Re: [arch-general] How do AUR packages get new maintainers?
On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 22:41 -0500, Myra Nelson wrote: One would hope this is enough to end the BS, it's getting tiring. Myra Nelson Did you just compare the service of highly-paid lawyers and doctors with voluntary time on the Arch ML? =) My observation is that most of the responses so far are based on the poster's history rather than the particular question asked, rightly or wrongly.
Re: [arch-general] Old news
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 15:34, Dan McGee dpmc...@gmail.com wrote: The URLs for all news items changed, so your news feed probably saw this and thought the items were new. I'm not sure why Django uses the URL as a guid, but this should be a one-time occurrance. In my experience this is a regular one-time occurrence ;) Arch-announce resends old announcements with some regularity, though it's worth noting that I've never received the same mail more than twice. /M -- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus identi.ca|twitter: magthe
Re: [arch-general] How do AUR packages get new maintainers?
2010/9/23 Ng Oon-Ee ngoo...@gmail.com On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 22:41 -0500, Myra Nelson wrote: One would hope this is enough to end the BS, it's getting tiring. Myra Nelson Did you just compare the service of highly-paid lawyers and doctors with voluntary time on the Arch ML? =) My observation is that most of the responses so far are based on the poster's history rather than the particular question asked, rightly or wrongly. No, I was comparing the expertise. I consider this list to be populated with individuals with a lot of expertise in the field of programming. That is what makes it worth reading daily. Also the wiki is excellent and being improved all the time. I mention the wiki due to the tremendous improvement in that area over the last 3 or 4 years. In the past I've had wiki pages I had to study for several hours and work through more than two or three times to get it right. However, after 10 knock downs, I think it gets a little long winded and tiresome to keep at it. Eventually it serves no purpose and in some cases leads to extraneous side tracks (ie wiki pages removed most recently) that don't serve the overall discussion; IMHO. My other point was, it might be simpler to point out where this information can be found without the really dudes's and who are you's etc. Part of the problem, from both sides is a culture clash, one that's hard to reconcile and too long to debate here and now. My view comes from having the opinion that if I training you to do something and I have to tell you more than twice how to do it, I don't need you. Somewhere along the line I discovered not all people could grasp what I said the way I said it. I knew what I was doing and how it should be done, training logging engineers in the oilfield, and just couldn't understand why no one could get it. It's friggin easy. Might it be worthwhile to link to ESR's How to ask questions the smart way or link to it in a wiki page. At some point the discussions seem to become bikeshed. I would like to thank you for the courteous reply. Myra -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!
Re: [arch-general] Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wants to become the next person after U.S. Senator Ernie Chambers to sue God
Name is filtered from now; skip inbox, send to trash. Hurray!
Re: [arch-general] Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wants to become the next person after U.S. Senator Ernie Chambers to sue God
what is your native language? Maybe in that way you can understand that this kind of messages are not welcomed in here. For the 99 time, we don't care and stop spaming us with your bullshit ideas -- Ionuț
Re: [arch-general] Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wants to become the next person after U.S. Senator Ernie Chambers to sue God
I don't know how mailinglist apps work, but can't we put some spam filtering to it and black list his namw or is there alredysome filtered?
