Re: [arch-general] kernel26-2.6.35.4-2 - Hey! No more hang on boot on module load -- cool.
What problems where you experiencing? Im having similar issues. On 18 September 2010 04:10, David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com wrote: Guys, Just dropping a line to let you know that I haven't had a hang-on-boot with kernel26-2.6.35.4-2. That's great. I'll keep you posted, but it looks like the issues with the last few kernels are much better. Thanks! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
[arch-general] How to detect when a package is removed from a group in pacman
Hi, recently bin86 was removed from base-devel group but the unique way I know to see this change is manually reading the pkg changelog in the arch site. The problem is simple, how to detect this change in pacman? For example, after a gnome upgrade, if a new package is added to gnome group I can do: pacman -S --needed gnome to install the missing package. But if a package is removed? How can I remove this package that doesn't belong to a group anymore? I hope you understand the question. Why not add metapackages (as for kde) for base, base-devel, gnome and gnome-extra that doesn't have this problem?
Re: [arch-general] 'Local mirror' page was removed from wiki
On 17-09-10 09:34, Stefan Erik Wilkens wrote: Well then the situation is rather simple, isn't it. If the amount of traffic a private local mirror generates for the official mirror is greater than the amount of traffic that any local clients (excluding any other purposes unrelated to the sync process of course) generate for this local mirror, then obviously something is very wrong. This should be fairly easy to determine and fairly easy to attack (sync less frequently, increase the amount of clients syncing from your local server or perhaps give up the local mirror completely). Stefan, i think you'd better read the post you responded to. It looks like Nathan's local mirror is actually an official mirror... If i understood correctly, he was just being curious what was supposed to be wrong with the mentioned script. ;) mvg, Guus
Re: [arch-general] 'Local mirror' page was removed from wiki
2010/9/18 Guus Snijders gsnijd...@gmail.com: On 17-09-10 09:34, Stefan Erik Wilkens wrote: Well then the situation is rather simple, isn't it. If the amount of traffic a private local mirror generates for the official mirror is greater than the amount of traffic that any local clients (excluding any other purposes unrelated to the sync process of course) generate for this local mirror, then obviously something is very wrong. This should be fairly easy to determine and fairly easy to attack (sync less frequently, increase the amount of clients syncing from your local server or perhaps give up the local mirror completely). Stefan, i think you'd better read the post you responded to. It looks like Nathan's local mirror is actually an official mirror... If i understood correctly, he was just being curious what was supposed to be wrong with the mentioned script. ;) mvg, Guus Guus, I checked the current mirrorlist before replying, correct me if I'm wrong but I can't find any entry relating to the domain Nathan included in his mailing, nor is he listed as a tier1 on the developer's wiki. Maybe I've missed something painfully obvious here? -Stefan -- msn: stefan_wilk...@hotmail.com e-mail: stefanwilk...@gmail.com blog: http://www.stefanwilkens.eu/ adres: Lipperkerkstraat 14 7511 DA Enschede
Re: [arch-general] kernel26-2.6.35.4-2 - Hey! No more hang on boot on module load -- cool.
On 09/18/2010 10:47 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: What problems where you experiencing? Im having similar issues. Chris, I have had a number of lock-on-boot issues with the past few kernels on both my laptop and test server. The information is scatters over a several month period of time on the list and in closed bug FS#20200. But basically, after updating to the 2.6.34-x kernels through 2.6.35-2, my boxes would lock when the 'module load' would take place stopping the output at Setting up UTF-8 Mode on the screen. (I think module load is the next step) Further, it was incredibly frustrating because if I rebuilt mkinitcpio the box would boot the '1st' time after the initramfs build, but then hang on every boot thereafter (apparently some additional config takes place on 1st boot that would cause hangs on all subsequent boots). That got better with 2.6.35-(1 or 2) or so, but then the usbhid-ups driver would cause the boot to hang for 120 sec until the timeout occurred and then boot would continue but usb would be dead (no USB mouse, no usb ups interface). The frustrating thing here was it only happened ~ 50% of the time. No config changes and ... sometimes usb would be find ... other times it would hang, timeout and fail. So far with 2.6.35-4-2 all seems to be working. I don't know the technical reasons behind the failures, but you can look at the following threads for more info: [arch-general] kernel26-2.6.34.1 - won't boot - stuck at Setting up UTF-8 mode [Downgrade to kernel26-2.6.34-2 OK] July 11, 2010 [arch-general] kernel26 2.6.34.2-1 ALSO hardlocks my box on boot?? Aug. 3, 2010 (semi-related) [arch-general] Update to 2.6.34.3-1 LTS 2.6.32.18-1 killed dmraid box?? Aug. 16, 2010 [arch-general] 2.6.35.4-1 still hangs waiting on udev with usbhid errors Sept. 1, 2010 HTH -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
