mean, for instance in the forums?

Regards Stefan


i agree that we should do some announcements. In the past we had the 
newsletter.


Feel free to compile such news and i'll post it in the news section. 
Wait for all applications to finish


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[arch-general] kde 4.5.1 ati/intel workarounds

2010-08-31 Thread Caleb Cushing
Does anyone know if the workarounds are still needed or if that was a
fixed bug? I read the changelog but was unable to discern whether or
not these were on the list of fixed kwin bugs.

-- 
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http://xenoterracide.com


[arch-general] HAL .fdi files stopped working

2010-08-31 Thread Linus Eklöf
After an upgrade in the beginning of summer (don't remember what was
updated) my hal fdi files in /etc/hal/fdi/policy stopped working, I had to
change the keyboard mapping in the xfce settings and haven't been able to
use my joypad since. I can't find anything on it with google and I've
upgraded my system a couple of times since, but it still isn't working.
Anybody who knows what might cause this?


Re: [arch-general] HAL .fdi files stopped working

2010-08-31 Thread Ionuț Bîru

On 09/01/2010 12:19 AM, Linus Eklöf wrote:

After an upgrade in the beginning of summer (don't remember what was
updated) my hal fdi files in /etc/hal/fdi/policy stopped working, I had to
change the keyboard mapping in the xfce settings and haven't been able to
use my joypad since. I can't find anything on it with google and I've
upgraded my system a couple of times since, but it still isn't working.
Anybody who knows what might cause this?


because hal is not used by xorg anymore since long time ago.

http://www.archlinux.org/news/502/

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Re: [arch-general] HAL .fdi files stopped working

2010-08-31 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 31.08.2010 23:20, schrieb Ionuț Bîru:
 On 09/01/2010 12:19 AM, Linus Eklöf wrote:
 After an upgrade in the beginning of summer (don't remember what was
 updated) my hal fdi files in /etc/hal/fdi/policy stopped working, I
 had to
 change the keyboard mapping in the xfce settings and haven't been able to
 use my joypad since. I can't find anything on it with google and I've
 upgraded my system a couple of times since, but it still isn't working.
 Anybody who knows what might cause this?
 
 because hal is not used by xorg anymore since long time ago.
 
 http://www.archlinux.org/news/502/

I wonder why we write news announcements about these things. People
don't seem to read them and ask anyway, so why bother writing the news?



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Re: [arch-general] HAL .fdi files stopped working

2010-08-31 Thread Sven-Hendrik Haase
 On 31.08.2010 23:31, Thomas Bächler wrote:
 Am 31.08.2010 23:20, schrieb Ionuț Bîru:
 On 09/01/2010 12:19 AM, Linus Eklöf wrote:
 After an upgrade in the beginning of summer (don't remember what was
 updated) my hal fdi files in /etc/hal/fdi/policy stopped working, I
 had to
 change the keyboard mapping in the xfce settings and haven't been able to
 use my joypad since. I can't find anything on it with google and I've
 upgraded my system a couple of times since, but it still isn't working.
 Anybody who knows what might cause this?
 because hal is not used by xorg anymore since long time ago.

 http://www.archlinux.org/news/502/
 I wonder why we write news announcements about these things. People
 don't seem to read them and ask anyway, so why bother writing the news?

Because those that *do* read them don't ask questions like these.


Re: [arch-general] HAL .fdi files stopped working

2010-08-31 Thread Guilherme M. Nogueira
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote:

  http://www.archlinux.org/news/502/

 I wonder why we write news announcements about these things. People
 don't seem to read them and ask anyway, so why bother writing the news?

Because some of us read them and it's better to assume the community
is capable of evolving.


Re: [arch-general] HAL .fdi files stopped working

2010-08-31 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 18:39 -0300, Guilherme M. Nogueira wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote:
 
   http://www.archlinux.org/news/502/
 
  I wonder why we write news announcements about these things. People
  don't seem to read them and ask anyway, so why bother writing the news?
 
 Because some of us read them and it's better to assume the community
 is capable of evolving.

+1, some read them, that's why we only have these few emails rather than
dozens of emails.

To be fair, those who infrequently update are more likely to miss
announcements. Perhaps they shouldn't be using rolling release in that
case.



Re: [arch-general] HAL .fdi files stopped working

2010-08-31 Thread C Anthony Risinger
2010/8/31 Ng Oon-Ee ngoo...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 18:39 -0300, Guilherme M. Nogueira wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote:
 
   http://www.archlinux.org/news/502/
 
  I wonder why we write news announcements about these things. People
  don't seem to read them and ask anyway, so why bother writing the news?

 Because some of us read them and it's better to assume the community
 is capable of evolving.

 +1, some read them, that's why we only have these few emails rather than
 dozens of emails.

 To be fair, those who infrequently update are more likely to miss
 announcements. Perhaps they shouldn't be using rolling release in that
 case.

i always liked the idea of including any relevant announcements
directly into pacman output, possibly bundling announcements right
into packages themselves, and displaying the ones created between old
ver - new ver.  its just text, and not many; it would compress well.

while i rarely have problems, and when i do i'm adept enough to
usually get it myself or find the answer, i am certainly guilty of not
going to the website to read announcements (there is a ML for that
tho, right?).  in fact i don't think i ever have :-X, but most people,
i would think, do at least look at pacman output.

i'm not an advocate of noobification features, but a feature of this
type would be useful for anyone.  system state management is a hot
topic for me, and this is one of the things on my list for my own
manager i'm working on (i don't like any package managers that exist,
i want a DVCS at it's heart :-)

C Anthony


Re: [arch-general] kde 4.5.1 ati/intel workarounds

2010-08-31 Thread Ray Rashif
On 1 September 2010 04:48, Caleb Cushing xenoterrac...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone know if the workarounds are still needed or if that was a
 fixed bug? I read the changelog but was unable to discern whether or
 not these were on the list of fixed kwin bugs.