Re: [arch-general] Intel GMA 3150 Graphics Card driver
thank you. if I max the glxgears window, it only ouput like below: *118 frames in 5.0 seconds = 23.560 FPS* *137 frames in 5.0 seconds = 27.220 FPS* *139 frames in 5.0 seconds = 27.691 FPS* *139 frames in 5.0 seconds = 27.730 FPS* I attach my *xorg.conf* and */var/log/Xorg.0.log*, may be you can help me resolving this problem. 2010/9/22 Cédric Girard girard.ced...@gmail.com On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Adamzyg adam...@gmail.com wrote: Did any one use Netbook and the CPU is Intel NM450 which embeded Graphics Card GMA 3150? I install the XF86-video-intel driver package by pacman, *$ pacman -Ss xf86-video* | grep intel* *extra/xf86-video-intel 2.12.0-1 (xorg-video-drivers) [installed]* but the glxgears just output like below: *$ glxgears * *635 frames in 5.0 seconds = 126.856 FPS* *663 frames in 5.0 seconds = 132.454 FPS* *516 frames in 5.0 seconds = 103.154 FPS* So some game like supertux2 can't play, and mplayer can't play by vo gl/gl2. I need some help... Some information: $ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Pineview DMI Bridge 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Pineview Integrated Graphics Controller 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Pineview Integrated Graphics Controller 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) ... $ modprobe -l | grep intel ... kernel/arch/x86/kvm/kvm-intel.ko kernel/drivers/idle/intel_idle.ko kernel/drivers/char/hw_random/intel-rng.ko kernel/drivers/char/agp/intel-agp.ko kernel/drivers/platform/x86/intel_menlow.ko ... $ modprobe -l | grep i915 kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915.ko Best Regards. What about /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? The figures you get with glxgears are high. It does not seem like something is wrong. -- Cédric Girard
Re: [arch-general] Old news
On 09/23/2010 07:08 AM, Magnus Therning wrote: In my experience this is a regular one-time occurrence ;) Now that just made me grin :p -- Mauro Santos
Re: [arch-general] Old news
Excerpts from Magnus Therning's message of 2010-09-23 08:08:29 +0200: Arch-announce resends old announcements with some regularity, though it's worth noting that I've never received the same mail more than twice. And that part made me grin :)
Re: [arch-general] Intel GMA 3150 Graphics Card driver
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Adamzyg adam...@gmail.com wrote: thank you. if I max the glxgears window, it only ouput like below: *118 frames in 5.0 seconds = 23.560 FPS* *137 frames in 5.0 seconds = 27.220 FPS* *139 frames in 5.0 seconds = 27.691 FPS* *139 frames in 5.0 seconds = 27.730 FPS* I attach my *xorg.conf* and */var/log/Xorg.0.log*, may be you can help me resolving this problem. 2010/9/22 Cédric Girard girard.ced...@gmail.com On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Adamzyg adam...@gmail.com wrote: Did any one use Netbook and the CPU is Intel NM450 which embeded Graphics Card GMA 3150? I install the XF86-video-intel driver package by pacman, *$ pacman -Ss xf86-video* | grep intel* *extra/xf86-video-intel 2.12.0-1 (xorg-video-drivers) [installed]* but the glxgears just output like below: *$ glxgears * *635 frames in 5.0 seconds = 126.856 FPS* *663 frames in 5.0 seconds = 132.454 FPS* *516 frames in 5.0 seconds = 103.154 FPS* So some game like supertux2 can't play, and mplayer can't play by vo gl/gl2. I need some help... Some information: $ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Pineview DMI Bridge 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Pineview Integrated Graphics Controller 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Pineview Integrated Graphics Controller 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) ... $ modprobe -l | grep intel ... kernel/arch/x86/kvm/kvm-intel.ko kernel/drivers/idle/intel_idle.ko kernel/drivers/char/hw_random/intel-rng.ko kernel/drivers/char/agp/intel-agp.ko kernel/drivers/platform/x86/intel_menlow.ko ... $ modprobe -l | grep i915 kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915.ko Best Regards. What about /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? The figures you get with glxgears are high. It does not seem like something is wrong. -- Cédric Girard You cannot attach things to the list. Use something like pastebin and give the link. -- Cédric Girard
Re: [arch-general] Intel GMA 3150 Graphics Card driver
2010/9/23 Cédric Girard girard.ced...@gmail.com: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Adamzyg adam...@gmail.com wrote: thank you. if I max the glxgears window, it only ouput like below: *118 frames in 5.0 seconds = 23.560 FPS* *137 frames in 5.0 seconds = 27.220 FPS* *139 frames in 5.0 seconds = 27.691 FPS* *139 frames in 5.0 seconds = 27.730 FPS* I attach my *xorg.conf* and */var/log/Xorg.0.log*, may be you can help me resolving this problem. 2010/9/22 Cédric Girard girard.ced...@gmail.com On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Adamzyg adam...