Re: [arch-general] 'Local mirror' page was removed from wiki
2010/9/18 Stefan Erik Wilkens stefanwilk...@gmail.com: 2010/9/18 Guus Snijders gsnijd...@gmail.com: On 17-09-10 09:34, Stefan Erik Wilkens wrote: Well then the situation is rather simple, isn't it. If the amount of traffic a private local mirror generates for the official mirror is greater than the amount of traffic that any local clients (excluding any other purposes unrelated to the sync process of course) generate for this local mirror, then obviously something is very wrong. This should be fairly easy to determine and fairly easy to attack (sync less frequently, increase the amount of clients syncing from your local server or perhaps give up the local mirror completely). Stefan, i think you'd better read the post you responded to. It looks like Nathan's local mirror is actually an official mirror... If i understood correctly, he was just being curious what was supposed to be wrong with the mentioned script. ;) I checked the current mirrorlist before replying, correct me if I'm wrong but I can't find any entry relating to the domain Nathan included in his mailing, nor is he listed as a tier1 on the developer's wiki. Maybe I've missed something painfully obvious here? yes i think he is specifically asking what was _technically_ wrong with the aforementioned script from the wiki. which seems an appropriate question, given the circumstances of removal; if the only reason was to discourage the creation of local mirrors... well, to me at least, that seems a poor reason. i sympathize with some of the reasons for creating localized mirrors. in particular, when the mirror is located on a removable device it is especially useful... i did this to perform off-site installations, in addition to installing packages i needed when a connection wasn't available (ie. Nathan's train example) could a script be created that simply spreads the load to _all_ the official mirrors? the DB files could be pulled from archlinux.org, but the packages could be retrieved from all mirrors in parallel... or what is the core problem here? C Anthony
Re: [arch-general] 'Local mirror' page was removed from wiki
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 02:50:17PM -0500, C Anthony Risinger wrote: which seems an appropriate question, given the circumstances of removal; if the only reason was to discourage the creation of local mirrors... well, to me at least, that seems a poor reason. i sympathize with some of the reasons for creating localized mirrors. in particular, when the mirror is located on a removable device it is especially useful... i did this to perform off-site installations, in addition to installing packages i needed when a connection wasn't available (ie. Nathan's train example) I'd agree. I have to maintain 7 and soon 11 machines which do not have have any internet access at all. In the past I've been able to get away with taking them home for installation/updates, but that will not be possible anymore. So what is the solution for this if you can't have a local mirror on a portable device ? Ciao, -- FA There are three of them, and Alleline.
Re: [arch-general] 'Local mirror' page was removed from wiki
On Sat, 2010-09-18 at 14:50 -0500, C Anthony Risinger wrote: could a script be created that simply spreads the load to _all_ the official mirrors? the DB files could be pulled from archlinux.org, but the packages could be retrieved from all mirrors in parallel... Archlinux.org is just another mirror, not the 'primary' mirror, I believe.
Re: [arch-general] Adobe Releases New 64-bit Flash Plugin For Linux
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Like I've written on the arch-multilib mailing list I'd prefer to having flashplugin in [multilib] renamed to lib32-flashplugin or bin32-flashplugin and the new 64 bit version added to [extra] as flashplugin at least if the new 64 bit version is stable and secure enough. ++ the general consensus was to leave 64-bit flash in... when adobe cancelled it for a bit... I don't know why it ever got removed. I've had problems recently with flash and I suspect it's due to running a 32-bit version. -- Caleb Cushing http://xenoterracide.com
Re: [arch-general] 'Local mirror' page was removed from wiki
On 09/18/2010 05:44 PM, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 02:50:17PM -0500, C Anthony Risinger wrote: which seems an appropriate question, given the circumstances of removal; if the only reason was to discourage the creation of local mirrors... well, to me at least, that seems a poor reason. i sympathize with some of the reasons for creating localized mirrors. in particular, when the mirror is located on a removable device it is especially useful... i did this to perform off-site installations, in addition to installing packages i needed when a connection wasn't available (ie. Nathan's train example) I'd agree. I have to maintain 7 and soon 11 machines which do not have have any internet access at all. In the past I've been able to get away with taking them home for installation/updates, but that will not be possible anymore. So what is the solution for this if you can't have a local mirror on a portable device ? Ciao, There is nothing preventing you from creating a local mirror. If you can't figure out how to create a local mirror using the resource available, you probably shouldn't be using arch.