Still needed; has not been confirmed to be fixed:

Fix regression which caused desktop effects not working with some
drivers. Fixes bug 243991. See SVN commit 1167908. [1]

very likely. there's a massive amount of similar problem reports (freezes -
press shift+alt+f12 - or fragmented screes depending on the resolution, latter
one just like this on your particular GPU, see the other two dupes and bug
#241402, while it's not clear that latter one is really related) [2]

I just did a commit, but I do not know if it fixed it. I have to properly
investigate the issue but currently I am lacking the time. If I get a patch
before the release I will send a notice to the release team. [3]

[1] http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_5_0to4_5_1.php
[2] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=243991
[3] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=241402


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Re: [arch-general] kde 4.5.1 ati/intel workarounds

2010-08-31 Thread Denis A . Altoé Falqueto
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Ray Rashif schivmeis...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 1 September 2010 04:48, Caleb Cushing xenoterrac...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone know if the workarounds are still needed or if that was a
 fixed bug? I read the changelog but was unable to discern whether or
 not these were on the list of fixed kwin bugs.

 Still needed; has not been confirmed to be fixed:

I'm on an intel GM965 and it works fine in 4.5.1. The compositing is
enabled after login and the velocity is bearable, although moving
windows is slower than with 4.5.0. I have blur effect on.

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Q: Why is top posting so bad?
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Re: [arch-general] kde 4.5.1 ati/intel workarounds

2010-08-31 Thread Martín Cigorraga
Try this Denis:

[...@paradise ~]$ cat /usr/share/autostart/plasma-desktop.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Exec=plasma-desktop --graphicssystem raster

Also you can add --graphicssystem raster to all KDE apps to boost
performance, specially Yakuake if you use it.
This hack should work with KWin composite feature enabled.

-Martín


Un buen antivirus, no debería dejar cargar Windows y sugerir instalar
GNU/Linux xD - omar...@#parabola@freenode


Re: [arch-general] HAL .fdi files stopped working

2010-08-31 Thread Isaac Dupree

On 08/31/10 17:31, Thomas Bächler wrote:

I wonder why we write news announcements about these things. People
don't seem to read them and ask anyway, so why bother writing the news?


How about because I read and therefore ask less, and same for several 
other people?  And am informed ahead-of-time what is likely to break -- 
an irreplaceable service.  Also the news means that when people *do* 
ask, you can answer with a one-line link to the news instead of 
explaining it again.  Seems like a most efficient system.  (Not that 
questions about things that were recently in the news are a good thing!)


-Isaac


Re: [arch-general] kde 4.5.1 ati/intel workarounds

2010-08-31 Thread Denis A . Altoé Falqueto
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Martín Cigorraga
martosurf7...@gmail.com wrote:
 Try this Denis:

 [...@paradise ~]$ cat /usr/share/autostart/plasma-desktop.desktop
 [Desktop Entry]
 Exec=plasma-desktop --graphicssystem raster

 Also you can add --graphicssystem raster to all KDE apps to boost
 performance, specially Yakuake if you use it.
 This hack should work with KWin composite feature enabled.

Well, composite didn't work with raster graphics system. But the old
one is fine. I'll continue looking for other options too. Thanks for
the hint!

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A: Because it obfuscates the reading.
Q: Why is top posting so bad?

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Re: [arch-general] kde 4.5.1 ati/intel workarounds

2010-08-31 Thread Denis A . Altoé Falqueto
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto
denisfalqu...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Martín Cigorraga
 martosurf7...@gmail.com wrote:
 Try this Denis:

 [...@paradise ~]$ cat /usr/share/autostart/plasma-desktop.desktop
 [Desktop Entry]
 Exec=plasma-desktop --graphicssystem raster

 Also you can add --graphicssystem raster to all KDE apps to boost
 performance, specially Yakuake if you use it.
 This hack should work with KWin composite feature enabled.

 Well, composite didn't work with raster graphics system. But the old
 one is fine. I'll continue looking for other options too. Thanks for
 the hint!

In fact, the vsync option was re-enabled. After I turned it off, the
performance was restored to the levels of 4.5.0. I think It could be
better, but it is fine now.

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A: Because it obfuscates the reading.
Q: Why is top posting so bad?

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[arch-general] Hard disc clicks

2010-08-31 Thread Rafael Beraldo
Recently I got preoccupied with the hard disc clicking sounds I have been
hearing since I installed Arch Linux on my Asus 1201N.

Anyway, I remembered that there was an issue that could dramatically reduce
the life of the hard disc, then I looked up on Google and found this article
[1]. I ran smartctl -A and noticed that each time I heard a click, one was
added to Load_Cycle_Count. Then I ran hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda, but the Arch
Wiki [2] says that it is best to set a smaller value, like 128, if you move
your laptop a lot.

The thing is, 128 keeps the hard disc spinning down a lot. In fact, 254 is
quite noiseless, but as from 253 the clicking sound returns. I read this bug
page [3] but found nothing new. It is worth remembering that, sometimes,
when I'm watching a movie or TV show with mplayer, it stops for less than I
second, then I hear the disc spinning faster and the video continues.

So, how did you guys set the power manager with hdparm in your laptops? Does
anybody else have this problem? Since I move my netbook often, should I set
it to 128 even if it spins down more than four times a minute?

Than you all.

[1] http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_hard_drive_clicking
[2] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Laptop#Hard_drive_spin_down_problem
[3] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pm-utils/+bug/361680

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http://cabaladada.org