@gmail.com wrote: Did any one use Netbook and the CPU is Intel NM450 which embeded Graphics Card GMA 3150? I install the XF86-video-intel driver package by pacman, *$ pacman -Ss xf86-video* | grep intel* *extra/xf86-video-intel 2.12.0-1 (xorg-video-drivers) [installed]* but the glxgears just output like below: *$ glxgears * *635 frames in 5.0 seconds = 126.856 FPS* *663 frames in 5.0 seconds = 132.454 FPS* *516 frames in 5.0 seconds = 103.154 FPS* So some game like supertux2 can't play, and mplayer can't play by vo gl/gl2. I need some help... Some information: $ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Pineview DMI Bridge 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Pineview Integrated Graphics Controller 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Pineview Integrated Graphics Controller 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) ... $ modprobe -l | grep intel ... kernel/arch/x86/kvm/kvm-intel.ko kernel/drivers/idle/intel_idle.ko kernel/drivers/char/hw_random/intel-rng.ko kernel/drivers/char/agp/intel-agp.ko kernel/drivers/platform/x86/intel_menlow.ko ... $ modprobe -l | grep i915 kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915.ko Best Regards. What about /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? The figures you get with glxgears are high. It does not seem like something is wrong. -- Cédric Girard You cannot attach things to the list. Use something like pastebin and give the link. -- Cédric Girard Hello, Just for you to know, glxgears doesn't seem to be relevant for this: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Benchmarking#glxgears_.28and_why_not_to_use_this_as_a_benchmark.29 -- Guillaume
Re: [arch-general] Local Mirror - Wiki Article
On 14:01 Wed 22 Sep , Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
On 09/22/2010 01:20 PM, Fess wrote:
On 09:18 Tue 21 Sep , Matthew Gyurgyik wrote:
Since the other thread is huge and hard to follow, I am creating a new
thread.
I would like to use this thread to talk strictly about the Local Mirror
wiki article.
I have updated the wiki article to reflect the new pool directory.
Currently there are some packages that are in pool/ while others are still
in {$repo}/os/${arch}. Those in pool have symlinks to {$repo}/os/${arch}
From my understanding, eventually, all packages will be in pool/
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Local_Mirror
I am hoping someone who runs a Local Mirror can try this out. I do not
have a need for a local mirror nor do I want to pull Gigs of data from a
mirror to test this. However, I have done dry runs on the rsync command.
@Devs: Maybe someone can update the Mirror Section in the NewMirrors wiki
article
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:NewMirrors#Mirror_size
Thank you for recovering this page.
The page was *not* recovered. It was updated with new, correct information.
Who gives a fuck? It's here now, so people may use it. Good work.
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Re: [arch-general] Intel GMA 3150 Graphics Card driver
On 09/23/2010 08:56 AM, Guillaume ALAUX wrote: 2010/9/23 Cédric Girardgirard.ced...@gmail.com: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Adamzygadam...@gmail.com wrote: thank you. if I max the glxgears window, it only ouput like below: *118 frames in 5.0 seconds = 23.560 FPS* *137 frames in 5.0 seconds = 27.220 FPS* *139 frames in 5.0 seconds = 27.691 FPS* *139 frames in 5.0 seconds = 27.730 FPS* I attach my *xorg.conf* and */var/log/Xorg.0.log*, may be you can help me resolving this problem. 2010/9/22 Cédric Girardgirard.ced...@gmail.com On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Adamzygadam...@gmail.com wrote: Did any one use Netbook and the CPU is Intel NM450 which embeded Graphics Card GMA 3150? I install the XF86-video-intel driver package by pacman, *$ pacman -Ss xf86-video* | grep intel* *extra/xf86-video-intel 2.12.0-1 (xorg-video-drivers) [installed]* but the glxgears just output like below: *$ glxgears * *635 frames in 5.0 seconds = 126.856 FPS* *663 frames in 5.0 seconds = 132.454 FPS* *516 frames in 5.0 seconds = 103.154 FPS* So some game like supertux2 can't play, and mplayer can't play by vo gl/gl2. I need some help... Some information: $ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Pineview DMI Bridge 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Pineview Integrated Graphics Controller 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Pineview Integrated Graphics Controller 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) ... $ modprobe -l | grep intel ... kernel/arch/x86/kvm/kvm-intel.ko kernel/drivers/idle/intel_idle.ko kernel/drivers/char/hw_random/intel-rng.ko kernel/drivers/char/agp/intel-agp.ko kernel/drivers/platform/x86/intel_menlow.ko ... $ modprobe -l | grep i915 kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915.ko Best Regards. What about /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? The figures you get with glxgears are high. It does not seem like something is wrong. -- Cédric Girard You cannot attach things to the list. Use something like pastebin and give the link. -- Cédric Girard Hello, Just for you to know, glxgears doesn't seem to be relevant for this: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Benchmarking#glxgears_.28and_why_not_to_use_this_as_a_benchmark.29 -- Guillaume Well, I think the FPS should be about equal to his refresh rate. But the test with ~30 fps might be a concern
Re: [arch-general] BTRFS, a good choice for /?
No more experienced btrfs people here? @shridhar, from your btrfs experience, it seems it's worth a try, waiting for more positive feedbacks. -- Regards, Nilesh Govindarajan Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/nilesh.gr Twitter: http://twitter.com/nileshgr Website: http://www.itech7.com VPS Hosting: http://www.itech7.com/a/vps
Re: [arch-general] BTRFS, a good choice for /?
I too have been using btrfs for nearly 9 months (to be precise since 18.1) as my home and var partition that are on one partition in differed sub-volumes. I have never had any problems whit it, I don't really know anythin about its speed compared to ext4 or some other filesystem, but its working fast enough for me.
Re: [arch-general] How do AUR packages get new maintainers?
David C. Rankin drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com writes: If there is somewhere to turn for help when I run into build issues I can't solve, then I wouldn't mind picking up a couple of packages so they can be kept current. What nobody needs when trying to help is to be lambasted for not being able to solve those types of problems -- I sure don't need it. If you are interested in an orphaned package, just adopt it. If you encounter some insurmountable obstacle, and you cannot get help, then disown it. AUR package maintainership is a very weak commitment, as commitments go. In other words, you aren't married to your AUR packages. -- Chris
Re: [arch-general] BTRFS, a good choice for /?
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote: No more experienced btrfs people here? @shridhar, from your btrfs experience, it seems it's worth a try, waiting for more positive feedbacks. ive had it as / on my laptop since .31 without issue. my fiance has it as / on her netbook/ssd for about 6mo, also without issue (and it is very performant) not really doing anything fancy, ssd mount opt on the netbook, and noatime on both. i also have a server using raid1 + btrfs / since about .32, without issue. C Anthony
Re: [arch-general] BTRFS, a good choice for /?
On 23 September 2010 11:17, Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote: No more experienced btrfs people here? @shridhar, from your btrfs experience, it seems it's worth a try, waiting for more positive feedbacks. I've been running it / (SSD), /home, and /var since the beginning of the summer on my new computer. In that time I've had 2 unclean shutdowns (power outages), and haven't seen corruption, so the lack of fsck isn't unbearable.
Re: [arch-general] BTRFS, a good choice for /?
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Tavian Barnes taviana...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 September 2010 11:17, Nilesh Govindarajan li...@itech7.com wrote: No more experienced btrfs people here? @shridhar, from your btrfs experience, it seems it's worth a try, waiting for more positive feedbacks. I've been running it / (SSD), /home, and /var since the beginning of the summer on my new computer. In that time I've had 2 unclean shutdowns (power outages), and haven't seen corruption, so the lack of fsck isn't unbearable. ah yes i forgot to mention that; i've unlcean shutdown both my laptop and netbook more times than i can count... no issues. from the btrfs list, most people seem to have problems with unclean power down only when other layers/indirection are involved, like dm-crypt, etc. C Anthony
Re: [arch-general] BTRFS, a good choice for /?
On 09/23/2010 12:11 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: ah yes i forgot to mention that; i've unlcean shutdown both my laptop and netbook more times than i can count... no issues. from the btrfs list, most people seem to have problems with unclean power down only when other layers/indirection are involved, like dm-crypt, etc. This is not surprising. ZFS can also have problems when put on top of some other system. These filesystems are made to be on the bare drives and generally to provide their own raid/lvm interface (though btrfs doesn't yet have a full raid implementation like zraid on ZFS). I have been running ZFS on an SSD with /, and an HD with subvolumes for /var, /tmp, /etc and /usr without any problems. Quite fond of subvolumes too, it seems like a good way to break up and even limit a directory's space without having to create a ton of separate partitions. The issues seem to be related to a few usage scenarios, and will of course continue to get better with every kernel release.
